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asciilifeform: i don't know who al might've shared the recipe with, but u.s. navy funded almost exactly this scheme as a mega-project a few years ago.
asciilifeform: (please don't answer it here!)
The20YearIRCloud: my preference would still be a safe sunk into a concrete wall in a basement room that can't be easily accessed
The20YearIRCloud: There's a town close to me that once every year auctions off 250-350 safe deposit box contents, you bid per box and don't know what is in them. All are seized from people who either didn't pay up or forgot about em
ben_vulpes: !t l s.mpoe
BingoBoingo: !t m s.limbs
cazalla: i guess he wasn't behind 7 proxies
punkman: they don't like a crowd
punkman: haven't heard of anyone farming them
cazalla: it's an idea, they aren't prone to calici or myx if memory serves
Vexual: there you go caz, big fat hares t whever punk is ☟︎
cazalla: i planned to do bees in the spring but i'm putting it off until we move, i can't adhere to the regulations they set for doing it here
pete_dushenski: who doesn't like a fine cheese?
cazalla: redfern isn't what it was so don't worry too much
assbot: German publishing house Heise showing how modern Journalism is done: OpenPGP Keys for all their journalists. http://t.co/DVwZQpOrnk (ger)
assbot: Mr. /CharlieShrem, in taking it in the pooper like so http://t.co/qZe3na3Zd7 only proved his mousy illiteracy http://t.co/556Zm8Lku4
pete_dushenski: <ben_vulpes> also: if it ain't about money i go/nowhere i'm nailed to the floor << too good!
BingoBoingo: %t
ben_vulpes: " My dislike of other mining nodes is a consequence of directly correlated forking dangers of alternative mining code, and I think we both know that." << one of these days i'm going to get left behind as reward for my courtesy of loyalty to the power rangers i can feel it coming but maybe if i complain a lot in public maybe the inevitable won't happen
asciilifeform: see also earlier discussion of swallowing rsa signatures of people you don't know
asciilifeform: decimation: at least a few registrars take btc and don't ask too many questions
decimation: asciilifeform: wouldn't there be an "id trail" from the registrar to the bot herder?
asciilifeform: just as with the discovery of ionizing radiation, people suffer needlessly because they 'intuitively' believe that invisible thing can't kill them
decimation: asciilifeform: because better compiler = more people thinking they don't have to understand what the machine is doing?
decimation: because the code wasn't machine code or MIX...
asciilifeform: i must confess that the conformal/power-ranger war does not concern me personally, because 'happy is the man who has one leg, one sock doesn't tear, one boot isn't needed' - and i intend to solve the pertinent problem with own hands before it begins to concern me personally.
mircea_popescu: justusranvier lol they can't compete on fud, this is a long established point.
justusranvier: It's just pathetic to watch the Bitcoin Core team and/or their fanboys compete on FUD when they can't compete on code quality
justusranvier: But they know their block wasn't bad because they submitted it to a local, isolated bitcoind before they broadcast it to the network
justusranvier: Because they didn't save it, and the blockexplorer site doesn't save orphan chains
justusranvier: We don't know exactly at what height their block was originally mined
kanzure: that doesn't answer my question, actually
justusranvier: kanzure: Well, do don't know for sure.
mircea_popescu: decimation i actually don't know any personally.
mircea_popescu: She wasn't talking to me, but I could hear her saying, "It wasn't supposed to be like this, they're so ugly, it's just so wrong." << woman met the orcs, hasn't even been raped yet.
decimation: "Then the whole RoseArt versus Crayola battle. The kids at the Salvation Army fair got RoseArt, almost half the cost of Crayola, and that's what the vouchers covered. But the RoseArt supplies were hardly touched and the Crayola was wiped out. At the registers, the fights started over, "My kids don't want none of that RoseArt shit, are you saying they ain't good enough for the good stuff? Only white kids get the good stuff?""
mircea_popescu: the uni prof can't start at 22.
decimation: for undergrad subjects at any rate, you would be a pretty poor professor if you couldn't write your own text
asciilifeform: decimation: most of these aren't meaningfully searchable anyway
asciilifeform doesn't read scans on normal computer
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk your penis ? sorry to be the harbringer of sad news, but... it doesn't scale in the future, it shrinks in the future.
diametric: there really isn't anything to maintain..
mircea_popescu: why aren';t you in the wot anyway.
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
MolokoDesk: there's probably an includable object in php that does PGP operations that doesn't use the command line. some PGP or GPG library wrapper.
ben_vulpes: can't be arsed. here's to the sybils!
mircea_popescu: golang isn't all that fragile, gwon.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you got the worthless traffic, can't he have the worthless tips ?
mircea_popescu: this is true, you're one of the very few people who were around during pirate even, didn't go all nuts about it.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic plenty of people have custom clients that don't get crushed by the hearn introduced nsa bug.
midnightmagic: ben_vulpes: It means the constant claim of credit for work bitcoin core does, the regular snipes and badmouthing of dev activity, the adoption, nearly wholesale, of bitcoin features and ideas without any attribution, and the denial that either someone with access to the conformal code created a fork after rejecting a conformal-mined block, or someone who has a custom bitcoind that doesn't crash on a huge long testnet fork even
mircea_popescu: so you don't trust the guy.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you really can't say what process a third party uses to discern trustworthyness
ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: if you don't understand why this conversation belongs in #bitcoin-assets...
mircea_popescu: DoctorBTC i don't recall what i wanted to commend you about, but it was something.
