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asciilifeform: the orbit of my personal inner altcrackpot is largely around 'mining is a bug'.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-20 22:53 asciilifeform: as i see it , this is not satisfactorily solvable, the author cannot prove that he did not retain a crib sheet to the keyz.
asciilifeform: it relies on a server, neh ?
a111: Logged on 2016-10-20 22:49 asciilifeform: unrelated to any of this, i recently went on a dig re crackpot altcoins, and was again disappointed, much of the phase space was never explored. for instance, it does not appear that anyone ever tried a 'captain kidd' alt
mircea_popescu: a sort of localbrew punk/skinhead of the 70s
mircea_popescu: actually i recall ru went through a very acute phase
mircea_popescu: also for the sake of humanity, "The teleology of this phenomena should probably begin" is a broken sentence. a teleology is any theory of purpose in realia. so you could say "any attempt if describing the teleology of this phenomena should probably begin" or "the teleology of this phenomena should be expressed in terms of" etc. it dun work like "description" or "philosophy", it works like for "substance" or "relevancy".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, they never got semantic, a la ru prison tattoos. most girls got what today'd be called "tribal" shit
mircea_popescu: also at a time and place where listening to depeche mode wasn't merely happenstance but more cultural identification and political statement than a trump tshirt
mircea_popescu: but this is from a very insular culture, where for instance lesbos had it very easy : "does she wear anklet ? talk to her."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: was there a typical tat ?
mircea_popescu: anyway. when i was a kid, tattoos meant a thing and that thing only : she fucks. there exists no majority age in romania, a girl's a woman the moment she starts doing it, which can happen as early as 12, though as a rule it's more around 15.
asciilifeform: it is a form of theoretically-undetectable 'premine'.
thestringpuller: Yea. hence brokenness. all a snore indeed.
thestringpuller: "We have also discussed a
asciilifeform: it was a feature that derps pretend is in bitcoin, but never made it in, made fools of themselves
thestringpuller: well isn't solving a block the same as finding a time delay crypto puzzle?
asciilifeform: to put it in more familiar frame, there is no way to prove that the majority of the bitcoin hash rate is not in fact happening on a pocket comp.
asciilifeform: 'proof of work', like 'symmetric crypto', does not in fact have a protocolic (vs promisetronic) existence !
asciilifeform: (and incidentally this is a problem shared with bitcoin, which may conceivably have been authored by someone with a pill for sha2.)
asciilifeform: as i see it , this is not satisfactorily solvable, the author cannot prove that he did not retain a crib sheet to the keyz. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i.e. one where all of the coin is premined, but allocated into 'chests', published as privkeys enciphered in such a way as to be bruteforceable with reasonable effort
asciilifeform: unrelated to any of this, i recently went on a dig re crackpot altcoins, and was again disappointed, much of the phase space was never explored. for instance, it does not appear that anyone ever tried a 'captain kidd' alt ☟︎
asciilifeform: ('martian bank' being simply a naive abstraction of 'idealizes swiss bank', where money supply is constant, and i can send from account a1 can send to a2 if and only if i have the privkey for a1, and double-spend - impossible, etc.) ☟︎
asciilifeform: other, unrelated observation, is that delegating computation with a homomorphotron is only +ev if you spend fewer cycles to encipher 'the question' and decipher 'the answer' than it would have taken you to carry out the entire computation in your own comp
mircea_popescu: ima leave him a comment
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if one "reduced" to all then set theory would be a funny place indeed.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-19#1556932 << i started chipping at the code to get the old log support working, probably a couple of days worth of work ☝︎
asciilifeform: how does this not reduce to 'all in a kettle'..?
mircea_popescu: every one is always going to be representable as "in a kettle".
asciilifeform: can't speak for other folx, but i personally sit in a kettle.
mircea_popescu: this is a fundamental strategical choice, and it is not getting reviewed. which is why there isn't a geographical republic.
mircea_popescu: anyway - we shall never again find ourselves "in a closed castle".
mircea_popescu: for all i know the guy has a point ; but we've not to date managed to put it in terms i can read.
mircea_popescu: trinque he has a serious issue with things that i don't yet fully grok, but i can not presently distinguish from this irrational meltdown and the irrational meltdown on the gossipd spec.
