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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you give a damn re exception-propagation speed, prolly oughta measure that. otherwise seems like the docs didn't lie, it dun do anyffin to ordinary jump
a111: Logged on 2019-02-13 21:40 diana_coman: since it seems it'll take a while until I can add to my data the numbers for sjlj on ave1's gnat as well, here's what I have so far: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/1esL2/?raw=true
a111: Logged on 2019-02-13 23:43 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these folx seem to have a psychiatrically-classical 'царь-батюшка' imaginary friendship w/ trump
a111: Logged on 2019-02-14 00:35 mircea_popescu: it's well dented lol. their whore hr was ~this girl.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-30 17:41 mircea_popescu: but yes, alladin carries a pretty fucking strong scent of "oh, hi, we're ohioan squarejaws wearing bedsheets. totally legit rome sir. rome, ohio."
asciilifeform must agree with mircea_popescu , diggin' up dead cultures is job entirely unfit for 'amateurism', risks result similar to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-30#1876443 ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd like to learn one day the seekrit of just how did the finns stuff selves up own arse in '90s
asciilifeform wouldn't be terribly surprised if one day mircea_popescu digs up the wreckage of an attempted 'trilema' that was run in e.g. classical greek , tho
a111: Logged on 2019-02-14 00:22 asciilifeform: strictly re chix -- in '90s chechen harems filled up with chix from ru, on exactly same scheme of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-13#1895936 . but 'social media'ism not invented yet then, so the publication crown afaik goes to mircea_popescu .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didja ever find out whether that branch tentacle ended up closing shop on acct of the escape ?
a111: Logged on 2019-02-13 23:57 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform specifically : a) female b) moving away from femstate to c) patriarchy [where to happily live in d) new status and e) social media announcement of this that f) really insanely bothers femstate remnants]
asciilifeform: strictly re chix -- in '90s chechen harems filled up with chix from ru, on exactly same scheme of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-13#1895936 . but 'social media'ism not invented yet then, so the publication crown afaik goes to mircea_popescu . ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-14 00:00 mircea_popescu: head of nominally private raytheon nevertheless will defect to great acclaim.
asciilifeform: on top of this, backbone of bureaucracy is reddit-fat / old bags, these are safe from mircea_popescuation as i understand
asciilifeform: ( i suppose could empty it of chix, if there were 9000 mircea_popescu's , but there's exactly 1, at least in my light cone )
asciilifeform: to rewrite the eqn, how many nicoleci's would mircea_popescu have to lure off, to visibly dent the thing
a111: Logged on 2019-01-18 16:52 mircea_popescu: what've "they" fucking accomplished yet, with their ever-so-clever scapegoating merry-go-round ? economy flats around the ugliest, shittiest town in all of europe, and 12yos who'd rather be raped & set on fire by pakis than talk to "her majesty"'s clerks ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suspect ~100% of'em would defect if anyone gave enuff of a shit to offer.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-03 20:19 mircea_popescu: also, anyone own aged/trusted accounts on BlackHatWorld TrafficPlanet WarriorForum DigitalPoint SitePoint they might wish to sell or share ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i get this part. the q is , where is the equiv of fetlife that is to get this treatment.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-28 22:27 mircea_popescu: and i do mean ~every single last one~. i talk to every single chick on fetlife, meaning EVERY SINGLE ONE. that's the job of existence. nothing else passes muster.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-12 19:26 mircea_popescu: i expect if attempted it'll immediately run into the same problem pizarro is encountering, whereas bois will do ANYTHING WHATSOEVER, no matter how patently stupid and laughing impending beheading in the face, just as long as it's NOT "talk to a lot of people".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: plox to expand this binomial for asciilifeform -- who are 'the individuals' ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these folx seem to have a psychiatrically-classical 'царь-батюшка' imaginary friendship w/ trump ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i since looked, and it doesn't
a111: Logged on 2019-02-13 18:37 diana_coman: with no optimization (or -O0 iirc) it's ~8s; with -O3 it's 1.25s
asciilifeform: the only hit is x86_64-linux-musl/share/info/mpc.info -- a readme
diana_coman: on hold atm since a. for sjlj on smg.test yes, need gnat rebuild b. for the rest it's unclear if it's worth to run or which ones so rather pending mircea_popescu feedback
asciilifeform: diana_coman: sleep, and i expect the output will come out before you wake up. meanwhile i'ma see if i can figure out wtf re the paths.
asciilifeform: aa its sleep time in diana_comanistan aint it
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: after mircea_popescu nitpicks, perhaps this oughta be used as a template for others
asciilifeform not picking on diana_coman out of sadism, simply had nfi how to parse that line
a111: Logged on 2019-02-13 18:41 diana_coman: anyways, I'll compile the dataset and publish it in a bit
asciilifeform: diana_coman: on the old gnat -- seems like 0 detectable diff b/w the variants ?!
diana_coman: specifically, here's an example (with the path marked by me for clarity): build/build-bootstrap/gcc-4.9.adacore2016/build1/mpc/src/libmpc.la:dependency_libs=' OLD_PATH/lib/libgmp.la NEW_PATH_CORRECT/lib/libgmp.la'
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this may even be the culprit behind ( still unresolved afaik ) http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-03#1820460 ☝︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this is quite puzzling, esp. since i've built ave1's gnat on 1 box, and since copied to handful of others, on each into an entirely diff dir
diana_coman: ave1 or anyone else more experienced in rebuilding ave1's gnat with a previous incarnation of same: I'm trying to build using the scripts in ada-musl-cross-2018-09-24.tgz on a machine that has as only existing and perfectly working !) gnat a previous ave1 gnat version; I ran as the readme says simply ./build-ada.sh absolute_path_to_dir but the whole thing fails because it doesn't find some libs such as libgmp.la; a closer look at the outpu
a111: Logged on 2019-02-13 14:49 diana_coman: wait, what?
