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BingoBoingo: Alf blowback killed the wikipedo Fritzchip article
BingoBoingo: ESL is a curse, especially when WikiBritain keeps redirecting their Fritzchip articles to TPM wank
mircea_popescu: this was disraeli, pm, responding to some jewhate wank fashionable at the time.
mircea_popescu: The essence of this meme is when black people say things like ‘We wuz kangz while you wuz in caves!‘ << he's apparently ignorant enough to quote proper source.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's transparently a case of "we optimize for average player", imo. if they figure out 90% of time-spent-playing by a playerbase that averages 30% completion is in the first 10% of the game, therefore they'll aim to spend 90% of resources to make that first 10%.
mircea_popescu: it's such a sad property of 90s video games that the further in, the less effort per square foot. endless straight corridors and bs.
mircea_popescu: then they did the "crystal" bs and it actually soured me, on the 9th.
asciilifeform recalls this
mircea_popescu: this inanity nearly soured me to might&magic series. fucking 6th episode features some spaceship pyramid thing massively.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Pyramid Space Ships are a bonafide religious belief of the "Nation of Islam"
mircea_popescu: pro tip : southerners in egypt cca 3k years ago lived exactly like southerners in us cca 200 years ago : it was presumed they were someone's slave as a matter of course, because how else beast in city.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I was thinking about that actually. Get into the language before it was split by the Empire days.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, that's almost 100% whore/stripper fare, the "ancient pharaonic nigger" wank.
mircea_popescu: gil blas also, and generally their medieval productions.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in usa, they'll buy just about anyffing, e.g. black pharaoinic egypt etc
mircea_popescu: in other news BingoBoingo maybe it's time you try cervantes. it's much better in original.
BingoBoingo: Not just bought. They LIVE this
mircea_popescu: amusingly, a bunch of subnormal "usians of color" actually bought this nonsense.
mircea_popescu: ikr ? started a whole pile of wank down there, also.
BingoBoingo: The only result or Italian Imperial aspirations was convincing Ethiopia they "R REEL impire 2"
mircea_popescu: which is ~precisely~ what they did. the only way to have an empire is by empowering the empire builders, which at the time in italy were sicilians. trying to "we too empire" without the earlier described maneuver is exact identity with trying to eat cake but not use mouth.
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/06/18/language-acquisition-and-the-perception-thereof/ << Bingo Blog - Language Acquisition And The Perception Thereof
mircea_popescu: looks more like "we too want to eat cake, but not using mouth." even if they manage to shove some cream up butthole, it still won't taste that good. ☟︎
asciilifeform: cargo cult output makes 0 sense other than in light of the picture of the orig subject of imitation, airplane, brit empire, etc
asciilifeform: upstack, italy et al were , as i understand, fucking around with cargo cult version of 'we too want british empire', sorta how 500yr earlier HRE derped with 'we want roman empire'
asciilifeform: could picture this as restoring from old, worm-eaten backup tape.
asciilifeform: retarded, but sat out the 'reformation' derpery.
mircea_popescu: the only problem is that islam's been retarded for a long, long time. they had a brief culturalization period under the (mostly, disinterested) turks, but otherwise they periodically prune the tinking folk (say, persians).
asciilifeform: ( just possibly, the 'migrant' program has an aim outside of 'prop up demographic' )
asciilifeform: possibly in the new,improved!11,mohammedo-europiliphate, has another shot.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: difficult to hang anything on theology in 20th c europistan, given how they rm -rf / 'd their theological backbone
mircea_popescu: if they started making sense, even a little, where would they be ?
mircea_popescu: it's an un~reasonable~ demand. the ~reason~ it's a dream is so it dun make sense.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this whole discussion suddenly explains the difficulty of noobs showing up. when asked who they are, the block is "i dunno how to communicate MY DREAMS to you". duh.
mircea_popescu: somehow the imaginary kingdom of sardinia CAN very much conquer all of italy ; but the very real kingdom of sicily ? no WAI omfgbbq!!! how could something ~real~ occur!
asciilifeform: btw who recalls ~poland~ derping around in '30s , 'we want colonies too!' , demonstrations in streets with d00dz in (yes) cork helmets, etc
mircea_popescu: and consider also the makework angle, it's fucking beautiful. so german-italy, as a thoroughly nosnese piece of fanfic/wank, needs some sort of something to hold it together. what do they pick ? oh, eritrea! which they can't do, but need german airplanes etcv for (and still can't do). meanwhile sicilian-italy'd have had no such problem at all, THEY don't need eritrea for anything.
