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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pity the thelema doods didn't put a card spade inside their figure, it'd have been a great gypsy-like icon
asciilifeform: that isn't adequately represented in a save-and-die
asciilifeform: it was a trololol.
ben_vulpes: "slap a license on it!!!"
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=103&cpage=1#comment-3946 so we click on the "recommendation", find a 404. ty so much for recommending expiring licenses.
phf: ben_vulpes: i don't know how to solve that problem, but "i know, sexp will help us!" is not. you basically need to redesign a bunch of things about reader, have a custom save format (that will look closer to (DEFUN FOO () (IF BAR QUX (PROGN ...)))). sexp nature will help you ~a bit~, but like mp said it's closer to "let's save AST", because sexp don't preserve nearly enough required info ☟︎
mircea_popescu: phf nevertheless, it does say "AS WE KNOW IT". clearly it's a knowledge problem not a being problem neh.
mircea_popescu: (argentina being one of the few places where used machinery is valued above same machinery new, perhaps on a derivation of the medieval "woman with children worth more, proven functional cuntperl implementation", it might even have made business sense to sell it.)
mircea_popescu: ostensibly they'll park theirs right next to mine, we can get a diesel generator burning tailgate party going
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didntcha have a marine diesel
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, local power co notifies me that "in order to continue providing high level of services" etc they'll be installing a gasoline backup generator, which will result in two "very short" power interruptions.
phf: for all other cases it'll ignore the lines that have whitespace changes, but if you make a change that has whitespace change on one line, and then substantial change on another line, that relies on new whitespace, then yeah you get borked formatting
phf: well, it's fundamentally different things, but for your purposes it'll be different when there's information in whitespace. like say it's a form that has text in it, and you modify text inside that form, ec.
trinque: sounds like it'd produce a patched item that is formatted incorrectly, which would suck
ben_vulpes: is there a difference between ignoring whitespace and only examining the forms that changed?
phf: ben_vulpes: yeah, lisp image. fwiw if you're trying to ignore whitespace (since you're going to lose that information in a sexp, unless you preserve that information, in which case you will have to patch it same way), then diff already does it: it's called ignore whitespace (-b or -w or -B depending on usecase)
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 14:50 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1578953 << just fyi, while you can diff an intermediate ~state~ of an image as a sexp, common lisp's input is a ~character stream~. builtin dispatch ~mostly~ operates on forms (like #p #. (concatenate 'string "foo" "bar")), but not always, like #\; comment reads till end of line.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1579050 << "image" as in "lisp image"? the reason i ask is because reindenting blocks of code for a multiple-value-bind makes unnecessary patch noise. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: (e.g. i have a 'mac air' here that won't go past 10.6)
ben_vulpes: i have a vault of them!
ben_vulpes: "you know, if you can squeeze a tenth of a percent of a performance increase out of their chips over the course of your career there, you'll be sitting pretty with that dumptruck of printolade showing up at your house every two weeks!"
ben_vulpes: "i gave up on understanding processors a while ago"
phf: well, it being a scifi series achilles's immortality is one of the ways in which "quantum probability" something something "destruction of known universe"
asciilifeform: and eventually this becomes a regular thing and universe OOMs
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: lol. ANyways crawlspace is a way to put house on foundation. Crawlspace on slope is way to develop lot that will require debris removal during resale.
asciilifeform: aaalso deedbot skipped a trilema?!
BingoBoingo: That poor house is set to become something other than level in a period of time that depends on local rainfall.
BingoBoingo: AHA, no not mine. Found on a "How not to do it" thread.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this is almost same as a photo i posted from under where i sit.
mircea_popescu: that's a holiday ?
asciilifeform: i knew a d00d who got weimaraner, brought it to office, it gnawed chairs, pant legs
trinque knows a person who owns a weimaraner, thing paces in her back yard back and forth between back door and window so much there's no grass in the path, has various other compulsions ☟︎
mircea_popescu: incidentally, much to my vague meh, nobody seems to have caught on and started a study in terms of "modern domestic terrorists, medieval flagellants"
asciilifeform pictures a valhalla full of anorexic gurlz
mircea_popescu: o wow, such a goldmine. check this out :
mircea_popescu: well if it worked then you could install a laughmeter on their ipad and any complaint of unhappiness would similarly be referred to the graph.
