asciilifeform: one could attempt a, say, 'be-arsewaltzed' but not same effect. and doesn't generalize.

asciilifeform: but made of same cloth.

asciilifeform: neither is in the oxford dictionaries.

asciilifeform: ( was my guess for == to 'ghetzalit' btw )

asciilifeform: afaik you can't. it turns into a whole paragraph.

asciilifeform: how do you even say, e.g., отпидарашенный, in engl.

asciilifeform: english has tattered remnants of various attributes of proper human tongue

asciilifeform: troo

asciilifeform: ( with obvious 'man', 'woman', 'cow', etc stick figures still embedded in the most vintage glyphs )

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684534 << afaik there is 0 evidence of their ever having had a syllabulary... pictograph liquishit from cave drawings to today. ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( at least jp moved away from this some time bc )

asciilifeform: trinque: wait till you remember that the cn folx are fractally damaged, they can't ~speak~ like normal humans either, gotta do this 11-tone singsong thing

asciilifeform: 'Знает каждый на Руси - вХРЮК, оХГДЕЖ и МЮ УСИ' (tm)(r)

asciilifeform: бНОПНЯ ВХРЮК!!!!

asciilifeform: http://www.asciitable.com/index/extend.gif << oblig 8thbit liquishit

asciilifeform: trinque: there weren't any shitgnomes yet.

asciilifeform: i dun actually hate apl. it ain't chinese liquishit, is actually pretty small and readable alphabet. that probably oughta have occupied the upper half of ansi 8bit coding, instead of the rubbish that's in there nao.

asciilifeform: ( bonus xah lee ! )

asciilifeform: http://xahlee.info/comp/unicode_APL_symbols.html << it's in there, apparently.

asciilifeform: trinque: apl!

asciilifeform: and it ain't useless space, either, i like my current dig mainly for the enclosedbalcony. sunlight, it's a thing.

asciilifeform: for the sake of space.

asciilifeform: and today asciilifeform spends manymanybux on... space.

asciilifeform: asciilifeform's grandfather indeed with own hands enclosed the balcony

asciilifeform: dingdingding winnner

asciilifeform: there is no 'no, just'.

asciilifeform: and fuck the hieroglyphists with their own severed limbs.

asciilifeform: multibyte chars == crock of shit

asciilifeform: ?

asciilifeform: erlehmann: see the earlier thread /

asciilifeform: erlehmann: on some boxes yes, on some -- no

asciilifeform: 'war was invented by people living downstream of herds' (tm)(r)(uncle al)

asciilifeform: newspeak(tm)(r)

asciilifeform: choose-from-these-palace-approved-words.

asciilifeform: i'm a bit surprised that pantsuits have not yet attempted to transform english into 'wordicode', a la http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684311 . ☝︎

asciilifeform: hey, mao did answer 'but your father swallowed french revolution, we dun know which is more lethally stupid yet'

asciilifeform: ( i could instead say '1 msec' but crystal jitter, interrupts, etc )

asciilifeform: exercise for reader : write equation to predict, within 1 minute, how long N! takes on your box in ffa

asciilifeform: it doesn't relieve of the burden of having to actually prove correctness tho.

asciilifeform: ( to the extent such a thing is to be demonstrated experimentally. )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: another fine experiment is to do 9000 mults of B-bit rngolade. demonstrates that the payload really has 0 impact on time.

asciilifeform: sorta why the thing even exists.

asciilifeform: 1 ffa mult for B-bit regs take time T. 9000 of them take time 9000T. guaranteed.

asciilifeform: ( see further in same thread )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the difficulty is in predicting how long ops take on heathentron, not on ffa ( which is deadly linear for all ops )

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: if you don't have a gutenberg-compatible alphabet for your language, it is defective .

asciilifeform: erlehmann: the 'ligature' liquishit had almost 600 motherfucking years, to get lost, now. since gutenberg.

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: ᛋᛋ !

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Amircea_popescu+unicode << in there somewhere

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-23#1631972 << 1 'standards' thread ☝︎

asciilifeform: incidentally i use 'orc glyphs' every day. koi8 etc.

asciilifeform: from my cold dead hands, motherfuckers.

asciilifeform: 'it lasts' lol

asciilifeform: i do not write non8bit text processors, and don't intend to ever.

asciilifeform: it has NOT been incurred. ☟︎

asciilifeform: just like the poettershits convinced idiots that 16bit chars were 0cost

asciilifeform: you want to tell me that this is not a cost ?

asciilifeform: so you now have either 24bit chars, or O(N) stringlen operator.

asciilifeform: well for starters 250,000 > 65536

asciilifeform: the mere possibility of 'new characters' is antisanity. ☟︎

asciilifeform: fuck that, with red hot poker.

asciilifeform: why, because 'come to expect' ?

asciilifeform: why not?

asciilifeform: but for some reason will not laugh if chairman mao does the same thing.

asciilifeform: if i start writing english as strings of 16-bit indices into the oxford dictionary, people will laugh. ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: gonna tell me that hieroglyphic writing is not needless bloat ?

asciilifeform: erlehmann: didja ever read the pernicious-standardization thread in the logz ?

asciilifeform: though i definitely see the strength of his argument, that people who use more glyphs than there are keys on keyboard, have severe problem, and their place is by the cultural latrine, and not bloating the os for civilized folx

asciilifeform: mno, that'd be mircea_popescu's.

asciilifeform: with $smallint number of glyphs.

asciilifeform: dun wanna pass bitmaps -- use godly alphabets.

asciilifeform: this nonsense has no future, erlehmann .

asciilifeform: it's a shambling horror, with empty desert, duplicated glyphs, no particular rhyme or reason, and all the consistency of microshit

asciilifeform: definitely not 'all'

asciilifeform: they wanna say 妓 -- let'em be stuck saying 32 bytes (16x16 bit matrix, more than enough for any hierohorror) rather than 2 bytes !!! ☟︎

asciilifeform: people who want to use hieroglyphs, should be passing around bitmaps.

asciilifeform: mno.

asciilifeform: it is rampaging idiocy

asciilifeform: ( why was it necessary to unicodize the fucking hieroglyphs ? even supposing the chinese are inseparable from them. why not simply carry them as bitmap matrix.)

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684006 << via this, found >> http://unifoundry.com/pub/unifont-10.0.05/unifont-10.0.05.bmp << which is lulzy, weep at the sheer bulk of the orc hieroglyph liquishit ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform helps

asciilifeform: cheapcoinz!!1111

asciilifeform: !~ticker --market all

asciilifeform: ( where we do as i said, incrementing the T , using i for nothing but loop )

asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/2GCid/?raw=true << 'purist' version

asciilifeform: also you forgot, in the original, to divide the length of ffa by 64 (bits), yours will blow up instead of run, gcc by default does not give infinite stack

asciilifeform: mod6: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/TvufZ/?raw=true << replace 10 with whatever

asciilifeform: gimme 1s

asciilifeform: also you got a bunch of ??? in there (what does IO do ? )

asciilifeform: there's no type rape, because you don't use i for anything but to do the thing i times

asciilifeform: O can start at 1, and get incremented (with FZ_Add) I times ( for i ..... loop)

asciilifeform: or O

asciilifeform: you don't need to examine F for any reason

asciilifeform: what's to keep you ?

asciilifeform: ( FZ_Add(F, ... whatever )

asciilifeform: and go up by 1

asciilifeform: use a human integer as the counter

asciilifeform: why do you have a ffa-wide comparison in there.