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mircea_popescu: even if that were so, it's a different belief from impotence-on-wheels.
asciilifeform: 'first kill the inca, then we think what next' is imho 100% legit programme.
asciilifeform: ( and also not clear that it didn't desperately need burnin' down, for that matter )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it isn't clear to me that jacobins etc actually believed in anyffing other than 'let's burn shit down'
asciilifeform: painful to think on what most petrol in usa is used. i suspect -- this.
asciilifeform: there's a d00d on my street who goes on, i shit thee not, 10 minute long car trips. 8 or so times in a day. ( i think, to buy mcfood ) but just picture this .
asciilifeform: with auto rifle comes 'spray and pray, why learn to aim', with TB disk -- 'why care how many kb is 'hello world'', etc
mircea_popescu: and so let's talk about which can of pepsi etc.
mircea_popescu: in a sense, there's never been things that were contained of as little thingness. really, 1ppm or less ? such performance takes surprise, fear and a fanatical devotion to the pope.
asciilifeform: recall the 'small bullet'/'covering fire' thread aha
mircea_popescu: do you realise less than one in a million hits anything these days ?! never has the quarry/bullet relationship been this tenuous. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i suppose the best illustration for this problem is ye olde bullet. as proper a quanta of civilisation as one might ever pick.
mircea_popescu: then "consumerism" is the perfect hidey hut for this state of affairs -- "oh, we're dedicated to the production of things" "yes, for as long as they lack any substance".
mircea_popescu: in short, it's better because it produces no things and lots of words -- the ideal state for the jwz. that's what neil simon wants of life, yes, a situation where no things issue but as many words as possible.
mircea_popescu: basically, "all humans could be any other humans, and if they aren't it's because NOT YET". much better than whatever marat believed in, or the jacobins, or etc. and here by "better" we mean both a) inconsequential, improductive, entirely steriole and b) flashy, marketable
mircea_popescu: much like the united states were stuck because the only king they had avaialble didn't want the job, ended up enthroning a length of poster.
mircea_popescu: there's this nonsense that emerged as a replacement jolly-joker philosophy out of the french revolution. they had a major problem picking something to believe in, and eventually settled on "humanism" in the "enlightenment" sense of the term.
asciilifeform: hey i have nfi what is this mythical 'perfectability', on my home planet we have 'горбатого могила исправит' instead
a111: Logged on 2018-08-20 17:40 mircea_popescu: nobody ever learns from another other than in a metaphorical sense.
mircea_popescu: because, at the risk of repeating ourselves, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-20#1843034 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-08-20 18:05 asciilifeform: revisiting upthread : if mircea_popescu , or even say wykeham professor of logic , tells me 'yer a tard, problem is very simple' i'ma yes, nod, and not try to somehow argue that not. but it dun magically grow asciilifeform moar brain, can only go and think, and possibly one day think out of paper bag, how else.
mircea_popescu: and it crashes precisely with the bang of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-20#1843065 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the notion of this imaginary "perfectibility" of the individual human had to crash eventually.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-20 17:43 mircea_popescu: anyway, yes, "it makes me so nervous but i trust you" explains the difference -- slave's well advantaged wrt zek. who's a zek to trust, he's supposed to be something entirely else.
mircea_popescu: he same role as the chunk of wood on dog's collar, prevents it from going through the bars"
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 04:08 mircea_popescu: btw, did we do the "you too can be novelist, buy our narrative card deck and kit" 1800s us entrepreneurialism ?
mircea_popescu: rather, tis the necessary blossom of bogart's "all that dun ammount to a hill of beans in this crazy world". the necessary result of the "rationalist" fallacy (seen sprawling in say http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828645 ) and the century reversal of the penile fixation (from stuffy vienna's "civilised world" anxiety of "what if dad cuts it off" to today's stuffy washington's "civilised world" anxity of "what if it plays t ☝︎
asciilifeform: folx who wanted curtain call, jumped the wire, got shot fulla holes, errybody else -- not, no choppings or other oddities, nobody particularly eager to lie down in mengele's hospital.
