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g_l: I don't know how you expect to get there without going through a complete CLX backend first.
asciilifeform: well i'd be potentially interested in a sane clim made by sane folk
g_l: well, I got a (major) donor to pester him and suddenly all the talk of "backends" disappeared.
asciilifeform: ultimately all of the animals on a farm exist for same reason.
asciilifeform: and only for so long as the smoke hangs in the air (when there is in fact a set of keys-that-could-have-signed)
asciilifeform: davout: 'ring signatures' are not the promised 'invisibility cloak', but more of a smoke grenade. ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: <thestringpuller> depends on if he's a nuclear physicist pretending to be a plumber or vice versa. << More plumbers lay hand on reactor parts than physicists
BingoBoingo: <Framedragger> OT: i don't suspect anyone's got any suggestions for a wordpress theme to use (minimalist, gonna be ~3 pages in total, no comment box) for showcasing a newly published (non-electronic) book? << Toolbox. Just delete the comment boxes and other shit. Small theme so easy to fidn everything you want/need to delete.
BingoBoingo: <Framedragger> OT: i don't suspect anyone's got any suggestions for a wordpress theme to use (minimalist, gonna be ~3 pages in total, no comment box) for showcasing a newly published (non-electronic) book? << Toolbox!
Framedragger: afk for a bit
Framedragger: it's a design decision - a laudible one, sure
Framedragger: asciilifeform: trb and mpex don't make themselves easy to be used by everyone. which YES is a great thing. but it's not because an angelic light shines upon them, repelling all evil.
asciilifeform: davout: i took an interest in fluffypony's thing a while back, and did not especially like what i found.
davout: asciilifeform: if you see a lump of steel covered in flies, you brush the flies off and go use that steel for whatever it is you need steel for, no?
Framedragger: not saying it's a very good signal
asciilifeform: and if that doesn't do the trick, consider when object is covered in a pound of flies, does it remain an open question whether it is good to eat ?
Framedragger: why the fuck is everything a honeypot to you. the technology is interesting for what it's worth. they're leveraging i2p which is interesting if not unquestionable. iirc fluffypony is the project lead list
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/GtLj7 << turns out that fluffypony has been a busy, busy honeybee since leaving us.
asciilifeform: so first i'd get a raw pixel, then - a thing defining a spline inside the glyph, then a glyph, then a character (in the lisp sense), then the routine which produced it..
g_l: When fixed one can program entirely in CLIM. I've fixed up the debugger to eval in frame, added a 'reflective apropos'
g_l: The "text ghosting" issue has been fixed. We (finally) have a quality test case for the final error.
asciilifeform: showstopping how ? i built and ran a stock clim in 2007.
asciilifeform: because i happen to know that clim was a thing, and worked, so to speak, before.
g_l: If you don't want the font engine crap, make a new font engine. This is very much doable by a single man.
asciilifeform: or do we now arbitrarily get to cut a problem down to where all of the actual moving parts are somehow 'elsewhere' ?
g_l: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-30#1531840 < CLIM fits-in-head, and the final showstopping error (X11 related crap) has been reduced to a simple test case, and is in the process of being solved. ☝︎
asciilifeform: fire is a greater fear than leak, today just as in 1700.
mircea_popescu: it's not a thoroughly unreasonable way to go about it, "what if we spring a leak ?"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when i toured a ww2 submarine museum-ship, i learned that on board there were steel plates, with matching holes, to bolt to the hatchways when doing a planned dive, in case the hatches leak. somehow i find it hard to picture modern american sailors doing any such thing. osha would have a fit.
mod6: i sure as hell didn't wanna have to go back there though for lack of a "good sample".
mod6: but hard to take such a person srsly.
asciilifeform: usually a flunkie does this
mod6: she took this blood sample from a "spider bite" of some sort on my hip, dropped it on the floor.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-30#1531916 << to briefly revisit subj, i would happily buy a ticket to visit the planet where there are actual engineers, doctors, etc. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: why ? i'm not that great a fan of the sea.
asciilifeform: well for that matter i have trouble picturing a mircea_popescu circa 1700 anywhere other than on proper pirate ~ship~
asciilifeform: and when something cannot be plundered, one is stuck with what can be produced on a pirate ship.
