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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But you wear a Cardinal's College!
mircea_popescu: let me put it this way : the fact that we don't have a proper money market is much more the problem of "the community" than the problem of the misfortunate whoever that ran bitbet. whether he was a scammer or not, as a factual matter, as an idealised, theoretical construct the observation stands. ☟︎
asciilifeform: well i dun wear a pope hat.
mircea_popescu: sure. but this is a conclusion that requires analysis above the pay grade to make.
asciilifeform: nevertheless i am free to consider a hypothesis that could be ruled out if he had not moved it.
asciilifeform: but if i pick up a stray burst of radio static from bbet that suggests he lotteries, this will be part of my risk assessment.
asciilifeform: dunno, i see 0 difference b/w a bbet that shitfinexes customer coin and that derp who put his customers' into canadian lottery.
mircea_popescu: anyway, don't misunderstand the "not to make money" bit, it's in my case a coincidence not a virtue. go, make money, absolutely no shame in it. a lot of shame in luchamos juntos blablala, so there's that.
mircea_popescu: it's not a complaint ; it's a statement of fact, made at a time it's required to be made to protect the business environment from public insanity.
mircea_popescu: it wasn't a significant sum - think, i threw away 1k btc to humiliate buffett, i threw away 5 fucking btc for stuff like the contest that produced "shall be delivered" ; etc. moreover, to correctly account for it would have likely cost more.
a111: Logged on 2016-03-14 16:33 phf: nubbins`: it's a shame that you chose this approach for your denouncement. some people are here (myself, maybe ascii) not to make money, but to fuck around with novel ways of doing things. it would've been nifty if, as a "lord" if you will, you picked up the game and made your accusations formal, maybe solicited a judge from the wot, made it interesting somehow! you don't have to obviously, but the approach that you chose was basic and
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to quote a wise man, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-14#1432299 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i think i am altogether a bad influence.
mircea_popescu: lmao such a slippery one she is.
mircea_popescu: a then you can tell me what you think of the local cut.
mircea_popescu: are you a kobe fan covertress ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform whether he will pay with balls, wife, or a cute poem, is mp\s problem ; but you're to expect you will be paid.
asciilifeform: but i do expect that if a phriend of mircea_popescu borrows his moneyz, and goes to gamble with it, and loses all, he will be made to pay with balls
mircea_popescu: covertress aite, i'll buy you a steak. you ever had a proper steak ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is another problem of the prev discussed "bitbet" theme - without a proper cash market and cash insurance, it's pretty fucking hard to get it going.
covertress: I would like to propose a visit then, during my return leg from Shanghai.
mircea_popescu: understand - just because i'm the king and queen and can afford to leave whatever untold bitcoin fortunes lay fallow in whatever addresses for yeasrs at a time - does not give you the right to expect or demand such.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is fungible. you hold a claim to a sum, not to any sort of otherwise specifiable coins.
mircea_popescu: covertress i've been in contact with a lively, nicely titted waitress. i think this makes it 1-0 for me.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-12#1519996 << this is altogether unclear. this "the people have the right to trace the coins" is a) still nonsense, bitcoin is not traceable ; b) still nonsense, forget the "dao" bullshit ; c) still nonsense, you trust the operator or you don't trust the operator. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: strausskahn was a people?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i meant people, not rando "i crawled out of a woman at some point"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-12#1519966 << morel ike a teaser. i'm teased alright. ☝︎
asciilifeform: go a preachin'
mircea_popescu: at least you probably can get a proper foot massage.
mircea_popescu: because they refuse to conceptualize that the us is a rogue state, why.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: aha. just recalled that i read a bio or two of streicher after your mention of him in the logs recently.
pete_dushenski read comics section religiously as a child
mircea_popescu: lol nice story though, guy worth 1/4bn is going to bother with 15k piddly us dollahs. this is almost as good as "we found a street hooker who's willing to swear she was a hotel maid and the european central bank prresident did vague things to her. honest!"
asciilifeform: i saw, in delaware recently, a cannonball stuck in wall, since 1814, from it.