asciilifeform: ( ftr all 'canonical' ffa tests are built with o2 : http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch16_miller_rabin.kv/tree/ffa/libffa/ffa.gpr#L56 )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: plox clarify what means 'fully optimized for time' here
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I found the key misunderstanding there (in addition to comparing different machines and all that): the 1.25value is when serpent is fully optimised for time i.e. it goes from ~8s to 1.25 for full 22 loops 1..10, mod 4; sorry for the confusion there, I was still in exploration mode.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I think it was a mis-communication really
mircea_popescu: well now i have to step out ; diana_coman do some more experiments, get some more data, we gotta figure out wtf this is.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is why i like 'run 9000 shots, and discard outliers' (granted this only applies when the item is expected to go in constant time, goes without saying)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly was 'the peak of insanity'
asciilifeform: ( why -- cannot say until diana_coman returns with brief description of the irons )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 50
asciilifeform: diana_coman , when come back, plox to briefly describe the box
asciilifeform: diana_coman, mircea_popescu : all of above is still just the baseline (no longjmpism) case ?
a111: Logged on 2019-02-13 14:24 diana_coman: asciilifeform, one! and look here at times: 1 loop -> 0.000168893 s ; 2 loops -> 0.007213758 s ; 3 loops -> 0.351611073 s ; 4 loops -> 17.74 s ; 5 loops-> 879.95 s
mircea_popescu: diana_coman the problem is this : on the basis of this last run, we're estimating serpent to take 0.3 microseconds.
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 3.00168991089e-07
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i think it's plenty long. why not long ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman how the fuck many loops are there ? 22 ?
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 6.00337982178e-07
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 1.50084495544e-07
mircea_popescu: diana_coman imo perfect. now do lj
mircea_popescu: diana_coman try whole 23 loops, same 1 to 10 mod 4 plox ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman seems it stabilizes after 3 loops or so, if you look, it's within a few % with .007s and pretty much there at 0.35s
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 8388608
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 94143178827
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 2097152
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 312500000
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 2.81584e-06
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 2.8384e-06
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 2.812888584e-06
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 2.8855032e-06
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 3.37786e-06
mircea_popescu: diana_coman idea was to go twice per loop, rather than 1nce. 2 will go in too many times still
mircea_popescu: diana_coman a through j ; for 1 to 10 mod 4 plox.
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 59049
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 2097152
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 4398046511104
mircea_popescu: diana_coman you'll have to abort it, reduce the loops significantly. sorry bout that.
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 311973482284542380586661606802325504
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman darn, i utterly miscalculated it. does
diana_coman: hence my original only 3 loops really; but mircea_popescu asked for the full set of 23 loops so there it is, still running
asciilifeform: diana_coman: day+ ?! is this just 1 shot of benchmark, or many ?
diana_coman: basic test including serpent + test project with full set of loops : ossasepia.com/available_resources/ljmp_test.tar
a111: Logged on 2019-02-12 23:41 mircea_popescu: i'm still waiting for diana_coman to return.
hanbot: mircea_popescu dyou mean http://trilema.com/2018/in-which-a-bizarre-character-wanks-it/ ?
a111: Logged on 2015-02-02 06:39 mircea_popescu: Daryush Valizadeh,[1] (born June 14, 1979)[2] also known as Roosh V and Roosh Vorek, is an American[3] writer, pick-up artist5 and self-styled "love tourist"[6] of Iranian and Armenian descent,[7] known for his writings on seduction and antifeminism.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: negation << >> 'нет ни хуя' etc
a111: Logged on 2016-06-21 01:18 mircea_popescu: "mult stimate ion caciula, om al muncii fara scula : cit ai degete si limba, legea tarii nu se schimba."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thinking about it -- 'zxc' strikes me as a classic case of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-25#1866191 and impedence mismatch generally. it was clearly written as attempt to 'deterministic scheduler on ??? iron/os', but fails, cuz you can't actually spackle away impedence mismatch b/w the underlying platform and the proggy ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i'm still waiting for diana_coman to return. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't specifically know, but suspect that the eggog happens when parent thread dies and (for moment) the children keep fandangoing
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if (and only if) yer scheduler actually runs on the naked iron, a 'polled' sys gives ~less~ nondeterminism than a fully asynchronous one. but nobody's got this iron of yet.
mircea_popescu: if there's a mechanism in computing that's supposed to be push not pull, that's exceptions. can't fucking have a pull mechanism for exception handling, and i see 0 gaisn from moving the honest braindamage of "if ZCX_By_Default then return;" into an elaborately & contrivedly hidden same exact thing.
asciilifeform: bvt: rright. my observation is, it aint suitable for a general-purpose kill switch , the prob orig. posed by mircea_popescu , cuz polled mode can only give ability to kill items which 'agreed' to be killable
bvt: ^ i got some really weird results here, would appreciate if someone tested the last snippet (constraint_error) on ave1's gnat.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-10#1886261 incident ? ☝︎
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: In early february you paid the Janaury invoice issued in Janaury. It's the case you've come into post paying, but on the strength of your being mircea_popescu I have not found reason to be alarmed or fuss.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: would work
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: February
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: believe or not, there are ancient moldy irons without interrupt controllers.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-12 18:29 diana_coman: for added lulz, gnat on macos has only zcx :|
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: good chance to fill the stack