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asciilifeform: so i know what they look like.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i did a tour of duty in the most godforsaken imaginable salt mine full of ex-nsa folk. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: so i come back, wall of alf.
asciilifeform: and i won't even bother summarizing, e.g., 'OpenPGP for Android, Web and Windows'
asciilifeform: i bet it will eat.
phf: i thought you said "what is on the agenda", i spent a few minutes trying to interpret those subjects in a nefarios way
asciilifeform: 'It's not at all what I described in my PRNG paper, but I can't tell if that's an accident or by design because, well, there are no code comments. What the GnuPG code does is mix the next 64 bytes and then overwrite the preceding 20 bytes with the mixed output, however this doesn't propagate any entropy along through the buffer.'
asciilifeform: 'I _might_ have introduced the hole to mix in more bytes in each step. Or it was a plain bug.' -- koch.
phf: i should line up some louis de funès movies
mircea_popescu: hanbot here you go : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxIHu9an9_g (and i bet you know it.)
hanbot: oh i saw that in kindergarten (NO.)
mircea_popescu: incidentally, speaking of "medieval" organs, everyone knows the hysterical "notre dame des courants d'air" scene i trust ?
asciilifeform: so yes, i would happily offload the 45 shells to 50 people.
phf: i always sort of assumed that harmoniums were brought to india by traveling european bums, as an approximation of motherland culture, and stuck
mircea_popescu: i suppose there is merit to this point, which is to say, "nutty central command economy mp wouldn't have ever come up with harmoniums, because they are stupid."
mircea_popescu: i guess.
asciilifeform: because 'i'ma play the organ and fuck y'all', approximately.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: was my point. concert organists dun have 'i gotta pump with this other hand' problems.
asciilifeform: (neighbours in my old flat were 'hari krishna' weirdos, and so i unfortunately became very closely familiar with this instrument.)
mircea_popescu: well i do think it's pretty stupid, other than for the endearing/cultural value.
mircea_popescu: i dun wear glasses.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's eyeglasses would not work on mircea_popescu either, i suspect.
asciilifeform: and i enjoy coming back to actual workstation that is set up just-so, correctly.
asciilifeform: 'i picked this up, now won't throw out' ?
asciilifeform: i.e. 'not from a good life.'
asciilifeform: now i just have one 'big red button' for'em.
asciilifeform: hanbot: i used to turn'em on/off, had entire switchboard for this, then noticed that IT is a timesink...
hanbot: i use multiple panels but keep those i'm not actively looking at turned off. otherwise i can actually perceive time being wasted mulling between them.
mircea_popescu: but if i add panels, i tend to also add boxes for them.
mircea_popescu: PeterL the discussion was "tiling wm" specifically. and i said, exactly, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-19#1525580 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 12:40 mircea_popescu: so on other news, i am writing teh republic's "cia factbook", and on the matter of gdp i would like to have an estimate of the "fair market value of the total time donated to republic during 2015" in the estimation of everyone involved. detailed is better, but nothing over a page omg.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-19#1525034 << FOr me just crib their formula. 37.5 x 52 to get 2015's hours. I have now idea how to count them all but certainly over. ☝︎
asciilifeform: PeterL: i have tiles-on-multiple-displays. not importantly different.
asciilifeform: and if it is in a low-priority corner of peripheral vision, i can ignore.
asciilifeform: it is one of the reasons i have the panels
mircea_popescu: i have some notifications, but the penalty for fucking with it idly is indeed high.
asciilifeform: i also have 0 notifications.
phf: fwiw my entire system is poll based. i literally don't have any notifications, all are disabled. "i look when i look"
mircea_popescu: i look when i look.
mircea_popescu: i dunno.
asciilifeform: i don't actually disagree with ^
mircea_popescu: i just did ? or what ?
PeterL: I typically have lowest ~inch of irc visible with something else on top of it to work on
asciilifeform: i'm not interested in having ONE scroll and a bunch of 'something changed, MAYBE YOU SHOULD CHECK' blinkers.
asciilifeform: i simply do the work of switching, when i switch, using EYES
asciilifeform: phf: likewise, i do not actually deal with the separate streams simultaneously !
mircea_popescu: i tell you though, whenever i came into the office of some dude who was literally fucking around with 45 different pieces of paper at the same time, i wouldn't think "oh this guy is such a super hero" but rather "ok, this guy's getting fired first."
mircea_popescu: phf not like i'm saying it's verboten. heck, i fuck around with ipads on occasion. but sin does not change doctrine.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i am not interested in glomming 45 shells into one soup pot.
mircea_popescu: ~same as heroin, in practice. "oh i feel so good and relaxed"
phf: mircea_popescu: i work a lot better with your method, but i also sometimes like to manually drag windows around in a particular arrangement as a sort of distracted busy work. the only usecase i found for tiling wm is "full screen everything"
phf: actually i had best results with multiple logs in a single file, color coded. it gives you also better understanding of time relationship between events
asciilifeform: why the fuck would i want it in a single file
mircea_popescu: i am seriously sitting here flipping between log and xchat, and i wouldn't care to do it another way.
asciilifeform: phf: dafuq i want with 'find a square somewhere'. i want this scrolling log RIGHT HERE, on display #3, under the other log for other boxes, and this one gets 2cm because it is not esp. important.
