asciilifeform: the paralytic gold confiscator was very much the undertaker of the earlier (carnegie, rockefeller, et al - producing) culture.
asciilifeform: fdr centralized , e.g., academia, created the familiar grantola trough, magicked modern fiatola into existence. quite definitively the builder of usg4.
asciilifeform: i picked it up because afaik it is quite accurate. the 4 stages are quite distinguishable .
asciilifeform: that -- yes, as dead as roman republic.
asciilifeform: oppenheimer could have easily been a saharov. but instead he was stripped of his rank and given a swift kick in the arse when he took up with the left.
asciilifeform: these folx never got a podium on which to pour shit over entire american system, say, and 'dissident'ate, and gleefully preside over disassembly of usg
asciilifeform: they, unfortunately, did not have a competent set of puppeteers, and a nobel-dispensing 'international komyoonity', to put theirs on proper podium
asciilifeform: there was an earlier case, more familiar to asciilifeform : saharov
asciilifeform: 'If the North Koreans hesitate to open fire, for obvious reasons of national survival and common sense, there is a back-up team of shooters, namely the Maritime Self-Defense Force of Japan. A volley of Mitsubishi anti-ship missiles should do the job of sinking the U.S. Seventh Fleet and drowning the American sailors. The news media will assign the blame on Pyongyang for the dastardly deed.'
asciilifeform: i'd imagine at this point in the neverending 20th c. it'd be obvious at least to literate folx, that this type of 'power grab' is about as great an idea as grabbing live hv cable .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly ~now~ you can picture why asciilifeform's picture of conway switched , at that time, from 'hmm, but vlsi!' to 'i wonder where conway stole the credit for vlsi'
asciilifeform: it was in my head, but eclipsed by reality, lol
asciilifeform: the house in the background doesn't look like a telco tho, no bars on 2nd story windows
asciilifeform: for whom parking spot is always reserved at telco stations.
asciilifeform: iirc it is at&t euphemism for usg bugwagens ,
asciilifeform: the immense difficulty of 'human' getting small qty. of just about anything that doesn't live in lolmart, is why i piss on people who piss on 'ebay' etc.
asciilifeform: or, for instance, PET/PETE plastic (as in 'soda' bottle) is a pretty good one
asciilifeform: (why ? i have nfi. maybe americans never learned how to grow it..? srsly? 19th c. process )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: many lulzy finds. for instance, anthracene ( from coal ) is still the all-time champ. BUT you can't buy it in proper crystal, other than su-manufactured on 'ebay' !