mircea_popescu: trust algos are a suspect field.
asciilifeform: this is a consistent algo, and has history, but also obvious limitations.
mircea_popescu: "oh but if i had a better car then definitely gf", sayz elliot. and i'm sure he's right hurr.
asciilifeform: engineer should be also a capitalist, ought to build ships for his own use instead of some jew's ?
asciilifeform: conquest in the 'now they'll work all day for half a bowl of rice and an opium cig' sense ?
asciilifeform: so why does it surprise mircea_popescu if folks won't follow a heuristic that was devised in a world which no longer exists ..?
mircea_popescu: now then. giving intelligent people a tool to break idiots from the social fold (ie, money) results in all sorts of minimums off the wealth-curve (very much like the schroedinger equation, this) being cut off, resulting in more money, resulting in more ships, resulting in conquering china.
mircea_popescu: find a much better blueprint in circumscribed circumstances than the heuristic would provide (the circumstance has to always be limited because otherwise complexity explosion - which yields the principal problem of capitalism, ie disintergration (as the term of art)).
mircea_popescu: look, it's not my fault that a) they misapplied the model and b) you bought into it.
mircea_popescu: this of course comes with a corresponding responsibility of smart people to not be fucking retards, but hey.
asciilifeform: 'motivation from fear is a firecracker, from interest - a nuke' as the americans used to say ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i dun think it ever took me more than a few days to pay for a month of costa rica or whatever, and this if i was particularly persuaded by the "don't eat from capitals" balabusta angle that month.
thestringpuller: (not a good one)
thestringpuller: It was a joke :P
thestringpuller: depends on if he's a nuclear physicist pretending to be a plumber or vice versa.
asciilifeform: would you pay a man to build reactor if his toilet ~never works ?
asciilifeform: this is a mega-observation, and summarizes why i have 0 interest in involvement in non-tmsr 'open sores' ever again.
mircea_popescu: (pro tip, if your idea is "but mp, tor was actually built by nsa, this thing is just built by some random poor people" you lose at life. what the fuck, the socialists observe propriety lines now ? the whole world was made by their hunchback of a god and gave to them as a gift dontchaknow.)
asciilifeform: i'm willing to bet that if phf's creation were sat down on a reasonably ~sane~ lisp system, e.g., sbcl, it would run stably.
asciilifeform: (he wrote a cl vtron and possibly other items)
asciilifeform: just blade. you hold it with a towel.
asciilifeform: i will also point out (and i have entire, lol, www, devoted to subj) that lisp on x86 pc is a sword without a hilt.
mircea_popescu: a sharp knife will do that, yes. the cursed sword of japan also.
asciilifeform: and 1,000,001 before him. a sharp knife will do that.
mircea_popescu: you lot have a lot in common with adolescent girls, you know this ?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger for a small thing like that which will stay small you're best served by spitting out html.
Framedragger: OT: i don't suspect anyone's got any suggestions for a wordpress theme to use (minimalist, gonna be ~3 pages in total, no comment box) for showcasing a newly published (non-electronic) book?
asciilifeform: also who the hell puts a price on a ???.
asciilifeform: i assumed that if i were to call him up with a 'i need an x before next tuesday' he will say 'pay y btc'
asciilifeform: where did he offer a 'marriage' in the 'we'll do... for all time' sense ?
asciilifeform: so, say rupture farms pays laddel to write'em a climtronic reactor control panel.
mircea_popescu: anyway, as a business strategy thing : throwing away 20k to see maybe a group of these "intelligent" retarded kids can get their shit together or not is one thing. oyu may do it or not, but if you do it it's because there's a definite cap on your exposure. even so - it'll be rare.
asciilifeform: dunno if this is a very useful term re 'open sores support' business
asciilifeform: do i understand the term correctly ? whitelabel is something one does with a turnkey (e.g., air compressor) item
asciilifeform: nah, in the sense that someone, somewhere, would 'hey i need a climization of proggy, who shall i call...'
mircea_popescu: i suppose it's how this whole "online" thing worked for ever and ever : "corporate" creates a baited hook ; "consumer" mistakes baited hook for fish, gives his trust to google and his data to facebook. what am i, fucken retarded ?!
