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mircea_popescu: sooo, /me taught girl about cheese ; maybe a coupla years ago. now /me goes to the fridge, there's epic stuff in there didn't evne know existed in this country.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman it's really not much of a general interest piece ; amateur and professional entomologists only.
diana_coman: well, your notes provide good places to stop and read a bit actually: kind of like signposts here, look at THIS shit - a gem of a shit in a tedious shit
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/iVmK2 << news bulletin from the time. reading it makes me wish the fella had used a maxim gun, or sarin.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman the way it goes in my head reading it is something like "why doesn't this fucking spider walk away. o wait, ITS A SPIDER."
diana_coman: his "writing" can kill more than a bunch for sure
mircea_popescu: diana_coman he died in 2014 ; killed a buncha girls at uc santa barbara
t2yax: its like a username and password
mircea_popescu: a cool
thestringpuller: i didn't think i needed a "production" set up to run a bitcoin node
shinohai: sent you a PM
shinohai: heya t2yax did you submit your key to a public keyserver?
Framedragger: asciilifeform: btw i have all the version banners (for all the hosts in the ssh keyset) stored, probably a good idea to make that available i guess?
trinque: http://trilema.com/2016/the-story-of-elliot-rodger-by-elliot-rodger-adnotated-part-one/#selection-239.0-239.174 << god what a riot; I'm dying
mircea_popescu: guy prolly bought a caramel.
mircea_popescu: what drugs do you ingest in broad daylight on a bike anyway. sugar ?
trinque: mircea_popescu: speaking of coping with poverty, saw a guy selling ring pops in the middle of the road. guy on a motorcycle paid him and immediately popped in his mouth.
mircea_popescu: trinque it's cheap. eating on budget more and more of a problem.
trinque: and a smattering of american fast food. I was surprised how much.
trinque: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel seems foolish to be doing so much work on mcclim without maintaining a presence here.
asciilifeform: 'As an open source project, the Yocto Project operates with a hierarchical governance structure based on meritocracy and managed by its chief architect, Richard Purdie, a Linux Foundation fellow. This enables the project to remain independent of any one of its member organizations, who participate in various ways and provide resources to the project.' ☟︎
mircea_popescu: now you gotta code a watcher to restart your script
mircea_popescu: (last one's actually his gf, has a bitch of a time trying to not laugh. because it's fucking impossible with the idiot.)
mircea_popescu: not to mention that now that we talk about it, scholar of the future has a way to know what to dig for.
asciilifeform: by the time you can tell 'luser' from a hallway's length away, fella prolly has 20 years of radiation damage .
a111: Logged on 2015-06-22 20:01 mircea_popescu: there is a deep link between sex and communication, not least of all because sex is the communication of biological material.
asciilifeform: well, the 'female logic' is in penning a 'why my life sucked' screed to begin with, neh ?
mircea_popescu: the only magic trick in all this is, how is speaker viewing self. if speaker has already decided is not exceptional ; then argument "shorty was exceptional - i'm not" can be brought ; but obviously the heuristic indicates the problem's somewhere else ; if however speaker hasn't made such decision, then the argument can't be logically brought. and we know whether speaker has or hasn't made such a decision by whether he brings
asciilifeform: kasparov can wipe the floor with a room full of handicap players.
mircea_popescu: i won't consider short chicks ; at least in theory (though say chet was a shorty).