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol i don't think tao can stay unless it starts answering ,chart in pm only
midnightmagic: ben_vulpes: Do you mind if we go PM? I don't want to disturb channel.
mircea_popescu: sadly, gay marriage wasn't a thing then.
asciilifeform generally believes that safety-critical code must be written in such a way that auditor can see a tight correspondence between every line and what machine physically does. note that this doesn't entail 'use C!' but can also mean different machine. ☟︎☟︎
MolokoDesk: It's simple enough to parmeterize it, i didn't mean changing it from IRC. sure.
mircea_popescu: * asciilifeform sees 'golang' as a mild misbehaviour, but won't try to convince people << be fgucking thankful it's not ruby.
asciilifeform sees 'golang' as a mild misbehaviour, but won't try to convince people
RagnarDanneskjol: i think the 'obviously bogus' part isn't really even a consideration
MolokoDesk: so this is more a "bot, tell me what you know about this purported contract document, and save a copy, and if the contract isn't obviously bogus, notarize it to the blockchain with a hash"
ben_vulpes: ;;everify if we're defending against collisions, extracting keyids doesn't help much.
MolokoDesk: the only thing i haven't tested fully is spending via block.io's api (i have the encoded wallet address already), and getting PGP keys or key IDs/hashes from a signed document without knowing the public keys already.
MolokoDesk: and it's provable that the contract hasn't been altered since signed and timelogged to the blockchain.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk the signature of someone you don't know is worthless to you.
MolokoDesk: ok. is the rationale here that if counterparties signed a document, they usually know who they are and since the contract is not enforceable by an external party, only by their cooperation, it doesn't matter who actually signed it if they all know they did.
MolokoDesk: heh. I haven't tested this with documents signed by anyone else yet. sec.
mircea_popescu: don't make it something stupid.
MolokoDesk: I didn't see any obvious way to do that.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDeck don't.
mircea_popescu: a point so fucking readily lost on derpjournos you wouldn't begin to believe.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes gpg saying "signed by x" means nothing if you don't have x's pubkey to check.
MolokoDeck: you need the hash of the public key ... to get that it seems you need the public key. the PGP cryptosignatures on a document are kind of opaque if you don't have the public key already, apparently it uses the public key to determine whether the signatures match the unaltered document and are from the person who owns the private key matching the public key.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "Now this wasn't particularly notable at all. Now a lot of mining companies are crawling" << you are not allowed to use now as the first word in two consecutive sentences
mircea_popescu: when you feed a string to gpg you either get a "nonsense" complaint or a "signed by X" response, with a warning that "we can't know who x is "
MolokoDeck: what is of concern is that to make a valid transaction to the bitcoin blockchain one has to manage a web wallet. The first cut is going to use block.io since they have a simple API that includes the testnet (which I'm using in such a rudimentary way it doesn't matter whether it's obsolete features exist or not. the subset of features is common to the latest bitcoind)
mircea_popescu: so i figure why no give clueless noobs a chance. send an order " http://mediaparty.info/2014/ << find the afterparty". half hour later, "i can't find anything. nobody is sayinga word on sm, there's ONE picture of a guy and some wine on twitter without enough background to find where it is or anything".
mircea_popescu: this way you don't have to keep updated keyrings locally or verify signatures in any wya ☟︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: i don't even recall the name of the suit.
MolokoDeck: simply having valid signatures doesn't guarantee that the people who made the contract signed it. which is why I'm using wot as an authority to find the registered keys for the parties asserted to have been signatories.
MolokoDeck: but so far I haven't dug in enough to know if that's doable given command line GPG, I think you have to validate against a public key.
jurov: dunno why they don't extrapolate from sliding window or such
jurov: obv they don't count with 20% increases
BingoBoingo: If it isn't I'm impressed
jurov: well, they will be like "of course don't use with untrusted cables"
asciilifeform: jurov: strictly speaking you don't need to open the unit for this.
devthedev: Balances don't seem to be loading
BingoBoingo: Wouldn't have the same impact if it were a glue horse.
asciilifeform: didn't even notice the ad on the barrel until took it apart (pen wouldn't fit through base hole of instrument that needed a plinth drilled to mount it, took out nib)
punkman: asciilifeform: is the cardano late because you can't figure out how to backdoor it?
pankkake: I didn't think the links would change
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski also: "if it ain't about money i go/nowhere i'm nailed to the floor"
ben_vulpes: ;;late tell pete_dushenski also: "if it ain't about money i go/nowhere i'm nailed to the floor"
pankkake: why not. just fill them early enough so the tx fee won't be too high
asciilifeform: these typically don't come with the cpu horsepower to unpack djvu
asciilifeform: http://s000.tinyupload.com/download.php?file_id=15526354107396586672&t=1552635410739658667298845
pankkake: I don't, I just took the first google result