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mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828135 << so far the question is whether adascheme or elips. ☝︎
asciilifeform: the pov where 'line of coad is asset!11' inescapably leads to this.
asciilifeform: ( tbf, not limited to open sores, e.g. microshit world is just such a katamari )
mircea_popescu: this is everything! this is everywhere! banzai pantsuit!
asciilifeform: with the 1 twist that in the nintendo game at least sometimes objects come loose and fall from the ball
asciilifeform: 'foss' 'development' follows the pattern illustrated in the old jp game 'katamari damacy' , where ball rolls around and picks up rusty nails, rubbish, people, dogs, trees, candy bars, etc
mircea_popescu: "nobody could have predicted" and therefore it doesn't occur to them how to clean it. and the politruks are helpfully there, "stop rape" and "code of conduct of incluisivity" and etc, expertly boiling the frogs.
mircea_popescu: which obviously is the universal palliative dream of the impotent.
mircea_popescu: Mocky it's not much, superficially, but it has a lot of downstream. because this is the ~fundamental~ rot of "foss" : that impotent dweebs latch on to it not because of the lofty theoretical goals, but strictly because of the very direct if unspoken power equation, "if i be friends with these guys then girls will be forced ot insert my penis in their vagina by themselves". ☟︎
trinque: recently did work experimenting with "just add water" kernels where the initramfs is (relatively) huge, but there is in fact a magic number limiting the size of in-built initramfs, dun recall what, but hit it in the few 100s of mb range
trinque: I build initramfsen by aiming portage at a custom PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT and ROOT, using a threadbare portage profile, can thereby slam down ebuilds in a chroot without having the whole of portage present in the chroot
asciilifeform: but this is not really an argument against it
asciilifeform: iirc busybox errs on the side of being spartan, breaks certain legacy duct tapes
trinque: asciilifeform: no reason to be more than busybox and here's your init shell script.
asciilifeform: modules make sense to have on a box where you're developing custom iron, and driver is fiddled with actively, and that's about it
trinque: place to mount say a squashfs as root, with overlay for ephemeral writes
asciilifeform: and overall trinque's approach to kernels is The Right Thing (i.e. nail down the iron, and switch off modules)
asciilifeform: trinque: really, i can't think of any genuine reason to keep initramfs; if box needs e.g. raid card driver, it oughta be compiled in kernel
trinque: (there will be a tool for initramfs-ism forthcoming, but there are very few situations where you actually need one)
trinque: however, if you're using genkernel, the script doesn't invoke that for you. it expects to be fed a kernel config bare
trinque: yep, there aren't any specific constraints on the kernel, other than the obvious "matched arch, abi, of userland root"
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 17:35 mircea_popescu: for a simple example, the default state is, "userbase rejects your merge" rather than "everyone please upgrade". that should give a decent idea of the flavour.
Mocky: this makes sense to me >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828287 ☝︎
asciilifeform: the one where 'what would you have in your house, if all you had to do is think of it'
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 17:31 mircea_popescu: i suppose i should translate that thing. unless anyone wants to practice their rofu first ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828282 << asciilifeform very definitely read that piece. but it might have been in the orig ro ☝︎
diana_coman: so then it would seem this is the best available option currently: asciilifeform can I have trinque's cuntoo on that machine when it's available? ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: trinque: luckily asciilifeform already baked kernel config for the type of machine diana_coman has ( tho it potentially can be further trimmed )
diana_coman: trinque, hm, the kernel config suitable for the hardware in principle exists already as it would be the same as it is for non-musltronic gentoo, or am I wrong here?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 17:28 diana_coman: trinque, if I understand it correctly, I could have a cuntoo right now and move later on to v-tree but a. there is some work to be done to configure it properly for the exact pizarro hardware b. it's unclear whether I'll be able to emerge (i.e. build musltronically) all the stuff I need ; correct?
