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mircea_popescu: on one hand, i think it really should not be our preoccupation as s.mg. it's not actually important enough.
diana_coman: as per http://ossasepia.com/2019/11/05/eulora-smg-taking-a-different-sort-of-stock/ I think there are a few points:
mircea_popescu: just drove stylistic choice of form, as it happens convenient.
diana_coman: but ftr, the fact he writes those in parts is because I set him to do that (as a cure to wasting time otherwise).
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as scientist "by himself". contrary to whatever mistaken notions poor schooling, science is a purely rational process ; the incommunicably stubborn self-directed bullshit ain't science ~except by accident~. ☝︎
BingoBoingo has thought of a blog post as being like a fence post. A structural piece holding together the larger blog as a whole. The poor labeling argument however does carry more weight than my previously private metaphor.
mircea_popescu: yes, and you're cordially invited to do it on facebook. you could similarily cook using something other than a stove -- such as for instance, an open pit fire. you're cordially invited to do that with your berber brethren, rather than indoors. and so on.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, "open as in free not as in beer and source as in source not as in entry!!!"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-11-05 08:41:55 mp_en_viaje: peterl & all : would you mind terribly if you referred to your articles, on your blogs, as articles ? it's what they are, i get it, you post them, but calling them "posts" makes about as much sense as calling cars "a drived" and girls "a fucked". you don't go about bars with a "hey, fucked! wanna do shots ?", do you ?
PeterL: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-11-05#1949532 << The way I understand, on a blog (short for web log), a post refers to any item, which could be an article. Most posts are articles, I will try to refer to them as such in the future.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-04 08:05:05 mp_en_viaje: comments welcome ; as things currently stand i'm thinking a one week auction starting tomorrow is the way to go here.
mp_en_viaje: c. 1200, "separate parts of anything written" (such as the statements in the Apostles' Creed, the clauses of a statute or contract), from Old French article (13c.), from Latin articulus "a part, a member," also "a knuckle; the article in grammar," diminutive of artus "a joint," from PIE *ar(ə)-tu-, suffixed form of root *ar- "to fit together."
diana_coman: yes, but "post" there for all its similarity to "to post to the blog" is just as made up, as far as I can see; a blog post, as there is a newspaper article, dunno; and in the vein of "just as much to do with what they are doing otherwise", wouldn't that hold for articles too?
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: blog is just a made up word as much as post is.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, the reason i brought it up being specifically "In the past, software development could be done by applying a series of patches to arrive at a final program state. With v, the patch is replaced with the slightly different vpatch, as described below."
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-10-29 diana_coman: PeterL: and for completion, the application 2-steps process applies to you just the same as to any newcomer (if anything, due to do-nothing history, you start with a minus compared to them).
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-05 04:46:58 mp_en_viaje: peterl & all : would you mind terribly if you referred to your articles, on your blogs, as articles ? it's what they are, i get it, you post them, but calling them "posts" makes about as much sense as calling cars "a drived" and girls "a fucked". you don't go about bars with a "hey, fucked! wanna do shots ?", do you ?
mp_en_viaje: peterl & all : would you mind terribly if you referred to your articles, on your blogs, as articles ? it's what they are, i get it, you post them, but calling them "posts" makes about as much sense as calling cars "a drived" and girls "a fucked". you don't go about bars with a "hey, fucked! wanna do shots ?", do you ?
hanbot: re "related confict", gotta admit i've gotten rather sad from the way it's decayed. i guess stating it as such is my attempt to let it go; i've said what i thought was relevant on thewhet and well...pfft.
mp_en_viaje: but as far as the weather goes, this was a superb autumn in yurp, had like one day of rain in five weeks' journeys, and even now, it's just sunny and beautiful.
diana_coman: mats: seriously, as aggressive as I might seem to you, maybe read the #ossasepia logs and figure some help out.
mod6: mp_en_viaje: Thank you for the response. I don't plan on doing anything to get neg-rated. Just having been in the soup, as it were, for some time. Figured, my turn is coming. But I hope I'm wrong about that.
diana_coman: mats: no; I upped you to figure out what you are actually doing since you seemed to have become again active; why does that strike you as aggressive?
mp_en_viaje: lobbes, the excerpter seems to be pretty thoroughly broken ; other than the weird you describe, it also apparently strips spaces incomprehensibly when doing the ?b=&e= automatic population for trackbacks. (for example http://trilema.com/2019/closing-statement-for-no-such-labs-snsa/?b=overthesix&e=over#select ; as pointed out by whaack )
mp_en_viaje: comments welcome ; as things currently stand i'm thinking a one week auction starting tomorrow is the way to go here.