mircea_popescu: i'm not interested in the branching, will be happy to have a bignum machine that's securely separable via uci.
asciilifeform: scheme that relies on a and b, in besieged castle, to communicate with a non-besieged C, is not crypto.
asciilifeform: this gedankenexperiment strikes me as quite similar to the one where you 'defeat' 2nd law of thermo. by dumping heat into a black hole, and similar.
mircea_popescu: it is. in order for you to get the whole set you must a) break rsa keys as numerous as the whole set and b) magically intercept all communications, even those happening outside of any set that includes you.
asciilifeform: crypto that dun work inside a 100% surrounded castle is not crypto.
mircea_popescu: this is a stronger guarantee than what rsa offers, incidentally.
asciilifeform: if you know the total set of A-asked-B, you can put bounds on what was done.
mircea_popescu: from the fact that A asks B to p-add P1 and P1 you can not distinguish whether P1 is being multiplied or added. that you can't distinguish between these two means you have 0 bits, not > 0 bits.
asciilifeform: this is a problem.
asciilifeform: how not ? if i know that you delegated a total of 3 ops, i know that your multiplicand is <= 3.
asciilifeform: aite. (i dun even dispute that a scheme where multiple parties are used for obfuscatory/smoke purposes ~can be useful~ - but it is not crypto in the normal sense. stego, perhaps.)
mircea_popescu: this is a very abstruse spoke off an interesting discussion. i dun really want to follow it. can we get back to the point ?
mircea_popescu: maybe i ask a bunch of decoys
asciilifeform: if you're locked in a room with'em, and see all of the steps, they know the 3.
asciilifeform: this is a card trick, not crypto.
asciilifeform: you gotta have a branch.
asciilifeform: make me a branch.
mircea_popescu: if my job is to obtain C1 * C2 I will chain it : ask A to produce P1 + P1 ; ask B to add P1 to his result. ask C to add P1 to that result and so on.
asciilifeform: except you need a crypto-branch.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you could construct a multiply ints function out of add ints
asciilifeform: (i was only able to see 'solution' from the shithub code, the paper is everywhere paywalled. and this somehow passes as a 'source' for pediwik et al..)
asciilifeform: based on the most obvious scheme, that i toyed with as a student, paillier (see oooooold l0gz)
asciilifeform: in re thread from coupla days ago, i was somewhat surprised to discover that a recent homomorphatron scam, 'cryptoleq', is now promoted in a buncha places, incl. pediwikia, ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_instruction_set_computer#Cryptoleq and probably elsewhere ) .
asciilifeform: it isn't an earth-shakingly useful distinction, except in situations where you have a finite length of rope and gotta decide who goes first.
mircea_popescu: ex post facto ? that's not much of a distinction.
mircea_popescu: there is a difference if and only if the difference can be shown.
asciilifeform: eh back to the pickpockets; there is a difference between crackpot and charlatan.
asciilifeform: 'Urbit is a total scamcoin. It's 100% premined TLDR: yeah. But at least it's not the DAO.'
asciilifeform: 'TLDR: all of computing is a hoax. You can't compare a hoax to nothing. You can only compare it to all the other hoaxes.'
mircea_popescu: the schmuck in casa rosada is very much a dmitry ovsyannikov.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-20#1557039 << this was a major point of contention during previous elections. guy published (ridiculous, web based xss) flaw in their voting thing, everyone threw a hissy fit ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, if they have a controversy it means they exist rite ?
mircea_popescu: anyway. that the matriarchy always builds some sort of reddit, which is to say the female hujra, pointless-blather-house is much of a historical necessity ; much like how the matriarchy's annoyance at ~what trump represents~ necessarily expressed itself in terms of fantastic "rape".
mircea_popescu: meanwhile patriarchy is an arrangement among the best in society, who are strong, inconsequential, and careless. they tend to spend a lot of time doing, which is purpose without speech, and dedicate themselves to raping the women and tearing down anything taller than themselves.
mircea_popescu: and since we're on it, let's define terms. matriarchy - an arrangement built among the worst in society, who are weak, inconsequential, ambitious and envious. they tend to spend a lot of time gossiping - which is speech without purpose - and dedicate themselves to a very pedestrian sort of magico-technology, aiming to protect, their worthless flesh as well as their miserable progeny. this necessarily decays into a quest for c
asciilifeform: that cargo cultists build 'airplane', does not show that airplane is a scam.
