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diana_coman: specifically, bit-level version gives bit-level precision so one can ask for as many bits as they want; workhorse byte-level keccak implementation works at byte-level so it will spit out as many *bytes* as you ask for (see http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/02/08/eucrypt-chapter-9-byte-order-and-bit-disorder-in-keccak/#selection-193.1-197.51 )
diana_coman: asciilifeform, keccak can spit out as many or as few bits as you want it to, not sure what is you q there re keccak ☟︎
mircea_popescu: im really only using it as an adhoc crc ; possibly should either get rid of it altogether, or implement a proper ec.
asciilifeform: 'n*(4*int64 + int32) (32 bytes each key followed by a 4 byte ID calculated as the keccak hash of the key itself)' << unless i misread, how does one get a 4byte output from keccak ?
BingoBoingo: s, that was in response to me pointing to that as a precedent for LGBT rights, but I’m not sure that makes it better. I’m just aghast. How can I make him see how wrong he is?"
BingoBoingo: Ah, slave priviledge in action. Countless ninjashoguns weep as the combination of right behavior and right parts allows the priviledged to learn in hallowed logs.
mircea_popescu: ok. 1 and 6 we ignore, as they're trivial for our exercise. ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'Asciilifeform would never recommend the use of 'rsa chips' as they work with only 'toy' key lengths, work in one direction, and have to be manually transported' << agh what
mircea_popescu: yuppers. 1470 vs 1472, pretty as can be.
asciilifeform: ( farm out to as many cores as you like )
mircea_popescu: the thing is -- new accounts handled "as resources permit" anyway, so...
mircea_popescu: but yes, as far as anyone knows 2048 bit keys perfectly safe, now and for the foreseable future (this isn't a comment on koch faux-pgp, which unsafe at any length as well documented in logs qntra and so on).
diana_coman: so basically what, for as long as attacker can keep flooding , presumably no new accounts although there might still be some that make it through?
mircea_popescu: ie, mtu is two things : no smaller frame shall issue from interface ; and larger packets MAY (but don't have to) travel as multiple frames.
diana_coman: Mocky, if I get this right you argue that it's better to do frag internally because can't trust externally to not fuck up the line entirely as attack vector?
Mocky: frag reassembly in-program can use a buffer of specified size, just as is done externally. so excess chunk memory overhead is known up front
a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 14:35 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and the attacker sends you sequence-1 packets. and you hold them. and as i said, "doesn't take so much work to ask me to hold 16gb of chunks."
Mocky: if you accept 16k new-acct packets seems just as easy to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-02#1857229 but further, if you rely on external frag-reassm it's even easier for attacker to prevent you from accepting *any* new account packets ☝︎
asciilifeform: as i currently understand, the only non-negotiably 'heavy' one is the new acct packet
mircea_popescu: i can't have as many interfaces as packet types for crying out loud.
mircea_popescu: server as it stands now doesn't talk to any new people, hence the "talk to mp" thing in client.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and the attacker sends you sequence-1 packets. and you hold them. and as i said, "doesn't take so much work to ask me to hold 16gb of chunks." ☟︎
diana_coman: asciilifeform, but what's the problem with that? client sends and waits (for as long as it wants) for a reply; whenever it has enough of waiting...sends again; until it makes it
diana_coman: the thing is though that at any rate, it won't get the same type of use as it did as main disk so I don't know whether much can be found out from that really
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856937 -> yes, please; also yes, can leave the old disk plugged in to see when it dies, why not (iirc there should still be 1 usb2 empty slot on my RC as the other one has an FG) ☝︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: photo grabbed, will upload when I return to coffee pot. Juggling enough memory devices as is
mod6: well, as soon as I get this report done.
asciilifeform: ( going as we speak )
mircea_popescu: and weighs as much as a babyduck.
asciilifeform: so as far as ro, exquisite hippo leather..
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Drive for C placed in dulap as well
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: A is powered up as are the fans. Added a few more 5v ports
lobbes: I would also love an iptable-enabled kernel. And ditto on keeping the old drive as an auxiliary; may as well eh
asciilifeform: diana_coman, mod6 , lobbes : if yer feeling brave, can also keep old drive on usb2 jack, as auxiliary storage, see just how long they live...