asciilifeform: afaik in german camps nobody chopped off own hands, feet, there was no +ev in it
a111: Logged on 2018-08-20 18:21 mircea_popescu will confess he always found it suspicious how a buncha derps who "never heard of trilema" somehow magically decided they're really women trapped in wrong bodies the VERY FUCKING MOMENT male market value dropped to nothing at all.
asciilifeform: re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-20#1843083 item, i suspect it is same general psychopathology as prisoners who bang their heads, blow up own feet with blasting caps, etc to get a stint in hospital as break from butugychag uranium vein tunnel, 'care' from medics, etc ☝︎
asciilifeform: re 'johnson noise', absolutely troo, and can't think how could disagree
mircea_popescu: right. i pick heuristically rather than systematically.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: frederick's men were likewise free of sr-90 in bones, and corn syrop fat, and 9000+ else. i have nfi specifically what to pin whichever diff on, therefore.
mircea_popescu: how about that! isn't that the greatest pun that ever lived ?
mircea_popescu: the first and foremost task before every would-be "intelligence", artificial or otherwise, is to silence the johnson noise.
mircea_popescu: because this isn't a practical consideration.
asciilifeform: but afaik they aint
asciilifeform: it'd be 1 thing if they were all makin' their way, on anyffing that floats or flies, to thailand or wherever the aficionados live
mircea_popescu: somehow unknown in the days of Denn träf‘ jede Kugel apart ihren Mann wo kriegten die Könige ihre Soldaten dann?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: doubt that's it, the 'market value' of postoperative strange is ~= 0 in either male or female 'hut'
mircea_popescu will confess he always found it suspicious how a buncha derps who "never heard of trilema" somehow magically decided they're really women trapped in wrong bodies the VERY FUCKING MOMENT male market value dropped to nothing at all. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: at least we have a working model of how this whole "psychological transsexualism" business work. "trapped" my fucking left foot.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the correct thing to do, from pov of the 'kulaks', would be to 1) have nuke waste from ru flown in , and spread generously on nao-'government' land 2) for btc
mircea_popescu: no tulpas for you, eh ?
asciilifeform: i'm not in the habit of retrofitting a why to where there wasn't one. i suppose i have one set of jumper settings, she -- another, or i'd be in #darpa or wherever the capons and kanzures live, and not here
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/08/south-africas-first-targets-in-farm-seizure-program-are-private-hunting-reserves/ << Qntra - South Africa's First Targets In Farm Seizure Program Are Private Hunting Reserves
mircea_popescu: hey, doesn't need it, but can take it.
asciilifeform: lol i had nfi this needed a why
asciilifeform: i'd rather go straight to the very bottom of the deep sea, than to be 'saved' like the chix in that story was 'saved' ( not that noncuntbearing folx run much risk of this kind of fate, but there are cases on record )
mircea_popescu: the other side of "it works if you work it" being obviously that you gotta work it till it works.
a111: Logged on 2014-07-19 03:17 mircea_popescu: there for all eternity, to confront generations of bright teenagers that'll take about five minutes to figure out she's a furniture, and maybe not torture her for it. maybe.
asciilifeform: better like this, than like that : http://btcbase.org/log/2014-07-19#761495 ☝︎
asciilifeform: and still to this day working through how.
asciilifeform: for instance brin the elder told me ~20y ago that 'yer a tard', i did not argue then also.
asciilifeform: revisiting upthread : if mircea_popescu , or even say wykeham professor of logic , tells me 'yer a tard, problem is very simple' i'ma yes, nod, and not try to somehow argue that not. but it dun magically grow asciilifeform moar brain, can only go and think, and possibly one day think out of paper bag, how else. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform ty
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: feel free to go on whatever yer next agenda item were.
asciilifeform: rk 'A' ready for new tenant.
mod6: hey nice! Thanks Gentlemen.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 23:50 mircea_popescu: aww poor bb lost weight! how you holding up down there ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 16:30 BingoBoingo: more heavily to the end of the year? As it is I am still effectively paying out of my diminishing savings to live amongst the retards.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: danke schon ! lemme test fire it, brb
mircea_popescu is strategically "fortunate", no longer has to ask "now how is it i manage" a few years later. this, of course, happenstance.
mircea_popescu: now how is it that BingoBoingo manages ?
a111: Logged on 2018-08-20 17:39 asciilifeform: dun think there is much in the practicals for asciilifeform & similar zeks to learn from the gurlz tho.