spyked: so far looking at the rss list-of-items as an ordered list sounds like the simplest and cleanest approach, I currently dun see any reason why the blog would change that on reconfigs.
mircea_popescu: as it happens i was just going through the complete works by cosbuc these days
mircea_popescu: "Zici ca de m-ai fi cerut mamei tale nora-n casa, n-as fi vrut sa merg? E, lasa! Ca de-o fata cui-i pasa, nu se ia dupa parut! De-ntrebai, ai fi vazut!"
mircea_popescu: hanbot, bolunzeala, a superlative form of imbulzeala, such as eg https://www.bl.uk/collection-items/rebellion-by-london-apprentices-in-1595
mircea_popescu: none whatsoever, delete as appropriate.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-02 10:17:14 mircea_popescu: i'd go as far as to say that any feed without a guid is ~therefore~ broken, and any software putting out such a thing has to be fixed.
BingoBoingo: My youngest brother, not the dentist, is an engineer of the mechanical flavor. Whatever gets other engineers focused on the internals of their computers, it never took with him. Roughly as uninterested to him as the internals of his car. When I started putting together bookshelves back in old country for something to do with my hands, he offered to help.
BingoBoingo: I'm not entirely unsure I don't have or in the past hed a touch of engineer bogging down my head, but not indentifying as an engineer myself... I am unsure what has to break for an engineer to get the resignation, that can build to a faith, that recovery can proceed from.
mircea_popescu: (exactly the same situation, p to q as a to b, is what i mean)
mircea_popescu: people will give up engineering as an activity if there's enough "being an engineer" nutcases involved.
mircea_popescu: but yes, people afflicted with "being an engineer", the mental disease, often end up working ~as~ engineers. it's a lot like pedophiles working as camp guides or w/e : superficially they're some of the best, most serious & dedicated etc workers in the field ; but as a group they're also pretty much the only serious danger to the field -- people will definitely stop sending their kids to camp if there's enough pedos running c
diana_coman: I don't think it's in the engineering though; more maybe the other way around ie engineering as a result, not as a cause.
mircea_popescu: maybe the way out is rather in the vein of handling addiction, make an Engineers Anonymous, build up a list of tenants, "i understand i have a problem, that i can't fix but i can try to manage, and by the higher power as i understand it ima try" or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: i understand the more fashionable neoprotestant theory on the topic requires "i can do anything" as a hard prerequisite, and therefore "personal development" or "growth" is a boundless field of possibility. i'm... well, moderately optimistic on this topic, in the sense that i don't for a second credit such nonsense.
mircea_popescu: minus, i guess, the lsd theory, as the one exception. i'm rather with the classical psychology camp : the fundamental breakage in cognitive development brought into view by the unyielding flow of events was probably definitively formed by age 12 ; developmental delay is sometimes recuperated in later years -- but in the ~early~ later years.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile -- as perhaps the strangest case of sycophants & cut-throats hypnotizing the supposed mastermind in recorded history, it turns out that i... actually agree with ~everything~ everyone else said to asciilifeform (not that it's hard, the various rays being remarkably collimated, there's harmonic agreement the likes of which cultists' dreams are made of).
mircea_popescu: i'd go as far as to say that any feed without a guid is ~therefore~ broken, and any software putting out such a thing has to be fixed.
mircea_popescu: there's an aspect under which it's currently agnostic, namely that articles come in an entropy-locked timeflow, whereas it expects to see them as random lists.
spyked: altho ftr, most feeds currently handled by feedbot are wordpress rss, so if that gets declared the reference point, could use it as such
diana_coman: ftr I do enjoy reading otherwise your crisp descriptions there but as they build up, in the end I'll still have to summarise & basically extract a "spec" out of them.
diana_coman: spyked: hm; still a list ie once it finds what it had as "the last previously announced item", why would it look further?
diana_coman: spyked: they have the timestamp, no? and/or they come as a list anyway.
diana_coman: I'm also rather weary of manual disables and the like because 1. this never scales, it can't 2. now I need to keep a list of things for which to poke spyked to disable my feed if I as much as touch them on my own blog?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-01 20:49:54 billymg: yeah, when originally ripping it out, my brain parsed a "if (! $richedit ) ..." as "if ( $richedit ) ..." and so removed the line
billymg: yeah, when originally ripping it out, my brain parsed a "if (! $richedit ) ..." as "if ( $richedit ) ..." and so removed the line
BingoBoingo: As far as I can tell nothing notably better than the existing local assets
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: and rather surprisingm when I actually took the time to look into the archive.php thing, it was as easy as snip-the-shit
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I always imagine as a consequence the story of Death-With-A-Lawnmower at that image.