phf: laying out terminals is nice, but i prefer how fvwm did it. "find a square of screen realestate, where i can fit it, with some tolerance"
mircea_popescu: "i don't need grenade pin safety for anything" "put grenade in your ass, pull it out by pin and write back"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i've yet to use a "non-full-screen window" for anything. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i won't use anything but a tiling wm.
asciilifeform: when i dig for the essential core of some proggy with version history going back to '90s, typically i walk away with distinct feeling that reading the post-2003 or so tarballs was entire waste of time.
asciilifeform: i dun get it
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 17:04 phf: you just forgot how it was in '98. you now have wider range of available shit, so it's the snr that has changed. there was definitely a peak free software where available range also had max hacker value, i.e. intangible quality of buildable, inspectable, etc. but before that free software was kind of shit with a lot of dyi required.
mircea_popescu: can i has titpic ?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 16:56 phf: well, i'm more interested in mechanics of it all, since i don't believe in lizard hitler. do thugs of both camps meet at the canteen and measure each other up? are they going to embrace mutual scam wholeheartedly? are they going to try and undermine each other in subtle ways?
mats: asciilifeform: i recall a 'belgacom' operation perpetrated by uk
asciilifeform: https://youtu.be/pEp9d1bUTec?t=13m06s << aaaand mr o reads, i suspect, the l0gz.
mats: anyways, i await next chapter of snowden-ru cooperation, where they leak evidence of usg direct action against civilian nato target
thestringpuller: mats: i'm cheap so yea. I guess that's my future - "Mo' Money, Mo' Problems"
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i guess police are like dogs. throw a bone in one direction, do activity in different direction.
thestringpuller: it's getting to that point :( never thought I'd have to have proxies for such an activity back in 2012
thestringpuller: I'm like highly convinced someone is gonna roll up on us one day and just take the cash.
thestringpuller: Oh I do. I just have not found a way to transfer BTC to cash and back without meeting someone in person.
asciilifeform: i am not the first to observe this.
thestringpuller: mats: i'm actually more worried about going to jail for buying bitcoin /w cash than I am anything else I do that's considered criminal activity.
mats: asciilifeform: if i'm remembering these acronyms correctly, that last thing doesn't ave anything to do with windows
thestringpuller: i guess prosecutor didn't want to go up against an actual scientist...
asciilifeform: first time i hear of defendant admitted as expert witness.
thestringpuller: well old mentor of mine found sleep to be his number one enemy. so he decided to just be on stimulants 24/7 and sleep minimally while staying up late programming assembly code or some non-sense. d00d is as insane as he is smart. okay anyhow he bought this condo, and at the time he was a Ph.D candidate and was like "Meth is awesome I hate sleep!"
asciilifeform: i don't recall it in the logz
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: did I ever tell you the story of how my old college mentor, got raided for Meth. And somehow through self representation was able to get the charges reduced to misdemeanors?
asciilifeform: so, as i understand, if arrestee were carrying extract in his pocket, and it were to rain, and the water pools in the pocket... he will be tried for entire mass, original + rainwater.
asciilifeform: i found the detail interesting because usg exempts itself by decree from conservation of mass...
thestringpuller: mats: I know. It makes me sad. They just want everyone to be dumb :(
mats: i'm not responsible for the war on science, just telling you its a thing
thestringpuller: I have asthma so for me personally less irritatoin on lungs for greater affect. I use it medicinally in combination with other focus medications.
PeterL: yeesh, I wouldn't want to consume something extracted with butane!
thestringpuller: So I'm finally interested in chemistry and now there is a war on science?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 17:25 mats: this item looks like something i saw in an amateur chemist's setup, guy was making 'wax', thc concentrates
PeterL: whenever I used soxhlet, I clean by dumping copious amounts of solvent into it from various angles
asciilifeform: (i still have nfi how one cleans, e.g., a soxhlet)
asciilifeform: hm i suppose that makes sense.
asciilifeform: we distilled when i went to school, rig looked entirely like this but made of jointed condenser, tubes, etc. that were from standard kit.
asciilifeform: what i don't get is why the thing needs to be a unitary piece of glass
mats: this item looks like something i saw in an amateur chemist's setup, guy was making 'wax', thc concentrates ☟︎
asciilifeform: ;;later tell PeterL http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-19#1525032 << for a spell i did not figure out what was meant, but then, http://www.laboyglass.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/h/m/hmd011903.jpg !! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 05:54 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1522996 << yeah, i yield the point ; seems alf's theory prevails. at some point the guy was gutted, the skin made hand puppet.
phf: i'd say peak free software happened around same time when drivers were still a massive problem. when i moved to this country somebody gave me a g3 ibook, which i used for years to run linux (until i finally caved and switched to os x). i remember spending as much time on my fvwm as i did patching orinoco drivers. in fact my first massive foray into kernel hacking was getting those orinoco drivers to work for specific combination of
phf: you just forgot how it was in '98. you now have wider range of available shit, so it's the snr that has changed. there was definitely a peak free software where available range also had max hacker value, i.e. intangible quality of buildable, inspectable, etc. but before that free software was kind of shit with a lot of dyi required. ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'box where i built EVER bin' is significantly taller order today than in, say, 1998.
phf: fwiw, i suspect there's as many users of terrorist os as there were in the 90s, or as little. just a lot more users of microshit variety, and also users of obuntus and such, that scew the picture