mircea_popescu: re danielpbarron 's thing : yes, the texts do not support the reading of leviathan as demon. it is beast ; a sort of cow, or hippo or what have you.
pete_dushenski: kim was harped on for being hairy ? this is nooz to me. i thought she just got sassed for being, as chappelle would say, a nigger-lover.
mircea_popescu: kinda why the clinton ticket is such nonsense to anyone not-a-pleb. the one thing obvious is things can't continue - how to let steam out, where etc are debatable, but her utterly mccain-ish notion of "all is well" smacks of such senile delusion as can scarcely be put into words.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah, but not mockable News Roundup (TM)(R) marginal either. Next move prolly has a place.
asciilifeform: lel bbet implosion is quite a nyooz
shinohai: I haven't found *a single thing* to qntra this week
mircea_popescu: by and large if you wanted to start a cunt you pretty much had to have her mother spread her out for you.
mircea_popescu: majority catholic - fucking burgundy, which is now somehow inexplicably a country - owns it.
mircea_popescu: cunt is a major transaction medium, in point of fact ; seeing how sexual competition is the driver of economic move.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-12#1519869 << the latter part you can see in my doomed efforts to get to a fucking club in buenos aires. exact same fucking mechanisms. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: a readily visible, central reason why goldbugs per se are so intellectually laughable.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-12 19:46 asciilifeform: but it is not clear, at least to me, that debased currency is a ~cause~ rather than ~symptom~ of cultural decay.
pete_dushenski: vancouver is a prime example of this macro manoeuvre. recently announced 15% tax on foreign (read: chinese) buyers to boot.
asciilifeform: well sorta like how a fire forces being black, dead, sooty, and smelling of cooked meat.
mircea_popescu: after the very sad experinece of japanese re speculation in new york, this is a reasonable manoeuver, macro speakling.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski a guy by that name was active back in 2011-2012 ; he made some corrections to mpex faq verbiage ; we've not kept in touch hence nor have i heard anything of him for a few years.
asciilifeform: IF it was a close friend, who stiffed you, you MAY choose to write off the debt, forgive him.
pete_dushenski: eh. i'm a curious feller. sue me.
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: qntra still has a place, even when news breaks in channel.
asciilifeform: 'i put escrowed coin on a winblowz box' == scamming.
danielpbarron: lol i can't even load the b-a logs. I guess i'm blacklisted
pete_dushenski: anyways, i'm a bit hesitant to throw the 'scammer' label at znort, but there's definitely some fishy smells about.
asciilifeform: and - about what could such a conversation conceivably 'go on' ?
pete_dushenski: contravex seems like a better spot for the emails, qntra can pick it up after as nyooz
gribble: Error: "!" is not a valid command.
pete_dushenski: well other than emails from znort requesting a bailout loan from ol' petey, sure.
pete_dushenski: no one else in my l1 has rated znort, so mp is my only tether here, and a seemingly tenuous one at that.
asciilifeform: because if not, answer is a fat and obvious 0.
asciilifeform: '... Who can remove his outer coat? Who can approach him with a double bridle? Who can open the doors of his face, With his terrible teeth all around? His rows of scales are his pride, Shut up tightly as with a seal; One is so near another That no air can come between them; They are joined one to another, They stick together and cannot be parted.' << dune sandworm!
asciilifeform: 'Can you draw out Leviathan[a] with a hook, Or snare his tongue with a line which you lower? Can you put a reed through his nose, Or pierce his jaw with a hook? Will he make many supplications to you? Will he speak softly to you? Will he make a covenant with you? Will you take him as a servant forever? Will you play with him as with a bird, Or will you leash him for your maidens? Will your companions make a banquet of him? Will they
danielpbarron: this time, just a typo
asciilifeform: understand, if elephant is being devoured by ants, it does not necessarily follow that anthill is a 'great place to live' for elephant - or lion, or the other animals watching.
trinque: begins to look like a great place to live, provided decent gas mask.