mircea_popescu: and since it's been mentioned, let it be said i'm rather suspicious of this fuhrerprinzip business also. nazis WERE socialists, by their own lights, and the fact that they desired a matriarchy stylistically irreconcilable with the matriarchy in power in england does not make them men, or respectable.
asciilifeform: trinque: it's a moldbugism
asciilifeform: but not wholly a snore, which is rare.
asciilifeform: 'As you know “the international community” is denouncing Russia’s use of bunker buster bombs as a war crime. There is a rebel video on you tube examining the hole made by a bunker buster. Looks like the bomb blast went through two meters of concrete to blow up inside a bunker. Somehow I doubt that you will find all that many civilians under two meters of concrete inside a bunker. But I rather suspect you might find a few memb
trinque: looking back over recent history, maybe a guy asks himself why the government stopped pushing the clipper chip.
thestringpuller: writing a program for it felt a lot liek telling the computer to play a tape...
asciilifeform: worse yet if on a laptop, which has smm
asciilifeform: ever try to use a linux (or winblowz) box for cnc machining via naive 'parallel port to stepper motor' plug ?
Framedragger: yeah, linux audio folks have these suggestions to "run everything on a realtime kernel", which is probably akin to pouring a bit of water (which may or may not be mixed with gasoline) on a large fire.
asciilifeform: (audio buffers are also an idiocy, but it is a forced mistake, it comes from trying to do real-time operations on a multiprocess os full of shit)
Framedragger: ^ send a packet *faster*
Framedragger: (in one of his talks karmack did complain that (something like) "it's still ridiculous that i can send a packet to another continent than i can send a click to my sound card!" - basically, multiple middlware layers are involved and it's a bit.. stinky. but at least one can stick to a good API and reduce the headache..)
Framedragger: thestringpuller: yeah you're totally right and i really like the api - it's nice! it does seem that to make sure everything incl hrtf works on a person's PC it needs to be installed to system dirs and then linked dynamically as folks had problems with static linking; and apparently for windows the 'proper' way to do it is to first install creative's openal version, and *then* install openal-soft on top
Framedragger: (was afk.) (i guess it's unavoidable to a point because e.g. you need to somehow pass down complex scene info (not only sources and listeners but also obstacles for occlusion/reverb) into a low-level api)
thestringpuller: i think with openal (iirc) you can drop sound to emit from a location like a light source on 3d map
Framedragger: but man is audio a mess. so much middleware and layers
Framedragger: in unrelated news/queries, game audio has deteriorated in the last 10 years. used to be proper 3d positional audio. am trying to build a shitty 2d top-down thingie with proper HRTF etc for audio, don't suppose anyone has any recommendations? if worx on linux, enough in principle. linux + osx + windows = ideal
thestringpuller: you have a teenager?
asciilifeform: i prefer working in a lit room
Framedragger: i actually like to have a sticky note near palm to scribble upon. in the dark
Framedragger: trinque: here's a (very shitty) video of someone dem0nstrating said light https://youtu.be/WzfL3parOWM?t=12
thestringpuller: "A Hiwi was a foreigner who volunteered to serve the Nazis."
jhvh1: thestringpuller: Error: "s" is not a valid command.
Framedragger: "a file called "wpbbin.exe" was placed in C:\windows\system32 and executed. That turns out to be a method Microsoft introduced with Windows 8 to allow the BIOS to execute code on boot up (!?!) called "Windows Platform Binary Table (WPBT)"." gotta love M$
Framedragger: (still not sure if that rootkit is basically same as superfish. the latter is just in software as i take it; the former is a lenovo superduper software update solution which can download the latter(?) and resides in BIOS which is scary)
Framedragger: trinque: it's a small LED which shines down upon the most awesome thinkpad keyboard before lenovo ruined (fuck chiclet)
trinque: wtf is a legit hax0r backlight
Framedragger: the prime point of my conviction regarding shadiness comes from the fact that X220 has a legit hax0r backlight at top of monitor.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-20#1556998 << wtf is such a 'hardware' switch worth ?! ☝︎