phf: (i had a good result with a scale before. "here's a scale, write your weight daily in this calendar, in fucking killos, what the fuck" then every single complaint is brought back to the data, if actually intelligent start noticing disparity. "i'm FAAAT but the weight went down by a killo in the past two months, wtf" etc)
mircea_popescu: you can have youths with two of three : a) "civilised world" native ; b) intelligent and c) not self-harming.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1578958 << not that big of a lol. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and moreover, when the fuck is it "try AND SEE what happens" a criteria ? no, the excuses are always there, "marks are so unfair" blabla.
phf: huuh two thirds of these ana recommendations are basic food hygiene, and how i've been eating for most of my life. the rest is a bit over the top, but doesn't look particularly bad
asciilifeform: i toured a '5 bedroom' where each was the size of a large phone booth
asciilifeform: 'A three-bedroom semidetached house sells for about $430,000, local real estate agents say.' << lel just like suburns of washington
asciilifeform: well not necessarily 'have problem', but say a chinese d00d wants to visit actual britain, vs cairo
asciilifeform: btw possibly this village is a tourist trap because not yet allah-snackbar ??
mircea_popescu: imagine, you're not allowed to pick up a woman and fuck her ; you're required to pay someone to pick women and fuck them and film the process and pass it to you!
mircea_popescu: in brunei, porn is forbidden, fucking your wife is not ; in the us porn is acceptable, "marital rape" is a thing.
mircea_popescu: THEY WONT FUCKING YIELD. exactly 0 approach for the actual issues involved, no you can't own your body, no you can't want actualities ; please consider THIS approach to a purely symbolic relationship with reality. oh, "imagining yourself as a 3yo" won't do it for you ? ok, ok, there's other layers of indirection available! pick one! YOU MUST PICK ONE!
pete_dushenski: why kidlington ? close enough to london, quiet enough to be affordable, clean air, safe. what else could a pekingian want ?
mircea_popescu: http://thinintentionsforever.blogspot.com.ar/p/pro-ana-tips.html << check out the think btw. the deep carnal nature of the disorder/"disorder" (really, eat naked in front of a mirror ?) and the purely symbolic approach of the self-appointed healers in the comment section.
phf: "reduce group risk weighted assets by about US$290 billion" ... "we will be selling our operation in Turkey. We’ll also be selling our operation in Brazil, but plan to maintain a modest corporate banking presence to serve about 300 international clients in Brazil. We are actually going to keep Mexico" ... "So we moved away from the World’s Local Bank" ... "We’ve exited 15 countries, reducing from 87 to 73 so far, and whole lines of
phf: "This is part of the group’s global review of businesses and represents a significant step in HSBCs goal to optimise its global network and reduce complexity outlined during the HSBC Investor Update on June 9, 2015." "optimise and reduce" huh
mircea_popescu: speaking of fiat world : citibank had a branch in brunei since 1972 ; it was closed in 2014. hsbc is closing down. guess who received permission to open this spring ?
asciilifeform: man in a nuthouse. he cowers in the corner, won't let anyone come near, in very odd pose. finally the d00dz in white coats come. they ask: ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: part of all of this - "asciilifeform" "framedragged" will be permanently associated with "a list of derpy boxes" huh.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/65F341354F31545C93BE093F7D772392E757E7F7379E2F1A43817607FBE671AF << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1508...6879 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '77.93.194.69 (ssh-rsa key from 77.93.194.69 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (ns1.a-webhosting.cz. CZ)
deedbot hands you a broomstick.
mircea_popescu: yeah that's a point.
deedbot hands you a broomstick.
mircea_popescu: the notion is not so unlike "what if we diffed asts". it's a bad idea because now you want the "encoding".
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 05:28 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: is there an argument for vetoing out-of-hand a v/patch implementation that diffs at the sexpr level rather than the line level?