diana_coman: there's always this code-text tension that annoys me because I still read it as broken-sign: code should be text but then each time I try to get it along text, it doesn't play well, ugh.
mp_en_viaje: it has that shape, made to fuck grass. it'll fuck simpletons just as well. hence the falx, the traditional weapon of muh ppl, the one thing the romans feared.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-01#1949003 << you've made quite the conundrum for yourself. as a service operator, aesthetic rates are a serious problem, because look how you've forced upon yourself this spurious dilemma of "do my negrates not mean much, or do my negrates fuck up my business"
mp_en_viaje: http://trilema.com/2019/the-dazzling-array-of-angles-a-celebration/?b=that%20poet&e=#select works exactly as intended ; we're here making tools to work ~with~ the user, not against the user. which is why i say it's not a bug, merely permitting the user to be stupid if he so chooses is no bug.
mp_en_viaje: i meant stronger as in "a stronger play", they make better horses, how the hell should we introduce this concept.
mp_en_viaje: i admit that he doesn't sound altogether sane, an' if you wish to take it as a poor reflection on my judgement that i permit insanity to stand in the light i'll have to bear it ; the alternative strikes me as outright perversity and i dun wanna.
mp_en_viaje: in any case more never looked as splendid as when scofield dressed up in him.
mp_en_viaje: "Listen, Meg. God made the angels to show him splendour. As he made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But Man he made to serve him wittily, in the tangle of his mind. If he suffers us to come to such a case that there is no escaping, then we may stand to our tackle as best we can. And yes, Meg, then we can clamour like champions, if we have the spittle for it.But it's God's part, not our own, to bring ourselves to such a pass.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, so paul scofield (as a most excellent sir thomas more) talks to his daugther :
BingoBoingo: As long as it isn't too rounded
BingoBoingo: Kinda like how here the local police seccional is where old men hang out while younger men in uniforms take reports to enter into the official record as a sorta notary.
BingoBoingo: Right, I am uncertain the extent to which things here do as claimed. "Planta de explosives" could be the exact equivalent of a western farm kid's back shed except with uniforms and such.
BingoBoingo: They've got plenty of cellulose, now beating beef as an export in real value terms. Difficult to be certain the the extent a "planta de explosivos" is actually a factory.
asciilifeform: the final output i'ma put on own www, as mp_en_viaje explicitly req'd.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-28 16:20:50 asciilifeform: moar alive nao than ever. as for mp_en_viaje , plox to post the signed addr. piz liquidators, plox to take proceedings to #p. folx who intend to continue to crib off asciilifeform's work, which continues, or want functioning hosting : to #a. (which i'ma take is no longer official mp castle, i'ma take off the sign shortly.) next gen of FG will still be produced, on asciilifeform's dime ( and i'ma respect mp_en_vi
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I understand your desire to construct a defense, but look. I just took apart and reassembled a hand stack of machines to get two photos at your request. You introduced a potential competing claim to title on some of the FUCKGOATS, which I will investigate as I must. However the count and all the photos in the world don't mean shit if you sign off on a S.NSA closing inventory that includes items other folks hold the title
asciilifeform: ( pet (who ate 100% log) to a: 'so, finally '38, he declared you a враг народа, eh' ; a:'aha. i expect transport crate that fits you will be showing up soon; as you know, mp claims ownership of all gurlz, yer gettin' repossessed' p : 'lol' )
asciilifeform: while mp_en_viaje prolly intends to try an' paint asciilifeform as a thief, on top of charlatan, i've no intention of making ~that~ job easy for him.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I removed those during the count as trinque has made it clear that he has little interest in the future of that chassis. I am also now going to have to put statement and not archaeology on the to do list to sort out wtf is going on with that, because it does affect the meaning of the count.
mp_en_viaje: bimbo (who watched walk of shame with us yesterday, and was very miffed at the whole premise -- "that dumb bitch, they even speak her language!" ; as one who has spent days exactly in the manner there depicted but in rando orclands, she's quite entitled to the pov) : "so... umm... i published an article... it's not very good..."
asciilifeform: again w/ the psychobabbles. as if i've any need to 'excuses'. i'm speaking strictly to spell out the logical implications of what mp_en_viaje said, for the thick. ( and incidentally i dun disagree w/ him, if you want to be rid not only of asciilifeform but of his ghost, you gotta rewrite it all in php, cpp, on microshit... )
diana_coman: asciilifeform: no, there is no such thing as aimed at a level; name people if you are aiming at anyone or otherwise don't just throw words about.
