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princessnell: mircea_popescu and in that they become unhuman. basically a major point of that article is that this desperate clutching at straws, people trying to retain their people-relevance in economics is a little lulzy. there's no room for politics in economy.
<< i am excited to learn more about this non-political economy you have discovered!
princessnell: bitcoinpete that often includes children, but this isn't a necessity
<< right, Hamilton's law
princessnell: mircea_popescu: this opens up a large debate as to whether life has purpose. i happen to hold that it doesnt, which informs the choice of vocabulary. it'll have to be translated (apolitic ?) to avoid linking that dependency in there.
<< on the most basic level the purpose of life is to keep living. everything else is window dressing but the actions they adorn reveal a necessary performative acknowlegement.
mod6:
<+thestringpuller> 12 mod6 = 0
<< haha
Apocalyptic:
<asciilifeform> you can use kde, gnome, etc. // also known as the clickodrome
benkay:
<zrobo> cryptsy.com: 1 dogecoin = 78 satoshis. coindesk price $0.0004. 24 hr volume: 1147 megadoge
Apocalyptic:
<thestringpuller> archlinux is pretty good // it is
rithm:
<epeen> Linux 3.5.0-47-generic | Dual Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3220 CPU @ 3.30GHz 1600.000 MHz | Mem: 2684/4019M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 1863G Free: 1455G | Bogomips: 26341.7 | Screen Res: 3360x1050 | Procs: 202 | eth0: In: 5.89G Out: 4.17G | 13:24:25 up 3 days, 23:03, 4 users, load average: 0.23, 0.23, 0.45
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: how to become rich? first, have several million Dollars.
<< lulz
Apocalyptic:
<benkay> HeySteve: outlawing market manipulation is a fools errand. those with the cash to throw around are going to do so regardless of the regulatory environment and do so all the time.
<< pretty much benkay
atcbot: %t | %ticker | %book | %diff | %tx
<tx_id> | %bal
<address> | %mined | %block
<block_height> | %lb | %tslb | %cm | %ptp | %help | %h
kakobrekla: >Quote from:
<the_most_trusted_person_in_bitcoin> on May 22, 2014, 05:51:29 AM : If anyone is able to lend the 4 BTC needed to pay for this, please let me know.
fluffypony: asciilifeform:re: monero et al:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/CryptoNight <- the wiki says that, the whitepaper says otherwise. even the site says "Our algorithm requires about 2 Mb per instance" - whoever edited the wiki is clearly a turd.
fluffypony: moiety:noobs seem to rate success on howmany tshirts are produced with x alt on them
<- so when are ManulCoin shirts coming?
benkay:
<benkay> ;;rate xmj 1 red in the face
benkay:
<asciilifeform> whotehfuckcares about yet another pwnhole in turdroid // well yeah - it's not an educational thing for the attendees, it's a promotional thing for the speakers.
mircea_popescu: princessnell: economies are aggregations of human actions
<< and in that they become unhuman. basically a major point of that article is that this desperate clutching at straws, people trying to retain their people-relevance in economics is a little lulzy. there's no room for politics in economy.
mircea_popescu: princessnell: i think it's bizarre to call it non-teleological personally
<< this opens up a large debate as to whether life has purpose. i happen to hold that it doesnt, which informs the choice of vocabulary. it'll have to be translated (apolitic ?) to avoid linking that dependency in there.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: I also take issue with "perfect"
<< now we're getting to the knickers of it :D
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: penguirker is bog-slow
<< it's actually broken pankkake. it sometimes publishes 2nd article in list when the 1st shows in rss.
mircea_popescu: jurov: extract more absolute observations
<< a fool's errand
<< quite true, but also all of humanities is exactly this fool's errand. human condition, what.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: i want to make sure i'm not inventing ideas someone else has already
<< the problem here is that you're looking at reading by the bookshelf, not by the book. there's an immense load and no directly obvious way to even systematize it. hayek tho may be a good start if you've not read him fully.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: i venture to guess that it is because the temptation to 'go retarded' (e.g. premine, insert 'egalitarian' crapola like demurrage, reward phriends, etc.) is overwhelming.
<< cattle lacks motivators outside of grass.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: it could be near-death
<< such nonsense. he holds what, at most 9% of supply ? who the shit cares 9% of supply is sold off.
mircea_popescu: and renting instead of buying makes attacks cheaper
<<< you had it earlier tho. if it's mined then more gear will mine more ; similarly, if it can be bought it can be rented. fwiw, fee simple is rent anyway. what bought.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller:It's funny how it's far more productive to do business here than in #bitcoin-otc
<< it used to be funny, now it'd be shocking if it wasn't :p
mircea_popescu: had a discussion with gmaxwell a few days ago about ring signatures, and he agrees that it could be done in a kludgy way in BTC, but it's an unlikely thing to happen, so Monero will possibly carve out a nice niche among the darknet markets crowd
<< that's exactly right, it could perhaps be implemented but if it is it'll be a private extension.
mircea_popescu:
<danielpbarron> i wish the miners would get in the WoT and sell directly to individuals like me with cash to send in the mail // some do
<< like most.
benkay:
<zrobo> cryptsy.com: 1 dogecoin = 80 satoshis. coindesk price $0.0004. 24 hr volume: 1368 megadoge
benkay:
<benkay> dogecoin [04:38]
mircea_popescu: chetty: nothing wrong with that, but I always thought bitcoin was a she
<< i think that's the traditional view. Bitcoinia!
benkay:
<ThickAsThieves> next youre gonna tell me that bitcoinpete isnt stoned-mp-blog-mode // kik
bitcoinpete: BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Spinoza's Politics?