asciilifeform: i was recently reading about 'oilite', a type of self-lubricating bronze, that is still made in usa. the factory where it was originally produced, owned by chrysler corp., lived in the '30s. today it is a ruin, rats live in it. oilite is still made, in usa, but for how long - i have nfi, at some point it will become difficult to find people who will follow the ritual (yes, to savages, industry is ritual) and it will sail off to china ☟︎
asciilifeform: there was a... nearly incomprehensibly titanic 'battery charge' of ingenuity, sanity, and plain simple 'ant' (vs 'grasshopper') accumulated delayed gratification, that is now being maggoted through.
trinque: what a pathetic thing if so
trinque: certainly a mircea_popescutronic question
trinque: central bank interest rate is afaik the rate it loans to other banks, which then themselves may speak a certain multiple of money into existence by virtue of holding the central bank's voodoo
asciilifeform: not much of a spoiler if i say that the devaluations did not work! tyres and other seemingly mundane 'shop' goods still had to be allocated in gnarly and entirely nonmarkety ways.
asciilifeform: you walked into a shop, and, if i had x - you bought x, with paper cash.
asciilifeform: trinque do you know, e.g., why devaluations of the ruble were a bi-decennial, regular thing in su ?
asciilifeform: i know a few things re (1) - e.g., cash confiscations.
asciilifeform: but it is not clear, at least to me, that debased currency is a ~cause~ rather than ~symptom~ of cultural decay. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i and anyone else can point to a few obvious 'financial memory leaks' - e.g., folks borrowing against 'their' house , buying btc, and rocketing off to mars.
asciilifeform: i.e. i am satisfied that there ~is~ one, but have nfi re particulars (hormesis, say, is a thing.)
asciilifeform: the relationship between the 'goldman sachs printed another trillion' kind of inflation, and this weimar one, is - at least to my savage and primitive mind - a murky one
a111: Logged on 2013-12-25 21:05 mircea_popescu: Itzhak is a respectable moneylender in the small neighbourhood of Fool's Crossing.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-12 19:03 mircea_popescu: "alf's idea of a think he has no sensation access nor cares to reasses to has remained unchanged over the interval the foregoing held"
asciilifeform: a great many 'atrocity stories' from u.s. folk fit this description, on close thought
mircea_popescu: "alf's idea of a think he has no sensation access nor cares to reasses to has remained unchanged over the interval the foregoing held" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: dubious there'll be a 2031 to palpate against.
mircea_popescu: myeah. kinda why the name of the game has been "suck it dry and expatriate all you can" for about a decade now.
asciilifeform: 'So she returned to the state disability office and told them this. Their response was, "Oh, I guess that's new. Okay, no problem, we'll assign you a different ID number." My cousin's kid was like "WTF?" and asked them why they would reassign her a number rather than reassign, or better yet freeze, the SSN thief's account. Their response was that they don't get involved in those legal issues, their job is just to provide the benefit
asciilifeform: 'The state told her she had to contact the SSA to get a specific form that says her SSN was misused and that she in fact was the "owner" of her number. When she went to the SSA, she said they wouldn't give her the form. The reason? They stopped giving them out (apparently recently as this just happened a few months ago) because they were getting too many request for them. So their decision, rather than going after the people falsely
asciilifeform: 'one prisoner might make a break for it, half a dozen will sit, smoke, justify...'
asciilifeform: 'how to guard an auschwitz. make sure you have half a dozen....' etc
mircea_popescu: "how to cook crab ?" "make sure you have a half dozen or more"
mircea_popescu: hey, brain needs a foundational fiction.
mircea_popescu: the beauty of the fucking logs - what is actually said can, and IS actually extricated from the "reasonable interpretation" it forms at the time of the saying. this is both a) a necessary effect of the passage of time and b) actually exponential rather than log or even liear. Moreover c) it actually provides aggregating benefits to everyone's toolset.
mircea_popescu: i suspect this may be a case of "you may not use that tool here" being taken for "i don't like that tool". it was a domain problem most likely, but do link ?
mircea_popescu: but HAD he proper numeration, he'd be in such better a position.
asciilifeform: because he was not mircea_popescu and did not have any knife sharp enough to actually make a palpable mark on the wall.
mircea_popescu: myeah. this blog thing seems to me very strictly a problem of "tools are 30 iq points".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he had a blog.
mircea_popescu: having a blog* i mean