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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform romania had this brief surge in the late 1800s / early 1900s. her pov is factual, ro army had better officers than ~most anyone, for instance, and it was proven in both the extrication of the tsar from his inept turkis venture and in ww1.
mircea_popescu: ie, it would have been ~better~, and for all of these dorks, to have obeyed ceausescu in '71, and in '83, and whenever else, than to adlai about.
mircea_popescu: witness how the "boierii mintii" to this fucking day have on display neither a) work to compare with trilema or else b) the required prosternation before it.
mircea_popescu: qutie exactly.
mircea_popescu: what elite ? the pliiceanu corps ? that fat pig above ? gunoi dinescu ? laisses, as inept as ceausescu might've been politically, the culturniks were inept ^ inept.
mircea_popescu: in his relations to, eg, the "intellectual elite" (in their own mind, and exactly nowhere else) as gathered before him at say neptun, or mangalia, he was entirely correct. and his pointing out that they have yet work to do before their workproduct is as tall as he stands is sound, if unpleasant.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman the point of the discussion, though, is to not end up accidentally banning shitting just because ceausescu was known to shit.
mircea_popescu: the country never recovered.
mircea_popescu: whole thing went bankrupt in the 70s, by 72 it was dead. he decided to blame "the jews", as he understood them, hence "show off those slick ny bankers, pay debt".
mircea_popescu: as incidentally (and incompehendingly, to him) oil was high then (arab embargo) he decided to center this mini-empire on oil production and refining.
mircea_popescu: other than escaping the soviets, he attempted a sort of mini-imperialism, the cutest tchotchke show you could ever imagine, romania as an imperial power of a rag tag group of nowhere countries (including columbia, we discussed the very unhappy lulz of romania when those doods decided to just walk out of "agreements" -- mirroring exactly say spain, over the centuries)
mircea_popescu: he then implemented his own state apparatus. there's nothing peculiar about this -- incoming us president also gets rid of old regime bureaucracy, at least if he has any fucking sense.
mircea_popescu: let's do a quick ro commie likbez : ceausescu took over in '65. he got rid of dej-era leftovers as part and parcel of continuing dej's own policy of escaping the soviets. this the west ineptly (but in typical self-centered manner) misreported as "loosening".
mircea_popescu: this isn't made up, either, various high officials joking about it, "what, ima desert in moscow ?! these schmucks have it worse than we do"
mircea_popescu: the 60s worked signfiicantly better in east berlin than i nwest berlin. the 80s miserably -- but mind that at the time, the russkis were doing ~even worse~.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-13#1901954 << you wanna discuss the fellow in the strict terms of 1984-1989 ? he found himself promoted (by lack of actual alternative at the time, ftr, not so much he took step forward as everyone else took steep absence) in '65. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-13#1901947 <<< ahahaha fucktards won't even admit. it's because the boys are mean that they're fat and slow ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ow megalog!
mircea_popescu: yeah well.
mircea_popescu: there can genuinely arise the situation where people who aren't necessarily trying to find their way to arby's / olive garden / we are nevertheless sick of polenta and saving to buy a lobster.
mircea_popescu: nt resulting in ordering out" is a little shakily footed.
mircea_popescu: dunno argument was "low hanging fruit". they wanna see what happens at high energy. the only way to see is to make. approximately situation of "when it comes to cooking, don't have to order out. alf has this method of making polenta, works well!" "and if i want lobster ?" "well then you gotta buy a lobster". getting indignant over how "wanting lobster only serves to drive an impossible wedge between budget and mariscos mercha
mircea_popescu: ima not bother to reiterate the period thread.
mircea_popescu: if there's even gonna be a next time. i doubt it.
mircea_popescu: next time, they ain't losing the "debate".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, do you recall all the wank re cern cyclotron, "what if it brings about end of world ?!?!?!"
mircea_popescu: i guess this is a workable forcing of the metaphore.
mircea_popescu: consider the traditional antisemitism -- a cluster of lumphocytes around a very real problem, yes, but SUBJECTIVE PROBLEM OF THE JEWS. not irritating "the organism" as such in any sense, beyond the very obvious an' deeply human "you folk can't be this fucking stupid!" thing ☟︎
mircea_popescu: well, maybe not every, but plenty of contemporraneous ones. (see ? again with the "is pig female or is female pig" conundrum. captive in history as we are...)