<< good start
bitcoinpete: BingoBoingo: If the US couldn't even extradite Bobby Fischer in his lifetime, I dun see how they are extraditing mircea_popescu
<< long time ago. different rules now.
bitcoinpete: chetty: dun matter about reality, matters what folks think. Apocalyptic: it's exactly the other way around
<< pretty much
Apocalyptic:
<thestringpuller> fucking command line please // if only more people would realize that
benkay:
<danielpbarron> idk, maybe because i used it to host my homepage // lol go on i desire more lols danielpbarron
princessnell:
<ThickAsThieves> what i'm working on, includes a suggestion that there are multiple types of economies, each with roles/strengths
<< going from here, the types and properties are determined by the gene/culture interaction of the group that acts upon it
jurov: extract more absolute observations
<< a fool's errand
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves: RE: Not representing mining in any broad way.
<< You did operate assets that correlated to hashpower, so I just kinda figured you were a "mining something" you know?
ThickAsThieves:
<+asciilifeform> ThickAsThieves: if ECDSA pops, afaik all known coins go with it /// lotsa ways to kill a coin
Apocalyptic:
<asciilifeform> re: 'monero': 'Egalitarian proof of work'
<< do we need to read past this line ? // my thoughts exactly
jurov:
<thestringpuller> is there a legit ltc/btc exchange?
<< x-bt.com but there's no volume :(
ThickAsThieves:
<+thestringpuller> ThickAsThieves was a great mining representative but he exited the mining space. /// I dont think I ever represented mining in any broad way. Never sold or represented any hardware or tech.
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: mining is very scammy
<< well gigavps set the bar pretty low
Apocalyptic:
<danielpbarron> i wish the miners would get in the WoT and sell directly to individuals like me with cash to send in the mail // some do
benkay:
<pankkake> kraken still has way more // this surprised me.
chetty:
<rithm> he's not going to like being married
<< he?
moiety:
<mircea_popescu> [...] i think you misunderstand how josh works. he doesn't actually DO the things he claims to have done. he merely claims them.
<< lol true, we mustn't believe this until we see 6 confirmation articles he has moved in!
mircea_popescu: decimation> well with the quality of those arguments, the author is well on the way to becoming the anti-Moldbug
<< something tells me the author spent his youth clicking through cat pictures while someone on the phone was tryhing to educate them.
mircea_popescu:
<Apocalyptic> it's just that they have realized that trading 500 usd back and forth isn't really worth it
<< that'll be the day
mircea_popescu:
<bitcoinpete> moiety: lol wow, just read that zerlan thing. dood is crazy to spend $500k on a house just so he can make a headline on a weasly local rag.
<< i think you misunderstand how josh works. he doesn't actually DO the things he claims to have done. he merely claims them.
benkay:
<bitcoinpete> benkay ain't married. yet // hue
thestringpuller: moiety: and am i the only nonmarried person left on the planet
<< bitcoinpete is right, I am not married, but sometimes it sure feels like it ~_~
mircea_popescu:
<bitcoinpete> yes, i'm sure it was all circle hype
<< dudes wanna matter. who's to tell them they won't ?
bitcoinpete: "So, was Tuesday’s 10% leap in the bitcoin price triggered by good news – the favorable comments about bitcoin from a Fed advisory board, perhaps, or news of Circle’s launch at the Bitcoin 2104 conference?"
<< bwahahaha
benkay:
<mike_c> telling about is inevitable (as you know). now amounts.. // i share allocation to the nearest ten percent, updated once per...year. at most.
princessnell: '"Wade does not say Caucasians are better per se, merely better adapted (because of their genes) to the modern economic institutions that Western society has created, and which now dominate the world’s economy and culture."
< lie
mircea_popescu: rithm: it killed 'em for 35$ and now it kills them at $19
<< epic lmao.
mircea_popescu: princessnell: heysteve they will be first in line for redemption after the rev
<< i was going to say something like that.
mircea_popescu: HeySteve: lol peter schiff has changed his tune about bitcoin
<< but obviously no apology.
mircea_popescu: rithm: they aren't cashflow positive and they are burning through their initial endowment
<< exactly.
mircea_popescu: mike_c: has anyone made money ever going short diff? unstoppable force.
<< i think a few bets wonthat way, but still. drop in bucket.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Let us never forget Tortilla's conference where he lost thousands of bitcoins to a sauna
<< ahjahaha.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: assbot is definitely not posting MPEX stuff; all I've seen for the last 24 hours is havelock trades
<< looking into it
kakobrekla: fluffypony: the most trusted name in Bitcoin?
< ognasty obv.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: the most trusted name in Bitcoin?
<< well, anyone can claim anything right ?
danielpbarron:
<+BingoBoingo> Coinabul's a scam
<< someone i deal with is currently waiting for them to ship and it's been weeks or months at this point
mircea_popescu: bitcoingirl: what is this gribble that keeps coming up?
<< she's adowable isn't she.
kakobrekla: ist gov approve
<insert stuff here> crap ?
mike_c: asciilifeform: variant 1 - powerful machine, must sing, like 'harley davidson';
<< how else do you know it's working!
Apocalyptic:
<bitcoingirl> if i want to short BTC, what would be a good strategy? // borrow them from someone
mircea_popescu: pankkake: TradeFortress is now known as "Free hugs! ♥" on scamtalk
<< why is it always the scammers that push the purely formal "be nice to people" angle ? o wait! because that's how mimicry works, and that's what they are!
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete: Isn't moiety only getting 1 bitcent an hour? and this dude wants 100x that
<< if people could make a bitcoin/hour sitting in a us prison we'd definitely need to increase the block rewards.