asciilifeform: and hence http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-20#1843033 . even dumbest male zek understands, nobody is waiting with open arms for him , unless in role of 'bullock', cheap protein on the hoof. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: goes right in there with the whole http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22prophete%22 discussions etc.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-17 01:42 mircea_popescu: but the notion that anyone ever wanted a male is the most ridiculous nonsense ever. other than for steaks, xy has no use.
mircea_popescu: anyway, yes, "it makes me so nervous but i trust you" explains the difference -- slave's well advantaged wrt zek. who's a zek to trust, he's supposed to be something entirely else. ☟︎
asciilifeform: makes sense then.
mircea_popescu: well, she graduated with honros from college, apparently that does it.
mircea_popescu: nobody ever learns from another other than in a metaphorical sense. ☟︎
asciilifeform: dun think there is much in the practicals for asciilifeform & similar zeks to learn from the gurlz tho. ☟︎
asciilifeform: [insert the mandatory mircea_popescu thread here]
mircea_popescu: but then again, everyone gotta fuck his own ass in his own bed of nails, or w/e it is.
mircea_popescu: it's fucking easy to leave, and you're a moron for staying this long.
mircea_popescu: you keep telling yourself this story, whatever.
asciilifeform: in 'su 2.0', deceptively easy to physically leave
asciilifeform: lol, if asciilifeform knew 'what can do', would be buying plane ticket and going, doing it...
mircea_popescu: whereas the females (generally enriched by a divorce, more rarely by a "career" ie stealing from men via tax/administrative apparatus rather than via "alimony"/court apparatus) stick and try to hilary.
asciilifeform: so esr tank runs dry in 15 y instead of 5, big fat diff, neh
mircea_popescu: usually males, and usually after a divorce, whence they discovered that the land is utterly hostile.
mircea_popescu: what it usually is, is dork made some $$$ and instead of going the http://trilema.com/2013/fried-chicken/#selection-21.0-27.251 route (ie, aspiring to local politics) went the offshore route.
asciilifeform: what then is it usually
asciilifeform: oh hm, i thought it were
mircea_popescu: that's rarely wghat this is.
asciilifeform: but who am i to say.
asciilifeform: it isn't clear to me that old folx who cash their usg pension in bananistan instead of miami in any meanigful sense 'left'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they're ubiquitous. nobody with any sense stays in the ustard lands ; which is why the us is so overpoweringly stupid. suffers from the africa effect -- everyone who's still there, still there FOR A REASON.
mircea_popescu: so by this logic, the obvious thing i'd want to do is go to the place where idiots just like him take whores hired for the weekend, to trade my decade+ committed personal whores for their mercenary randos. because totally, i can't hire my own weekend whores if i feel like it, i gotta participate in the best buy of cunt.
asciilifeform: i'll admit to a bit of surprise re the recurrence of the 'retireded gringo' in mircea_popescu's field reports, i was under impression that these were rare outside of reservation
mircea_popescu: have nothing to say, and like the fat loser in http://trilema.com/2017/cemetery-junction/ ~rely~ on the woman not understanding them in the most mechanical of senses.
mircea_popescu: like, we totally gotta go there someday. because the fact that their local "girlfriend" who "isn't a puta" but "you support, you know, financially" and "don't know if she'll be around in six months, or for that matter two" is immediately gravitating to my girls has ~0 to do with the fact they've been here years and speak less spanish than my bmw, and with the fact that the REASON they never learned it is because they fucking
mircea_popescu: which somehow reminds me -- the general reaction of the average retarded gringo ("retired" here because "Rich" etc dontcha know) upon running across my peculiar domestic arrangements ("she's my slave") is to propose they're hip to the whole scene, and mention swinger's clubs.
mircea_popescu: i suppose on list of inca taboos. share != star-e.
asciilifeform: shareware, that is
asciilifeform: whatever happened to the name, tho, i dun recall seeing it in print for , idk, 20y nao
asciilifeform: 'But you can also choose to pay. And every time a reader like you does business with me and chooses to pay even though they have an alternative, we see the real worth...' << shareware's been around since '80s, nuffin new here
asciilifeform: ( http://raganwald.com seems to be full of snoar )