mircea_popescu: oink-oinkelite.
mircea_popescu: but there ~IS~ something fundamentally piggish about the contemporaneous female, if the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-13#1901725 illustration didn't bring it into focus. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it is a constant complaint of the actual females, this. and one i always agree with -- when they bring it. because yes, there's nothing fundamentally female about the pig.
mircea_popescu: the qualiy of your summaries recommends you to writing on bimbo.club.
mircea_popescu: "i made chair, for man to sit in, with my hands as directed by my head, and an endless supply of stirpituri & tirituri, with my cunt, as directed by the cock going into it. WOE IS ME!"
mircea_popescu: she hangs herself, over sheer despair, at the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-15#1670676 coming out of her. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: even though i know how it ends.
mircea_popescu: i'd read it.
mircea_popescu: "roxy you dumb whore, get your sons women like you, not like your dumb mother."
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to suleyman -- it is ~conceivable~, and definitely an excellent premise for an umberto eco-like novel, that suleyman gave up his harem to try and produce a harem generator that didn't suck.
mircea_popescu: lotta that in france.
mircea_popescu: "but mp, it worked. and we loved it". at least the horses were alive, that merits something. "but our figments and hallucinations -- just as alive to us!!!"
mircea_popescu is vaguely curious if a century hence there will be tears shed over "all the destruction". someone's gonna cry for systemd, what.
mircea_popescu: is the only distinction that i don't actually hang the various negrated morons ? because i can swear it is to me a merely cosmetic matter, i would not lift finger one to stop it if they were in fact beheaded for it, and stalin did MORE than me in this vein, hence http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-02#1877763 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and i daresay that the thing is working admirably well ; but not nearly as well as the sovok mechanism did in fact work -- the imperial officers would never have beaten the wehrmacht, for one thing.
mircea_popescu: in any case, you will notice that we ourselves are purging this supposed "elite" and growing one, literally, from our arse.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman but ~which people~ ? whole point of industrialization is moving from the traditional to the modern. is the idea that ceausescu is somehow personally responsible for the fact ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: any kind of ro elite was long gone by the time ceausescu came in, he gets to hide behind ye olde "greaua mostenire" trope. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: diana_coman what, the horses ? the "killed elite" thing would be what, i gh duca ? (and guess what, digging for that reference i also ran into -- apparently there's a piece re the afore mentioned prince) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: suleyman had the worst harem possible, his mom picked it.
mircea_popescu: it is quite the case usistani "superheroes" are mcdonaldization of greek pantheon, yeah.
mircea_popescu: i don't imagine the concept of "god" is per se harmful. greeks also had, and various others.
mircea_popescu: i suppose matter should remain open for he who can be arsed to read on it ; that's the best i have for a theory in the meanwhile.
mircea_popescu: yes, but his mother got poisoned as a little boy, and up until 15 he was... a peasant ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wasn't ivan raised by a regency, in the manner the prince of talleyrand-perigord also describes, "as a vagrant or the poorest of the poor" ?
mircea_popescu: this is also true.
mircea_popescu: this is true.
mircea_popescu: needless to say, orc thought is dumb.
mircea_popescu: comprehending is a draw on mental energy ; comprehending women perhaps the largest ; unschooled orcs perceive this issue whereby the costs mount exponentially and the marginal benefit is nil (you can only fuck one hole at a timwe anyways!!).
mircea_popescu: "why should i be bothered with a bunch of them". henry also serial-monogamized, rather than make them eat eachj other out.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-13#1901730 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: also very effectual at quelling the female will-to-spawn. "do you understand what will happen if you make me an idiot ?"
mircea_popescu: but see, one needn't be stalin. officers in question had all they needed, did not apply.
mircea_popescu: "chitlins, what do they call single-node trees in the republic ?"
mircea_popescu: yes well. the word for that is manalone.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform correct algo comes with no guarantee of fitness for particular purpose.
mircea_popescu: it is the correct algo. cut off the lost node and pressure the last conneected node.
mircea_popescu: b) i would deliver ~the wife~, naked other than for being beaten black and blue, straight out of the trunk into the courtyard of her ancestral home, and publicly explain to her father that if i ever hear of any of their intolerable kin he'll hear obituaries.
