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diana_coman: FundsAreSafuh, what do you spend your
time on?
diana_coman: FundsAreSafuh, how do you plan
to "join" exactly?
FundsAreSafuh: The
thrill of buying 60 BTC, and spending it all on cannabis.
The exhilaration of learning PGP for
the first
time.
The realization
that FeedZeBirds was a scam.
☟︎ FundsAreSafuh: I guess nostalgia brought me back, and
the realization
that
things are never going
to be
the same. I'm just a former MPOE holder come back
to join
the ol' gang
FundsAreSafuh: I made a small fortune
trading Friedcat's ASICMINER shares on GLBSE, before Nefario disappeared. Now I'm a crypto nomad spending
time between NYC and
the Republic of Panama
FundsAreSafuh: I used
to lurk here quite often back in
the 2014-2015 days, back
then I used
to be mentioned on
the channel for some of my BitcoinTalk antics
FundsAreSafuh: the pursuit of knowledge, and an adoration for
the great Mircea Popescu
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-04-22 00:36 asciilifeform: phf:
the emacs
tumour (see logz,
the 'flycheck'
thread) is what really blew my mind
ave1: I used
to program in Smalltalk for work, was a lot of fun.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-19 17:13 mircea_popescu: what's actually
the usercount ? spyked ? esthlos ? ave1 ? jurov ?
mod6: i like
the emacs/x11
thread
mod6: im not done catching up on
this solid log yet; but if someone wants
to make some money, can always start sellin for pizarro!
phf: you don't like rail? rail
take you place no problem
phf: hmm
true, also
the soviets probably wouldn't make
those german style
train stations
mircea_popescu: phf funny, rails linked from
there look 100% like "patriotic knockoff rails"
mircea_popescu: it's
the details
though, like say
the conical buffer plate supports, or
the electrified wheel and so on
mircea_popescu: i recall
TT branding, but
that's just generic size indication
phf: but if i had
to guess from picture
there's
two straights at
the end and
three curves in
the middle
phf: yeah, i'm pretty sure
they've not even made flexible ones until quite recently
mircea_popescu: mine were definitely rigid. pre-curved elements. had
to mix and match, i had a ballot of
them
mircea_popescu: phf
this is confusing, because
the engines look right but
the cars do not.
phf: i
think maybe even same GDR brand "liliput"
mircea_popescu: selector sat on an inclined cutout in
the box, and
the voltage was represented by squarish indentations on either side, increasing in size ?
mircea_popescu: let's see how far
this goes. square, olive green converter box, with a white selector, sorta angular shape ?
mircea_popescu: yeah sounds like same.
though i
thought mine was from
teh ddr.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the plastic pine
trees, round
things go on a stick ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, beautiful handpainted railcars,
too, had a double beer barrel
thingee, all sorts.
mircea_popescu: i didn't have incline ramps in mine. but yes,
these existed
mircea_popescu: even something as simple as a figure 8 with 2 engines of diff powers was fun
to watch
mircea_popescu: but it came with model houses,
trees, bridges, multiple switches etc.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes generally around
the age of 10-12 or so discover it can be applied
to soft parts also.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: don't
tell
the inca but i fly
ben_vulpes: fun inversely proportional
to lethality and all
that
ben_vulpes: "flies" is a bit strong; i like big kinetic-energy
toys and have friends with
them.
ben_vulpes: it is
the gliders
that are actually hard.
ben_vulpes: any goon can get a powered bird
to do simple
things
ben_vulpes: and
this is why i still don't have many male friends "we're going
to go fly quadcopters!" "...why don't we drive out
to
the hangar and
take
the plane out instead?"
phf takes his model
trains and walks away
to play by himself
phf: well shit buy him a squirrel suit
then i dunno
ben_vulpes: i eventually learned
that unless i can feel
the gs in
the seat of my pants i have
trouble giving much of a fuck
phf: but yeah,
there was a shortage of age appropriate games in russia. parents would keep you from breaking something by basically going "if you break it, i'll give you away
to mr. policeman" and such.
phf: ben_vulpes: well, you need a nice length of
tracks, nor do you need
to make it a circle (just close
the circuit by other means). it can figure nicely in any kind of gameplay, but honestly it gave me my first experiential understanding of electricity
ben_vulpes: phf: i had a set quite like
that as well, but never got into it. "so, it goes around? and if you go
too fast, it pops off
the
track?" brio also more for
the 2-5 set
phf: i guess
this was also popular in u.s., because i'd see it in movies and such, and presumably original mit hackers were model
train fans, but i
take it it's not really a 80s-90s kids
thing..
ben_vulpes: historically wood and steel
train
toys
ben_vulpes: ("the fuck kind of child abuser makes
these
toys, you mean")
ben_vulpes: the fuck kind of kid wants
to watch a
train roll about at 1 cm/min
ben_vulpes: "brio" actually ships battery-powered "engines",
these days, with wheels
that resist
turning except when driven by batteries, if you can imagine.
ben_vulpes: i have a stack of blank index cards upon which i write or draw whatever
thing i feel like
training
the kid on at any given moment. "memory" games with shapes and letters and numbers,
the alphabet and numbers, just starting in on word shapes. beyond
that, no blinkenlichten, no plastics, a commitment
to correcting diction and grammar all day and i'm pretty sure one's into diminishing returns after
that
ben_vulpes: the montesorri stuff makes me laugh. oh, you mean
the little learning machine
thrives on new and varied challenges? you don't fucking say
mircea_popescu: but yes,
the universal, uniyelding, perpetual and ubiquitous problem of "people" who were born even
though god didn't have souls
to supply
the meat with is
this : life's
too heavy a burden.
mircea_popescu: wank is wank is wank. what do you mean "mathematical representation" ? ie, "depersonalization" ? how exactly is
the number 3 going
to be "personal"
esthlos: to be fair
to egan,
the actual supposition is not
that consciousness exists "in" computer, but
that it has a mathematical representation. not
that it affects mircea_popescu 's point
phf: yeah, a computer program will produce
the same result whether it runs on slow cpu or fast cpu. fascinating read.
esthlos: so
THAT's what
those less wrong folks are jerking off
to
phf: i
think
the causation is backwards, egan chooses substrate, assumes consciousness can exist on
that substrate,
then explores properties of substrate. doesn't say anything interesting about consciousness, but exploration of substrate. since naive mechanistic cellular machine interpretations are in vogue,
that's
the substrate
that egan works with.
mircea_popescu: subjective psychological phenomena are just
that -- subjective.
mircea_popescu: not anymore
than remanence of vision can exist "in" a camera.
esthlos: but
then what _is_
the cpu state but an arrangement of electrons? and why can't I say "these electrons on my butt are cpu state 53,
those on alpha centauri are cpu state 54..."
esthlos: my vague understanding is: if consciousness can exist "in" a computer,
then what happens when
the cpu states are reorganized arbitrarily, or distributed spatially? egan supposes
that conscious entity can't detect
the effect.
Mocky: if you could upload your consiousness
to a pc, would you notice when when your process got swapped out. and if no, how long a pause could you
tolerate