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ( i.e. prolly passed as 'paper' ) << How are you enjoying the tourist information?
asciilifeform: i went with 'heat' as hypothesis re lifespan, and so got these with moar surface , plus room for hedgehog
asciilifeform: ( i.e. prolly passed as 'paper' )
asciilifeform: ( rubbing alcohol clean the surface, then stick on as many as fit , per )
asciilifeform: the living, we can move later, as the customers permit us to schedule downtime
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu refers to it as 'the killer micro problem'
asciilifeform: phf: as i reckon, they're designed from the start to be integrated into some starvation-cheap konsoomer crapola . ergo they omit the controller.
asciilifeform: phf: funnily enuff i have that screen, experimented with use as indicator. it's dog slow.
asciilifeform: mod6: as 'suitcase' ? in principle yes. iirc we even had thread.
mircea_popescu: i dunno how hard a requirement "go on 1st pass" can be. as long as it eventually goes in...
mod6: I feel like, this will improve for me -- all of it. As someday I'll break out of these mines.
mod6: This is worthwhile. I've got a vector that I'd like to start into with sales -- as far as a market. Maybe one of these guys could help me get going.
mod6: I am somewhat sad about the state of the bitcoin poc as created by satoshi, but I'm still very much glad we have it.
mircea_popescu: modesty is just as often a sin as it is a virtue.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 16:03 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856376 << yet new ones are born every day. thousands of girls underwent puberty as we sat and spoke today, are they also excluded, "all women that'll ever be are already here" ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855754 << join, you know, as in... add a third. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: just as long as we don't end up with a "kernel module"
asciilifeform: but i read orig mircea_popescu observation as opposing very notion of collated log.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856376 << yet new ones are born every day. thousands of girls underwent puberty as we sat and spoke today, are they also excluded, "all women that'll ever be are already here" ? ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: ft-free in face of this conflict requires deliberate effort involving multiple people, which in turn require management and guidance. 4. ``THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION'' will endeavour to provide these, while fostering community growth and development, under the general principle that if and when any other thing conflicts with Bitcoin, that other thing must either be discontinued or amended in such a way as to no longer conflict w
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 14:22 asciilifeform: i could even see an argument that the charter could permit 'trb-i' work under the flag of tbf. but that's as far as it goes, per my reading
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856375 << let's give it a public reading, then. it says : "1. Bitcoin is a far reaching innovation with effects unknown and unknowable. 2. It is altogether probable that its effects will conflict with all currently established human conventions. 3. Maintaining the core values as established by the original author in the form of a reference implementation that is lightweight, coherent and cru ☝︎
diana_coman: I certainly think mod6 is and has been doing a great job in maintaining the v-tree for trb - and as I said before, I don't think it's something linked to tbf chair position
mod6: I love trb, and doing the foundation. I take a very measured, meticulous, methodical, and detail oriented approach to the work to provide a very sound patch set -- as best as I can.
mircea_popescu: i don't necessarily disagree -- but the explanation stands as such.
mircea_popescu: fine. then that's my explanation : suleyman the magnificent, in spite of being the ~best leader sublime porte ever had, nevertheless "fucked it" because he happened to walk into the room as corpse croaked.
mircea_popescu: all the foregoing aside, i very much hope mod6 dun take any of it as some kind of personal rebuff. i agree with all the others who like him very much, because i also.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 04:01 asciilifeform: it's a q for the current board. i suggested to ask hanbot because hanbot is known as a very skilled organizational hand, and not currently running anyffing ( aside from, possibly, mircea_popescu's janissary corps )
asciilifeform: vizier was iirc counted as in same chart, and was defo l1.
asciilifeform: was thinking of janissary corps , i.e. 'ss'/leibstandarte, rather than empire as whole
asciilifeform: how they were seen by euros as 'backward' for having 'errybody, from vizier down, is personal slave of sultan' instead of 'contract'
mircea_popescu: and the "authority", or w/e judge, stuck with dealing with the "reddit revolution" will, if sane, say exact same thing. which the morons will interpret as "o noes elites have abandoned us, must make own justice"
mircea_popescu: well, a) shuffler is never live (mostly, because the legal trappings around it require the shuffling be redone in some circumstances -- such as malfunction.) with b) orcs can't sync a gfx.
mircea_popescu: the essence, inalienable and substantial, of all freedom, is global responsibility. yes this means that you may end up blindsided by landing empires of bugs. it also, together and inseparably, means that you may be a person, and things such as "i'm not about to tell you what comp lang to use" etc. as counterdistinct from http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-06#1666454 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-07-24 15:59 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider eg that pizarro doesn't need to undertake the (significant, and unbounded) cost of writing "code of conduct" or "terms of service" or any of the other nonsense. things have changed. nude bitcoin is dangerous in the sense discussed in 2012, but bitcoin-as-currency-of-the-republic eminently usable today.