asciilifeform: but it looks like gabriel_laddel was speaking of 'clim support' as a type of plumbing service, which presumably he offers.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160830/from:158/to:158#158 << it's not clear to me what "clim support" does for a website ; i am certainly not going to expend marketing resources on some item i don't own. this last bit is particularly pernicious, incidentally - is this clim thing even breaking the law ? why the fuck am i supposed to confuse a bunch of usg-tools for my own men ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160830/from:149/to:149#149 << eh, you're thinking of some meta-enemy that lives in a parallel universe where different laws apply.
gabriel_laddel: The tardstalks who put the "commercial support" section on the McCLIM website at the very end of a page for developers (lol: https://common-lisp.net/project/mcclim/involve) will probably take several months to organize. They don't english very well, and someone who does will have quite the advantage.
gabriel_laddel: If anyone wants to be WAY ahead of the curve, now would be the time to update your websites stating that you offer CLIM support / build CLIM programs aor start a marketing campaign.
gabriel_laddel: jackdaniel just submitted a working hack around the last showstopping McCLIM bug.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-30 05:16 mircea_popescu: the idea in both cases is that data storage depends on a very fixed relationship between geometry and magnetic substrate. breaking that (such as through boiling plastic, or cracking glass) is as good an approach as any "direct" method, and what's more stacks with any direct method.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-30#1531726 << if enemy finds a small fragment of modern hdd... it may well have 100s of MB, quite readable ☝︎
Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160829/from:606/to:606#606 << something like this? (default font, i'm not a fan of blitzy web69.0 fonts, either). i'll have some time to write the link citation part for the bot, as well as search, too. won't be today though
mircea_popescu: the idea in both cases is that data storage depends on a very fixed relationship between geometry and magnetic substrate. breaking that (such as through boiling plastic, or cracking glass) is as good an approach as any "direct" method, and what's more stacks with any direct method. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: to clarify mod6 : the boiling in tomato juice is a joke/throwback to the old days, when this was the way to dispose of flexible disks (esp the 5 inch ones), where the magnetic zone stands on some cheapo plastic. hard drives haven't used that style of platter for many years now, it's usually doped glass these days. boiling that doesn't do much of anything, but you can just crack the platters with a hammer/wrench whatever.
BingoBoingo: <mod6> not sure if i saw that one. will follow up with a blowtorch << Give more time with the heat.
mircea_popescu: phf got a lot to learn about the practical side of these things it turns out.
trinque: makes a sort of primal sense
trinque: also, apparently the way to restart a111 is to give the www a good dicking?
mircea_popescu: "Earlier in the week I had taken screenshots of our Trello task board (Jessica was changing it around to make it look like I did nothing)" <<< ahahaha fucking idiot kids. "start-up", puts the motherloade of confidential/business matter on rando social media site. back at reality ranch, do that and you're fired, and you have to hire a lawyer. but in california idiot parade, they think it's about as standard as bottled water.
mod6: i used a sanding block with low grit, grinded each face both directions real good.
mircea_popescu: bonus points, what got her mind blown wasn't the team of dorks with nary a clue, but that "no one had a whiteboard session". cuz gotta be chinese, what.
mod6: not sure if i saw that one. will follow up with a blowtorch
mircea_popescu: in other mainstream media news, "Join the great illuminati fatality cult today, I am agent Smith,A fully Agent of this fatality,i"
pete_dushenski: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-weekend-shootings-violence-police-homicide-391560381.html << someone ordered a turkish wedding in chitown huh.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: furthermore, 1/4 of net worth (net inheritance) on suits, shades, and whips is a poboy move if ever there was one. tis tres gauche given the kid's apparent class position.
pete_dushenski: your battlestation is a perfect example of this.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: other points of linked m3icle: example of 'assets' into which 'great divestment' was beneficiary (others: ru bonds?), and also eg of btc sale beyond 'us marshalls' fraud - more than just using usgpuppet to move coinz from a-->b in exchange for ~chance~ at lizardposting
asciilifeform: i have nfi re elsewhere, but here in the land of the phreeee, if you have a car and it is seen on public streets, there will be tax questions
asciilifeform: had a buncha x, traded them for a y. big fat deal.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i read the linked piece and do not understand what was interesting. kakobrekla also bought a car with btc.