asciilifeform: for all the 'wave of conquest' of germany, the germans themselves made very questionable mongols. observe that they ended up outsourcing good chunk of the wetwork to local orcs ( city-boi ss grunts went 'shell shocked' from executions ), derped around with gasenwagens 'to make cleaner' etc
mircea_popescu: and "englightment", "progress", "future", the whole enchilada.
mircea_popescu: i mean in some places, like iran or w/e, actual theological approaches were fielded. but in yurp it was still mostly a matter of burgeois thought, aka "reason"
asciilifeform: the derpage re 'reason'(tm)(r) afaik hit the pause button in those days
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well if that's what he was aiming for the german bootlick approach is even less comprehensible.
mircea_popescu: and then of course, to cherry the cocktail, pretend you're all about ~reason~ hurr.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: duce , as i understand, was aiming for startopoligical throne, rather than primus inter pares among sicilian mob or the like
mircea_popescu: yes, but see, that women welcome rape is one thing. that the boi pretending to some kind of superhumanity in the nitschean vein does so while dressed in garters and pigtails is the wonderment.
asciilifeform: e.g. latvia, today possibly the moar pathetic of the nato clitlicker poodles, less than century earlier spread wide for lenin, to the point that he hired the entirety of his leibstandarte there
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform question is, why did the duce care.
asciilifeform: 'pleez, pleez make it thicker, and with moar spikes'
asciilifeform: in this model the 'surprise' of france, baltics, whoever, spreading wide for their traditional prussian rapist, suddenly evaporates. what surprise.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-12 20:40 mircea_popescu: you're not going to reproduce the former by the latter ; just like you're not going to lure my slavegirls away by promising to be "a good sensitive guy with a great sense of humor".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sicily didn't much care for il duce's 'star topology' nonsense. hence 'german orders' not 'men of honour'
asciilifeform: 'The Socialist who finds his children playing with soldiers is usually upset, but he is never able to think of a substitute for the tin soldiers; tin pacifists somehow won’t do' etc
asciilifeform: blair, just possibly, actually grasped it, 'All three of the great dictators have enhanced their power by imposing intolerable burdens on their peoples. Whereas Socialism, and even capitalism in a more grudging way, have said to people ‘I offer you a good time,’ Hitler has said to them ‘I offer you struggle, danger and death,’ and as a result a whole nation flings itself at his feet.'
mircea_popescu: now try and construct a thought process explaining mussolini's choice in ~any other terms~ than the foregoing, i wish to see it. why exactly did he not say "o boy, i am so impressed, the government is henceforth to be formed exclusively from among the sicilian men of honor" but instead said "o boy, i am so impressed, the government is henceforth to be formed exclusively as per german orders" ?
mircea_popescu: it is clear to the dork that he has to pick one, and notwithstanding his very model comes to life for him to warn against following the former (in the uncertain terminology of "you'll end up germans' bootblacks"), nevertheless he doesn't pick reality. because he can't pick reality, because he's a ghost not a person.
mircea_popescu: there are two important meetings in his new life : one is when a fellow named francesco cuccia shows him the way of his country ; the other is when a fellow not named schicklgruber shows him the way of his fancy.
mircea_popescu: so that waffling, inept d'annunzion wanna-be, amilcare andrea, is elected by his enemies as the least dangerous among his friends. cuz that's how papal elections work, and have worked since forever.
mircea_popescu: here's a riddle for the student of history : ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "i got better things to do than put the woman on her knees, and besides, she's loud and wet about it" etcetera.
mircea_popescu: we could even go so far as to say that inca is the chain-of-knaves.
mircea_popescu: " 1880s because totally, that's what you have servants for, not to rule their life but to hide away cowering somewhere ; it's not just that ladri de biciclete clearly and plainly shows the ~exact same~ roman insulae, 1950 as 19.5 -- except thoroughly deserted of the pater familias that'd have ~been~ ~there~ in the first century.
mircea_popescu: it's not just e a blair going "oh noes, what if the indian mob laughs at my gun!!1 better wet the bed" 1920s ; it's not just j k huysmans going "il s'arrangea, enfin, de façon à ne pas être souvent obligé de leur parler ou de les voir.
mircea_popescu: in any case : the present pile of sad is the result of numerous betrayals and cowardries.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the archive link 404's
mircea_popescu: it's at the very least what their lawyer entered as a plea.
asciilifeform: i suppose it's a defensible pov, that the various 'social democrats' etc derps who agreed to 'coalition with provisional gov' , played role similar to the human bridges over barbed wire in ww2
mircea_popescu: this is the substance of the rtc wank in the post-war years.
mircea_popescu: alf says " this encourages the idjit farmers." i ask "and in that, are they the dumber, even ?"
asciilifeform: 'ended up there too'
mircea_popescu: looky that we ended up there too.