mircea_popescu: this stance informs my http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-24#1837545 as well as my position here : there's very limited use for an enumeration of duties in a lordship forum. it's fine and dandy if any lord wishes to use it in training his own slaves, but this is pointedly not what i'm contemplating in these halls. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: a) the anti-humanity party, however temporarily called, "protestant", "presbyterian", "unitarian", "democratic", "civilized", "ecologist", "animal rightist" what have you -- they're still these people who plainly and simply hate human life as a thing.
asciilifeform: was simply curious re whether the other participants (incl. new ones, potentially hanbot) see the thing through same lens as asciilifeform , or not.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-31 16:28 asciilifeform: and if someone wants to mention godel etc -- ethical engineer MAY NOT cite godel, EVER, just as a police detective MAY NOT cite the supernatural and admit a hypothesis of miraculous theft from a safe
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Recieved a ping as well. Will update when in hand
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i dun particularly care who in l1 does it, for so long as it keeps being done.
asciilifeform: as i observed just today and on 9000 occasions, even the simple thing of 'why can a trb node be 100 blox behind a fellow trb peer' is not yet licked
asciilifeform: fwiw i see my own work on trb, to date, as a ~defensive~ affair, i.e. to make whatever fixes req'd to keep the thing working precisely as it worked in 2009, in the face of the very real and continuing network rot / 9000 forms of active attack from heathendom to date
asciilifeform: i could even see an argument that the charter could permit 'trb-i' work under the flag of tbf. but that's as far as it goes, per my reading ☟︎
asciilifeform: imho oughta exist at the very least as optional jumper.
diana_coman: I mean: please "snarf" as per existing term of art
asciilifeform: it's a q for the current board. i suggested to ask hanbot because hanbot is known as a very skilled organizational hand, and not currently running anyffing ( aside from, possibly, mircea_popescu's janissary corps ) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: what i said in response uses the black box as she might define it, irrespective.
mircea_popescu: doing things (as opposed to not doing things) permits one to compare results (as opposed to imagine comparisons of imagined results).
hanbot: inasmuch as tbf clearly has a soul i'd think being true to that trumps the potential growth offered by a given gimmick. otherwise why isn't it for instance spreading virii?
hanbot: fwiw i don't doubt tbf as-is lacks legendary promise. i can also see argument for pushing as hard as its resources allow. i wonder: does the republic actually give two shits about e.g. sports teams? how much of this "means to an end" sorta thing is acceptable? or is it outright looked for?
mircea_popescu: it still "exert an influence on behalf of humanity and welfare" bullshit pantsuit values as we speak.
mircea_popescu: this means, to live. if stanford university today were nothing more than an entry in the rich guy's lawyer's workledger, it'd not live. as it is, it lives.
asciilifeform: mod6: i for one will be sad to see end of your tenure as tbf chair -- imho it was as productive as could ever be wished
mod6: I will do so formally after the Pizarro report is complete. We will be needing to find a replacement for myself as Co-Chair.
mod6: After a lot of consideration this weekend, I'm still interested in stepping down as Foundation Co-Chair.
asciilifeform: ( as did BingoBoingo )
a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 20:46 mircea_popescu: can't see the former as anything but "i stupidly gave my data away to some schmuckfarm which now owns me", but then again i don't solobike nor have any interest in navigating-by-map, either i know where i'm going or i'm exploring. but anyways, we don't have to copy each other.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 20:08 Mocky: I saw there's a harley store in Montevideo. one in Doha as well
mircea_popescu: we're not discussing an imaginary alt-usg "as it could have been". we are discussing the usg that is.
mircea_popescu: can't see the former as anything but "i stupidly gave my data away to some schmuckfarm which now owns me", but then again i don't solobike nor have any interest in navigating-by-map, either i know where i'm going or i'm exploring. but anyways, we don't have to copy each other. ☟︎
Mocky: I saw there's a harley store in Montevideo. one in Doha as well ☟︎
mircea_popescu: there's bunches, but usually in "business", as the us renders the "oligarch" concept when it's domestic rather than abroad.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 02:37 asciilifeform: trinque: tru. but nobody's about to become mircea_popescu off what's in the tbf piggy as we know it..
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855878 << on meditation : wealth, knights (as in http://trilema.com/2018/cu-cartile-pe-masa-un-fleac-l-au-ciuruit/#selection-255.0-255.181 sense) and slaves. ☝︎
asciilifeform: as for others, i dun recall who is 149.56.19.79 but iirc also trb