mircea_popescu: a) i would ~ignore~ the sons. you've seen me do it before, yet it's not obvious to you. death of heroes belongs to they showing some promise, why muddy it up. what if i mixed some mud in your cocktail ? i would not insult the heroes-in-baking by this addition.
mircea_popescu: mnope.
mircea_popescu: we're just a buncha officers yes.
mircea_popescu: mno, i'm not stalin.
mircea_popescu: now you tell what would mp do.
mircea_popescu: suppose we're all us, but we're not us in the following sense(s) : a) we're all married, in the sovok style ; b) we all have sons, about g_l's age ; c) it comes to light that http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-07#1900877 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do me a favour, let's go through an what-if.
mircea_popescu: not exactly. there must be a thread, uniting things to the center of the world. if there's no thread, there has to be a change. if the thread's valid but interrupted at center you have to recenter.
mircea_popescu: it is very difficult to surround self with viziers who understand what you don't. those are called co-caesars in rome.
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: was retroactived into "oh, he had been sick", but this is both factually untrue and completely unknown at the time. in the sense "obama is president of china" is completely unknown at this time.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he died november 5th. article was oct 30th.
mircea_popescu: but anyway -- disgustingly fat, yes, pinnacle of asskissing, yes, sent weekly letters "tov. shoemaker, to whom i remain most loyal servant" in prison, yes.
mircea_popescu: people even comment "wtf, he's not dead" and shit.
mircea_popescu: to this day i remain most proud of this particular instance, out of all of trilema's time-bending achievements.
mircea_popescu: i can see it, "worked for stalin coincidentally, had ceased working by 70s". notwithstanding that the EXACT picture perfect rendition of said bootlick : http://trilema.com/2010/la-moartea-lui-adrian-paunescu/ (a fellow who i declared dead on trilema a week before he actuallty died, ro press "omitted to notice", by the way, a week later, when the "suprising event" occured)
mircea_popescu: there's a somewhere in the log /me explains how this all works.
mircea_popescu: and this because he ~opted not to~ (unawaredly, but just as opted) through the exact process of "this is too stupid to understand". it is too stupid to understand ~deliberately~ and FOR THAT PURPOSE.
mircea_popescu: and he systematically didn't understand the ~only set of dorks who belonged in jail, as a sort of public service, for re-realization.
mircea_popescu: the problem is -- he tended to imprison the dorks he understood more than the dorks he didn't.
mircea_popescu: this is not true, plenty of dorks ended up in prison.
mircea_popescu: ceausescu who didn't touch pantsuitism was certainly a better deadman than the imaginary one who had.
mircea_popescu: so yes, the principal driver behind " very little 'prophylactic' depantsuiting in his reign" (which is factual) was... very little capacity to conceptualize the pantsuitism. because of the EXACT http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-12#1901577 thought process (though he's not nearly as elegant in his thinking, nor did he have enough sense to keep a fucking blog, so as to GET this elegant.) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo right ?
mircea_popescu: and didn't, for 30-odd years.
mircea_popescu: and sure, it does make sense. but THEY make no sense to him whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: and to him, this makes sense. "what sort of moron would you have to be, to not understand than 100`000 bakers' for 100`000 places that had no bakers' since aurelian's withdrawal is way the fuck a bigger deal than 5 homos upset because nobody is using the right zhernouns."
mircea_popescu: so yes, the building of bakers' in ~all villages, so the dorks can have day-old bread rather than week-old bread, is an important point.
mircea_popescu: when it joined the eu, the % of barnhouses in the eu incresed like 30 fold.
mircea_popescu: the guy points out that almost all villages got bakers' built. this is factually true, and important -- gotta understand romania is TODAY, and STILL, the one country in europe where 1/3 or so of schools have no running water.
mircea_popescu: the communications breakdown during the ~only almost-meaningful attempt during "trial" is imo relevant. looky : http://trilema.com/2011/procesul-ceausescu/#selection-665.0-665.87
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dood was quite unsophisticated, had this very... well, fundamentally a peasant's worldview, deeply optimistic and over-inclined to fit-in-head. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (remarkably pantsuit, the fat orc, btw. synchronicity to a t, including "russian secret services!!!" wank while it was still fashionable in washington, last narrative gasp before teh dnc died.