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mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-09#1580642 << all oif you have it easy. i once had 150+ cvs sent within 24 hours to a (sales) management position ALL by waitresses, cooks, and other STRICTLY unqualified people. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: 'twas a solid call.
trinque: "uh like a second per but not always basically when the receive buffer for you is full but also reasons"
trinque avoided adding any kind of rate limiting to the bot code because I have yet to find a straight answer on appropriate rate
ben_vulpes: anyone have a node at hand, care to share what height you're at?
asciilifeform: incidentally : for so long as block verification remains O(N) and serial, trb is vulnerable to a very trivial malformed-block ddos
asciilifeform: ( if anyone can come up with a rigorous experiment to measure the whether and how-much of this -- do speak up.)
asciilifeform: this is because there is -- and afaik to this very day -- a thick layer of prb between any of us and any miner.
asciilifeform: witness mircea_popescu's frustrations every time he transmits a tx and nothing happens
asciilifeform: the 'fixed peers' thing is actually the tip of a very nontrivial iceberg, because bitcoin was not in fact designed as a 'wotronic' mechanism, and it is not clear that 'nothing to allcomers' is safely retrofittable on it
asciilifeform: mining - afaik - remains a thing that happens among the heathens strictly.
phf: i have a patch that i'm working on that might help towards that goal
asciilifeform: phf: it is not a trivial change, because if you are not careful you can end up in solipsist world where you can be driven into chain split by a d00d mining on old rusty ford pinto
asciilifeform: sorta why i have not touched trb in quite a spell -- there is nothing left to do that is not 'a mutilation' imho
phf: ben_vulpes: connect to these and only these is a trivial change, since the logic all sits within 30 lines of code, but ^
asciilifeform: in the sense where there is no mechanism for safely preempting a stalled conversation with another node, or allocating time quanta, or even (gasp) allowing >1 operation across blockchain or mempool in PARALLEL
asciilifeform: somewhat surprisingly -- it really is a dumb surveybot, does not seem to do anything peculiar other than the >0.8 test.
asciilifeform: to get a sense if their overall census is even slightly believable
asciilifeform: trinque: the heathens only list a node if it reports >0.8 iirc.
phf: i know mitutoyo, but the joke doesn't quite work with a jp company. "honorable datskovskiy san received boxes 1 through 5 with replica card prints cut to 0.1mm, 0.2mm, 0.3mm, 0.5mm and 0.7mm allowed error margins, that mitutoyo san found presumptuous to include with own humble compliments"
asciilifeform: how many folks did they 'pay' with a 'no thx, maybe later, thx for the phreeee code'
trinque: they paid with a job
trinque: over a few days
trinque had a job which involved sniffing / mangling packets; task to get hired was to write a parser for yahoo IM
trinque: so I know how to shift a register, what
trinque: write controlling code, come back in a week or w/e
trinque: wouldn't it be more interesting to give them a problem that implies they know asm ? i.e. there is a robotic arm in a factory, RISC processor, here are the motions it should perform at these intervals
asciilifeform: picture if you were interviewing a freight truck driver and you are presented with a fella who has nfi what is brake, what is gas pedal.
trinque: also, a filter
asciilifeform: nobody cares how quickly you 'helloworld', but if instead you write down 'why should i have to do this, i expected to see a fat offer!!!' the interviewer learns something quite important. ☟︎
Framedragger: trinque: yeah, hm. i've seen more than one instance on that. i see what you mean. it was basically a case of, from what i gathered, "data sent; waiting for response; not a single byte sent back by server". either because server wasn't http, or some "hang forever, fucker" anti-DoS measure..
phf: it was helloworld, but randomized out of a hat. i think it was a number theoretical problem, like here's a property of a number, write a check for that property
phf: but their screening was half hour collabedit and the entirety of it was "here's a problem, now hack, ok half hour's up"
phf: one place (outsourced quants) brought out three laptops and asked me which environment i prefered, i thought that was pretty classy. (they had a really wide range, because every time someone said something obscure, they'd put it on the machine. like the linux box had emacs, with a lot of package preloaded and reasonably configured, mac box had intellij and such)
phf: ben_vulpes: that's sop now. i sort of go for interviewes every month or so to see what's out there, etc. and the past two years i had a lot of http://collabedit.com screenings
Framedragger: ben_vulpes: nice. re. curl timeouts, yeah you need them, otherwise it'll hand for a long time on some of those IPs (i saw this) :)
ben_vulpes: someone once wanted me to code in a google doc
phf: a shared online webpad bullshit they get, "ssh into my box so you can have a sane editor" they start freaking out
phf: one guy ("10 years of unix experience") canceled the screening because i told him he'll have to ssh into a shared screen and i'll ask him some questions
phf: literally nobody can tell me what the potential downsides of `for i in xrange(1000000): a += "foo"` are
phf: i've been asking people to implement StringIO/StringBuilder/string-output-stream pattern. my original thinking was that while totally self contained problem it's a nice segue into gc, memory/runtime tradeoffs, threading, etc. just a baseline "are we on the same page" phone screening. i've went through about 35 "send us your resume" people and none of them could do it :o
mircea_popescu: "here's a dull knife and a ballsac sling, bring a bear."