mp_en_viaje: i sit here watching the redancing of a dance you danced coupla years ago, knowing full well you'll come full circle from this, as from all other positions. it's...
asciilifeform: this is spelled out in asciilifeform's resignation, which ( as mp_en_viaje 'can't be arsed to larp!11' ) i'ma drop into deedbot when the tx clears and BB returns photos etc.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, looky, i get it, it's unpleasant to wake up in the morning and read today's log. it can't be helped ; moreover, you built it, systematically an' carefully, by your very own self, an' against the opinion, advice an' as close to knock upside your dumb head as anyone managed. what can you ask of people, that they fly over and literally beat you into sense ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:24:17 mp_en_viaje: i want to make sure i've done all i can so i don't end up in the same circle of hell as he, and the rest of them "engineering" retards, from chuck dicksuck to all the rest.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-29 15:43:39 asciilifeform: same as above, but decodable by mp_en_viaje key .
mp_en_viaje: hanbot_abroad, i'm actually paying to have the logger fixed, get the ass-sucking dependency he baked in there as an idiot taken out.
mp_en_viaje: i intend to cut as much as possible fo worm off the hook, and i'm rather willing to take zero than any hook.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I suppose there is also the same question applied potentially to the FG and FFA then; but fwiw I digested FFA as well as I could and I still think it is a gem, perhaps a pearl better put: quite the result of successive spinnings/polishings
mp_en_viaje: and for as many spins as you'd like.
hanbot_abroad: it was withstood, consciously, as long as it was, for good reason that remains good reason, no?
mp_en_viaje: i want to make sure i've done all i can so i don't end up in the same circle of hell as he, and the rest of them "engineering" retards, from chuck dicksuck to all the rest.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: over the past few months I had *loads* of precisely thinking re survival given as the whole client+ graphics+EVERYTHING kept growing as work for me to do rather than ever receding so I can get to developing the actual game on server.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-11 11:21:04 mp_en_viaje: because he has sexier things to do than what you need ; and, importantly, because this is WHY he wanted to be a "craftsman" in the first place, and why attempted to scam you into buying custom, rather than standard items : so as to fuck you over by doing "sexier things", because in his broken mind the very thing that impels the "craftsman" misbehaviour also looks at your damage as implicit justification -- in that
mp_en_viaje: now, as we stand, he might've infected us with enough stupid to simply die, specifically in the form of such teoria chibritului hardware and software stacks.
mp_en_viaje: we'll leave the matter of ~why~ "couldn't figure out" for the 3rd discussion, in group ; as we'll leave the assorted bits and ends, how other than whatever the idiot is doing to sabotage himself, with his "circumspect" "conservative" approach every time he should press an advantage, wasting the time so when shit hits the fan, as shit always hits the fan, he can just be sad instead of ciercumspect, and oh, if only the world were
ossabot: Logged on 2018-02-05 21:11:14 mircea_popescu: and as an added bonus, you now get to go about looking for lords willing to bring your ideas about republican iron to the table, because i'm not further looking for your input on the topic just as i'm not further looking for your input on eucrypt topic.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 02:11 mircea_popescu: and as an added bonus, you now get to go about looking for lords willing to bring your ideas about republican iron to the table, because i'm not further looking for your input on the topic just as i'm not further looking for your input on eucrypt topic.
diana_coman: the debacle with iron specs? as cited in the time-mgm piece I wrote iirc?
asciilifeform: same as above, but decodable by mp_en_viaje key .
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: as I previously said in #o, I'm all for xpollination with a qntra-writing course for sure.
mp_en_viaje: with diana_coman as to the future strategy of s.mg (which normally'd belong in eulora, i suppose, but honestly might as well happen here, not like there's any traffic jam or anything) ; and of course with diana_coman hanbot trinque BingoBoingo lobbes spyked bvt ave1 as to what exactly we still want and we can in fact support going forward.
mp_en_viaje: so, if you ever end up publishing half an article because your connection died mid-publish for w/e reason, and as a result your article's comments are closed -- the one pill is to edit the db, set comment_status & ping_status to "open" again.
mp_en_viaje: e open or not come AFTER the body of the article, and as the default is closed...welll... they'll thus be closed.
mp_en_viaje: as it turns out, mp-wp has a ... well, i dunno, i hesitate to call it a bug. it has the following issue : if the publishing of an article (which is itself handled as a http post) gets interrupted for whatever reason (such as the connection dying, the closing packet being waylaid, anything), the article will still be publioshed, partially, ie what made it there ; however because various settings (notably, whether comments etc) ar
mp_en_viaje: as usual.