mircea_popescu: this being the deep issue of the "rezistenta prin cultura" after all.
mircea_popescu: and in that, are they the dumber, even ?
asciilifeform: the dumber bulls, in this model, actually agree to sit down, and try to moo out prayer, this encourages the idjit farmers.
mircea_popescu: it's the lulz of all time.
mircea_popescu: and then they keep getting humiliatingly defeated any ol' fucking time i feel like, and they "explain it".
mircea_popescu: yes, but then the farmer seats bull at table, and spends the evening wondering why the chair doesn't seem to fit and why this fellow won't say grace with him.
asciilifeform: it is not difficult to corral folx who have deeply nfi what they're doing or why. just as farmer has no problem with corralling bull, despite the latter weighing 10x of him
mircea_popescu: the mammies that "just wanna" "the system" to continue "until they get their pension" are supposed to share a seat with the "fuck you all and if you all burn tomorrow it's not soon enough" smart people. duh ?
mircea_popescu: it's not fucking self-hating at all, lol, it's simply not a thing.
mircea_popescu: aaannyway. the pantsuit co-opting of what originally was "fuck your broken github-based must-upgrade process" into their own stinking folds is the ultimate act of cultural appropriation. and why "the left" is "turbulent" and "self-hating".
a111: Logged on 2017-03-22 04:08 asciilifeform: in other veryolds, 'you'll feel no dismay, watching your house burn, after you get to see how the bedbug dies!' (korean proverb)
asciilifeform: see also the mega-proverb of the eastern orcistans, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-22#1630779 . ☝︎
mircea_popescu: which is how all the cool kids were nazi, and how come the nazis had the cool art, and so forth.
asciilifeform: ( the only other faction that shared this pheature, were mahno's anarchists, and they came pretty close to a win )
mircea_popescu: and this is, also, the deep justification of nazism. "if they actually flatten the modern democracy science & reason idiots, we don't even care if there's no more jews".
mircea_popescu: simply the ideology marx explicitly feared, "they'll rally around a flag saying 'mort aux cons' instead of our pantsuit preference".
asciilifeform: btw one pheature of lenin & co that gets vehehery little press these days , when folx like to point out 'he didn't overthrow , other factions did all the work' : lenin & co refused, out of principle, to participate in any 'temporary government' derpage at all. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: yes, ideology, but not AT ALL the ideology retconned in place of reality cca 1960.
mircea_popescu: moreover, this is how prinz whoever the fuck got bombed in 1914, and how everything else.
mircea_popescu: ~this~ is the fundamental reason the tsar got killed ; lenin isn't so much a "bolshevik" as he is a decadent, in this proper sense : "by fucking god ima hang all of you", spoken 1890.
mircea_popescu: the leadership went on to create anarchism.
mircea_popescu: and unrelenting such idiocy. this called itself "symbolism", to dissociate itself from the terrorists.
mircea_popescu: bleu et ne détient plus que leur jaune qui ne garde, à son tour, qu'un ton faux, qu'une saveur trouble. "
mircea_popescu: er se renfrognent encore et s'alourdissent; les gris de perle perdent leur azur et se métamorphosent en un blanc sale; les bruns s'endorment et se froidissent; quant aux verts foncés, ainsi que les verts empereur et les verts myrte, ils agissent de même que les gros bleus et fusionnent avec les noirs; restaient donc les verts plus pâles, tels que le vert paon, les cinabres et les laques, mais alors la lumière exile leur
mircea_popescu: "Lentement, il tria, un à un, les tons. Le bleu tire aux flambeaux sur un faux vert; s'il est foncé comme le cobalt et l'indigo, il devient noir; s'il est clair, il tourne au gris; s'il est sincère et doux comme la turquoise, il se ternit et se glace. À moins donc de l'associer, ainsi qu'un adjuvant, à une autre couleur, il ne pouvait être question d'en faire la note dominante d'une pièce. D'un autre côté, les gris f
mircea_popescu: then sometime in the 90s there was a split : the bulk of these intelligents decided "we just want to", ie, "not interested in politics", proceeded to discuss colors, in the vein of
mircea_popescu: intelligent people grouped about, and the grouping was named "decadence" (in french, because the world was french then).
mircea_popescu: this led to a strict rejection of "modern science" and "the rational process", thereby implicitly of "modern democracy" (it was just as modern then, too) and so forth.
mircea_popescu: no. late 1800s, it became evident, just as today, that the emperor is thoroughly naked.
mircea_popescu: i dunno how aware you are of all this, but here : the previous set of "holy shit, the inca's a pile of idiocy" folk deserted the leadership under the flag of "we just want to". you know ?