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu would quite likely still be mircea_popescu if he were shorter by a cubit.
asciilifeform: (how many chicks will even consider a bloke shorter than self)
asciilifeform: dunno, ask all the other flyers who got shorter by a set of legs, why they did not become aces.
asciilifeform: pelevin had a riot of a b00k, where there was a 'maresyev school of jet pilotage', where they procrust yer legz first thing
mircea_popescu: well, in the literal sense, it's a mafia term denoting this dude who operates independently. but in the figurative sense here used, the idea is that you compare incidence as of the biological phenomenon with incidence as invidivuals-who-are-short-and-also-have-x.
asciilifeform: the timeout thing dun seem to work on my netcat, so this is a painfully slow experiment
mircea_popescu: i guess it'll be a forever lost arcana reference.
asciilifeform: incl a very spiffy flashlight with blinkenlights.
boolcrap: you got a solid american education stas
pete_dushenski: hell, davout wouldn't be a bad guy to ring up atm either.
pete_dushenski: well, you exist as well. i could visit you too. ben, bingo, shin, mod idem. all of which would be a few hours travel, not a whole day each way.
asciilifeform: it dun have to be during a conference.
pete_dushenski: anyways, our mental representations of one another would indeed be fascinating. a motley assemblage of irc logs, blog posts, and various sm tidbits
asciilifeform: the participants were said to have been high school pupils, part of a tour group.
asciilifeform: i recall an article, ~5 or so years ago, in uni. of maryland newspaper, about a fight in uni library (!) over a deck of pokemon cards.
asciilifeform: they were having a convention of some kind
asciilifeform: 'it was invented! in a prison, south of the boooooorder, whereyaneed some help, to keep the badboyz away.....'
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-23#1527781 << pokemon cards were definitely a 'money' in elementary school. 'pogs' idem. there's always some collectible scraps ready to take the mantle, regardless of the age and locale. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-23#1527910 << you know the italians had a better one rite. ☝︎
diana_coman: apparently as a result of trips from the countryside with the pig carcass
diana_coman still recalls playing a "police game" which consisted roughly in driving the car across a small figuring and shouting: got another policeman!
mircea_popescu: yeah, and then if they caught you cutting a veal they'd lock you up!
mircea_popescu: a strange sort of im not even sure wtf it was. insulation foam.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 22:16 asciilifeform: << holy shit, ro of the period was a motherfucking india ?!
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 21:41 asciilifeform: znort987: rather, yes, there was provision for it in the original openpgp spec, but it is a bogus concept because it entails a global repository of revocation messages and a universal agreement re what time it presently is.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-23#1527876 << there's no practical way to "revoke" a key ; much like there's no practical way to make that british supreme court judge not stupid. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ' a bug can be anything '
asciilifeform: as per mircea_popescu's old piece 'a deal can be anything' --
asciilifeform: it became - think - a kind of dynamo, grunting against a short circuit.
mircea_popescu: sounds like a mp thing to say
asciilifeform: was it in a mircea_popescu article that i read 'rat does not know where he will eat, but knows that he ~will~ eat, and delights in the disjunction' ?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 17:32 asciilifeform: ' If ever there were a situation crying out for a smart contract - this is it.'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-23#1527621 << actually this is a situation specifically calling out for smart people, and exactly the opposite of calling out for "smart contracts" ☝︎
phf: they can deal with only so much complexity before they expect to receive a tasty morsel
trinque: went instead to "nuestra tierra" and ate a massive pile of seafood, drank muchas margaritas
asciilifeform: similar coat figured in a famous (in certain circles) duel b/w two drunken privates in ww2, fought with lendlease 'thompsons' ('.45' calibre)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually it was a very good coat. tough as nails.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell znort987 a) it's one part of what looks like 7 or 8 and b) for entomologist interest only.
asciilifeform: << holy shit, ro of the period was a motherfucking india ?! ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'which meant that out of a hundred or so kids eating in a large room, I was the one getting the chicken meat parts. Which I didn't like, nor ate, because they were inferior bits to what I normally chomped at home, and they consequently didn't interest me, notwithstanding that most of those children had never in their life eaten meat. Supposedly it was good for them, right ? Vegetarianism is the future and all that ?'
phf: because you don't need to place all rates into absolute order, you just need to order rates of a single person, then it's up to that person to choose which sequence they use. of course better to just keep own counter, but lazy people can rely on timestamp, and get screwed over from time to time
asciilifeform: which is why phf can buy airplane ticket and celebrate new year twice in a year.