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828275 << right. either now or later, you'll have to produce a kernel config suitable for your hardware, and provide that to the build script. and yes, there is the potential that somebody else hasn't yet provided musl patches for your dependencies, though there are more all the time. ☝︎
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1827984 << thanks! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: for a simple example, the default state is, "userbase rejects your merge" rather than "everyone please upgrade". that should give a decent idea of the flavour. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 15:56 Mocky: asciilifeform, re: rejects traditional concept of merge, to my eye this looks like 5 merges. are these non-traditional?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828045 << rejects the github implementation of merge, would have been the correct statement. yes you can alter code, but through a very different process, in places exactly opposite. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 17:04 mircea_popescu: which, incidentally, is why the pantsuit hate the "new right" or whatever they call it. all they see is the zimmerman-paddock party and get hives.
mircea_popescu: also, i misstated http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828225 ; i meant zimmerman-campos (the hotel's rentacop that hassled the dood into going live). ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i suppose i should translate that thing. unless anyone wants to practice their rofu first ? ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-19 20:52 mircea_popescu: it's not "oh, errybody has a rotten plank or two keeping'em afloat." it's "oh, everybody ~can manifest matter by will~, currently everybody hanging off the bare minimum rotten plank and they're not even COMPARED".
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 15:33 asciilifeform: Mocky: to function as a troo vtronicist, gotta grasp the concept, described by e.g. dijkstra, that a line of code you have written is not an asset, but an expense. (specifically, an expense against the time budget of other thinking people, who must read and grasp what you have written. )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828036 << this is a major point ; and goes directly to the bifurcation between http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-19#1827317 and http://trilema.com/2009/inchipuiti-va/ (original piece describing a world where things exist by power of mind and how it'd play out). ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 14:35 trinque: diana_coman: I have updated the script you last tried, such that it again works. What I have not completed is the v-tree which is to replace imperial portage.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/how-is-it-the-end/#selection-205.604-205.670 then.
diana_coman: trinque, if I understand it correctly, I could have a cuntoo right now and move later on to v-tree but a. there is some work to be done to configure it properly for the exact pizarro hardware b. it's unclear whether I'll be able to emerge (i.e. build musltronically) all the stuff I need ; correct? ☟︎
asciilifeform: ipadism really replacement for televism, rather than anything else.
a111: 0 results for "fathers fought to conquer", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=fathers%20fought%20to%20conquer
mircea_popescu: !#s fathers fought to conquer
mircea_popescu: as far as the crop of baaaas is concerned, 1800s america was a different country in a different land.
mircea_popescu: only thing penned in the past 3 months may be used in support of zek.
mircea_popescu: do you know when talking to stupid cunt (tm), her retort to "have you seen ken park" was "no, i was 9yo when it came out".
asciilifeform: i've yet to meet in the flesh a zek who actually thinks he's touched real money.
mircea_popescu: nothing from the 1800s may stand for today's zeks.
asciilifeform: 'st peter, you can't take me, for i can't go, i owe my soul to the company store'(tm)(r)(1890s amerischwitz) i dun think they necessarily confuse it.
mircea_popescu: how does one go about mistaking their pay slip for money ?
mircea_popescu: basically, "will drench this ship out of our own canteens, make sure it has water under keel"
mircea_popescu: this fragmenting thing they're doing is amusingly enough more helping reddit than they could have done if they were good redditors and "created" "content" for it.
asciilifeform: 'wriggle out of the conclusion while accepting form'
trinque: I only remember because nazi chick had big tits
asciilifeform: clone of clone, and who knows, maybe kangaroo nao instead of frog, i have not followed the subj
mircea_popescu: wait, there was also a voat, is this that ?
trinque: some derp put a frog on a twitter clone and that was that.
asciilifeform: today not even needs pea shooters; e.g. weev et al successfully occupied with escape 'censored' r-reddit to alt-alt-r-reddit etc
mircea_popescu: certainly. as the gears grind to a halt, more and more of the imperial gdp is leaked to distracting the barbarians.
asciilifeform: hence, for instance, clinton's creation of 'militias' to send the r-reddit folx to play with pea shooters, rather than chancing their discovery of effective low-tech monkey wrenches (e.g. gas)
mircea_popescu: indeed. and for this very reason. monkey feels like it has produced intellectual work for having been visually exhausted.