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1578953 << just fyi, while you can diff an intermediate ~state~ of an image as a sexp, common lisp's input is a ~character stream~. builtin dispatch ~mostly~ operates on forms (like #p #. (concatenate 'string "foo" "bar")), but not always, like #\; comment reads till end of line. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: that they picked a specialist which handles bitcoin storage is not germane ; the rat also picked a specialist which handles the fats cycle, called a liver. this doesn't mean the rat dun eat, nor does it mean charcoal is cheese or vice-versa.
mircea_popescu: gimme a break.
mircea_popescu: moreover... why do you think a company would take bitcoin, but refund in fiatola ?
mircea_popescu: kinda the deep reason smart people are so very hesitant to join anything. which is all the better - a divided elite is how the plebs get to pretend they matter.
Framedragger: probably me on #b-a :p
asciilifeform: (can you picture using a box with no 'esc' key for text entry?!)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1578956 << recall, they stopped making these recently. i literally bought ghe LAST one (2, actually, 1 for a relative) ☝︎
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1578982 << fuck i just got it. been too long. not a WHOLE btc. D'OH ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 05:28 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: is there an argument for vetoing out-of-hand a v/patch implementation that diffs at the sexpr level rather than the line level?
jurov: "vetoing out-of-hand a v/patch implementation that diffs at the sexpr level rather than the line level"
mircea_popescu: c'est interdit a interdire lol.
mircea_popescu: well, but did you have a reasoning behind it ?
mircea_popescu: anyway ; intel knows him, "one of the more accurate predictors of apple's earnings" ; guy's been announcing "apple building new company" bla bla for a year
mircea_popescu: i have nfi who beil cybart is ; but the article in question is spun copy, a notch under of the conceptual value of fanfiction and about on par with wikipedia articles.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: is there an argument for vetoing out-of-hand a v/patch implementation that diffs at the sexpr level rather than the line level? ☟︎☟︎
trinque: "the internet is a place I make inane noises with other creatures to soothe myself"
shinohai: Well at least he's not a tulpa.
zKawaiiKittyz: oh, I'm a cat xD
BingoBoingo: You never answered one of "Who are you" or "Who is your Daddy and what does he do?" Pick a question and answer it.
BingoBoingo: We don't even know if there is a you!
shinohai: A problem solved quite well by following the instructions within these hallowed walls.
zKawaiiKittyz: this has been a rising problem I've noticed -_-
BingoBoingo: Anyways zKawaiiKittyz Here's a sample way to anwer the question: "My dad's a gynecologist, he looks at vaginas all day long"
BingoBoingo: It's a simple question.
BingoBoingo: But introductions help make the world go round. Let's play a game. It's called Who is your daddy and what does he do?
asciilifeform: it isn't even entirely clear that 'is this a tumour cell?' is a computable function.
asciilifeform: which accounts for heroic 'cures', their cancers would last 3 seconds in a healthy organism
asciilifeform: only semi-relatedly, rat models have a very obvious (to outsider) problem, that academitards pretend is not problem at all
mircea_popescu: (general here means exactly the same it does when i say we have a general cure for infection. it's not that nobody can die of infections ; but that there's antibiotics, which mostly work.)
mircea_popescu: which is the deep reason for a major redistribution of research resources from other fashionable causes to cancer in thepast decade, as cartman aptly observed.
mircea_popescu: there's been various successful tests, including prostate-cancer-rat achieving complete remission through 1 iv application. so we have maybe 50-50 chances to see a ~general~ cure for cancer within our lifetime.
mircea_popescu: since recently dna understanding improved significantly, and the workings of the immune system, esp in its binding functions, became more understood ; and since complex molecule synthesis muchly developed as well, a universal cure for cancer based on the principle of getting alpha-amanitin bound to a specific tumour cell seeking protein seems altogether very feasible.
mircea_popescu: and to round off the "fungi are interesting" general literacy thread - the way most (and the most) poisonous mushrooms work is through a substance that inhibits extremely selectively rna polymerase 2. this makes the affected cells unable to reproduce, and hence the "eat destroying angel, get cramps/diarhea in three days, drop dead in 7" effect.
mircea_popescu: there's a good few millions of species ; 10k would be a negligible dent.
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> i dunno, output a list of 10k items ? <
mircea_popescu: (actually, for they reading to educate : most fungi live in more or less mutualistic relationships with lichens ; a few with trees, which are advancedlichens)
mircea_popescu: yes, but there's a very few fungi that are industrially relevant
asciilifeform: fungi also. radiosterilization is a thing