asciilifeform: there is not a guarantee even of this
asciilifeform: it is not a thing to be done lightly.
asciilifeform: phf: when you make use of a timestamp, you are also asking ~other~ people to trust clock not to fuck ~them~ over.
asciilifeform: what do you do with a signature that took place after a revocation time, that you have ALREADY accepted as valid for some purpose ?
asciilifeform: and - do i need to draw a picture, or is this obvious ? - they are free to ignore it; or they may not even GET the message; and are guaranteed to get it, IF they get it, at different physical TIMES
asciilifeform: there is only a message, that you can transmit to other ~people~, politely asking 'please stop using this key'
phf: if it's keys signing keys then deedbot's ux is rediced to wotpaste urls to signed messages, and then deedbots role is to download/keep a history
asciilifeform: revocation is a ~promise~, in that there is not such a thing, and never will be such a thing, as a magical lever that instantly makes a key stop working. ☟︎
znort987: asciilifeform: yeah the timestamp of sigs in gpg has always felt like a sorely missing feature. but then I guess you'd need - idk - a blockchain to solve that particular problem I guess.
asciilifeform: znort987: rather, yes, there was provision for it in the original openpgp spec, but it is a bogus concept because it entails a global repository of revocation messages and a universal agreement re what time it presently is. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: znort987: key revocation is not actually a thing
asciilifeform: trinque: well it wouldn't make any sense as a deedbot component
asciilifeform: znort987: there is not - unfortunately - yet a fully decentralized (see 'gossipd' thread) wot mechanism. but there are at least 3 centralized wotrons. in order of age: -otc wot; kakobreklan ('assbot') wot; and #trilema wot.
znort987: so fully aware. also don't have a dog in this fight. like I said was trying to see how the wot worked and gave rating where I felt they were due
asciilifeform: znort987: are you familiar with how there came to be a #trilema ?
asciilifeform: n see a one thousand dollar bank note issued before 1900. That is why large size $1,000 bills are so rare today. If you were rich enough to see one, you were smart enough to not keep it. Currency didn't really become collectible until the 1950s. There was no reason to save a $1,000 bill. You were just losing out on the interest it could be earning.'
asciilifeform: 'It should go without saying that at the time when most $1,000 bills were printed that they were virtually unobtainable for the average American citizen. We are specifically talking about 1928 and 1934 notes. You can only imagine what kind of purchasing power a $1,000 bill had during the great depression. What is really amazing is that $1,000 bills were first issued during the 1860s. You would have to be extremely wealthy to ever eve
asciilifeform: ed examples should be worth face value. All other notes are definitely collectible. Some $1,000 bills can be worth several thousand dollars each. Your standard value for a generic note in lightly circulated condition is probably $1,600.'
mircea_popescu: a little vps is useful to have anyway. it's one of those things, like a shed. once you have it - uses abound.
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: it's better than my notebook :) I'm pretty sure my cleaning lady plugged the computer off. OK, you guys win, I'll pay a vps shit just to install this little shit.
mircea_popescu: felipelalli you're supposed to get a cheap vps and run znc there.
phf: because you couldn't really test strength against girl, that was inconceivable and those who tried were just weirdos (not to mention testing strength against girl the fuck), but if you managed to do a sneak drop
mircea_popescu: that was more of a summer thing though.
mircea_popescu: 10yo acceptable maneuvers re girls were a) throwing soft snowball (really hard iced ones were for boys only!) ; sticking snow behind neck but only if done with trickery (ie, if the girl was aware she's about to get it you couldn't do it) and finally pulling pants off. bonus points if also underwear.
mircea_popescu: phf that was a banned maneuver in my place.
mircea_popescu: the ~reason we monetized these was because a) we'd snowball the girls into little piles as soon as the snow came and b) we'd wrestle hundreds of times a day.
asciilifeform: in one of the american schools i went to as a kid, they had 'magic the gathering'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not sure. I am a young-ish.