asciilifeform: really whole root of 'guiism' is to give the monkey a harmless object to manipulate, like hamster is given wheel
mircea_popescu: hysterically enough, this is actually a line by felini. in zampano literally says, "it's the optic nerve that does all the work"
mircea_popescu: it's exactly like old pedophile rubbing the desk in court during testimony of kids he rubbed at home. just, mechanically, how it works.
mircea_popescu: the ~driver~ of the behaviour is exactly 1. now we're doing serious business edumancation which is thought ; 2. activity not involving the optic nerve doesn't feel like having thought ; 3. clicks through captics all while
mircea_popescu: and hence natural masturbatory activity of the sort described in http://trilema.com/2012/the-imbecilitarians/#selection-317.0-317.109
mircea_popescu: because their thoughtmeter is really taping the optic nerve.
mircea_popescu: so visual, in fact, that unless there's a gui with icons to cluck at, they don't have ~the subjective impression~ of having thought.
asciilifeform: even these did not exist in the necessary mass, the 1st clinton had to create'em ( for waco etc )
mircea_popescu: you gotta appreciate, pantsuits are very visual thinkers.
mircea_popescu: an evolution (albeit slight) of the 1990s era pantsuit-imagined-enemy, the subersive-exterminator. this guy : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a84gLEew8m4
asciilifeform: y'know, sorta how there wasn't actually a 'communist underground' in the last reich, just that luxembourg chix who got guillotined with buncha other derps
mircea_popescu: yes, this is exactly it : redditor-rentacops.
mircea_popescu: and then go about tapping trayvon on the shoulder as he's going home after fucking jennifer senseless.
asciilifeform: ( considering that there isn't actually such a thing as 'new right', but in reality buncha folx who read r-reddit in place of l-reddit )
mircea_popescu: i don't think so.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: doubt that it's so specific; afaik they see it as simply a large underground bag into which they've driven errything with even half a ball remaining, 'could do anyffing!1'
mircea_popescu: which, incidentally, is why the pantsuit hate the "new right" or whatever they call it. all they see is the zimmerman-paddock party and get hives. ☟︎
trinque: the thing builds up as an escape fantasy. "that'll be the day"
asciilifeform: 'later', 'later', then suddenly 'must nao'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: most of the reported 'postal' derps to date seem to follow this pattern
mircea_popescu: and the case'd absolutely have been another chickening out, in my respected and respectable professional oppinion as the only left psychologist speaking this language, had not a very george zimmerman-like character (white male redditor-rentacop) jiggled at his door with his pretense to matter.
mircea_popescu: suicidy emo chick isn't "rehearsing" with the pills.
mircea_popescu: they weren't "rehearsals", they were chickening outs.
mircea_popescu: depressives are broken in the typical consumer fashion, "either right now or not at all"
mircea_popescu: he didn't have teh skills.
asciilifeform: iirc was moar of a sprayer than aimer type
mircea_popescu: it's a terrible bit of chinesium, too.
mircea_popescu: wasn't the butt, plastic attachment over the trigger thing
asciilifeform: recently it was invoked , in a ban on whatever peculiarly shaped rifle butt was found in the las vegas postal, supposedly 'bounces off shoulder and shoots illicitly faster'
mircea_popescu: https://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/ATF-shoestring-machine-gun-2004.jpg for the record.
asciilifeform: ( 'we found an old rifle in his closet, and a shoestring, if he were to tie it to the bolt like-so...' )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1827957 << yeah, this dun seem workable. ☝︎
asciilifeform: or, on the other side of the kangaroo courthouse, the infamous 'shoestring machinegun' cases, etc.
asciilifeform: ( sorta how you see sentences for '10kg of lsd', which has never existed and probably will never exist on planet earth; they weigh whatever reagents, incl water ) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: helps the whole "nobus child porn" thing, "if we didn't cheat here we'd cheat down the line" sorta anal children "arguments".