mircea_popescu: "find a wife, you have a week, let me know what you spent".
mircea_popescu: no i mean as a standard exam problem
asciilifeform: re: ^, must point out, that robot eats a number of other items in addition to mains current (replacement parts, made of ~entire mendeleev table, as well as petro-plastics)
a111: Logged on 2016-12-08 17:28 mircea_popescu: there are a number of reasons for this. 1. robots eat electricity ; humans eat a sort of oil derivate ; see http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-05#1577962 ; 2. robots are an industrial product, this costs ~nothing while "well brainwashed humans" are the equivalent of a "well behaved wife". tell you what, here's a half billion girlies in your "civilised world", you have a week to find a wife. let me know what you spent.
mircea_popescu: phf ikr ? but for my peace of mind, it's about as special as apricot's a special fruit, right ?
asciilifeform: '“The intel on this wasn’t 100 percent,” he said. However, he refused to dismiss outright the claims in the online articles, conceding only that there were no children “inside that dwelling.” He also said that child slavery was a worldwide phenomenon.'
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-09#1580179 << goes back to tmsr compiling things. instead of the obvious conclusion "most applicants don't know how to program and most interviewers don't know how to interview" you get insanity "this problem is a special problem!!1" ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's an italicization of ~entire page, and you gotta fire up a graphical wwwtron to see it
ben_vulpes: no i get it, your turbine sees a lot of flow, and has an efficiency of less than one percent
asciilifeform: and hmm mircea_popescu i think you left a <i> open somewhere in the endnotes
ben_vulpes: i'll take a look at where it is in the list of phucked ips later and make a call as to whether its worthwhile to kill it and start over
mircea_popescu: hot damn that was a heavy piece.
mircea_popescu: if you are stewarding an apple tree, you'll fucking deliver apples till the day you die ; you do not come up with a way to make the apple tree make shitty plums.
mircea_popescu: sure but what's that to do with anything ? "on my car which has an engine, adjusting the intake valves does things" "he's got a bycicle!"
asciilifeform: 'character'=='byte' is retarded even if you are a roman and only intend to use the letters on the alphabetic kbd till the day you die
asciilifeform: could it really be?!111 a bunch of pro liars LIED?!11111111?
asciilifeform: also there are a bunch of IIS boxes in there?!
Framedragger: prolly need to build a pipeline for postprocessing all phuctor finds....
mircea_popescu: lmao i just noticed i said "martial is a good starting point, his english is".
asciilifeform: 94.107.193.60:80 >> 'For a Refendum in Belgium' . 'A democratie is based on the voice of the people. Only the Refendum can grant this respect'
trinque: asciilifeform: I guess that was a cooler todd
mircea_popescu: Framedragger go by their office for a b2b proposal, show them chatlog ?
mircea_popescu: it's of strict entomological interest, a la malbolge.
mircea_popescu: hungarian is a language best not learned.
mircea_popescu: trinque http://trilema.com/2013/life-in-the-time-of-empire/ << martial is a good starting point, his english is very good but very plain ; there's a celebrated collection of medieval poems (carmina burana) which works well because very close to modern conventions.
trinque: Framedragger: is there a list somewhere ?
asciilifeform: http://80.1.67.37/login.aspx << i've never heard of a 'briportal' or 'britannic technologies ltd' but apparently they're based on diddled-debian...
trinque: speaking of speaking only mudlang (and a small amount of spanishmudlang), if anyone else is slogging through latin, the app memrise has decent flash cards under the "GCSE" set
trinque: a world with different places, how alien
a111: Logged on 2016-10-25 21:55 mircea_popescu: she's a poor chick in colombia, what do you want her to think ?
asciilifeform: trinque: i suspect that subj discusses a work of imagination, not of reality
trinque: please, I cannot feel at home unless I hear other losers fuck / take a shit / etc
trinque: who are these people who *want* to be warehoused in plastic bins packed like a damned beehive
asciilifeform: 'We believe in order to create a more sustainable society we need to go from the consumer society to a society formed around "do it yourself" (DIY) and "do it together" (DIT) mentality. Therefor we plan to make living communities which are self sustainable with energy, water and food, but also are in connection with the communities create maker spaces and tool libraries, such that people in the surrounding society have access to the
mircea_popescu: reviewing yest log for articlization i realise we'll probably not see pete_dushenski anymore ; he may or may not return in two week's time as a dessicated airfoil to say his goodbyes to his former club, pre burial in an cremation urn.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 01:43 pete_dushenski: ofc not, so 'drug dealer' is obv a snide remark, not actually positied theory
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-09#1580127 << thinking about it you're entirely right, what's said there isn't "you are a drug dealer" but specifically "you aren't a drug dealer" in the sense of "i don't think you're that cool so nyah!" ☝︎
Framedragger: asciilifeform: like, everything on a single page (or some iframe or js thing)?
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 16:00 Framedragger: IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE BUILDING A REPUBLIC
mircea_popescu: if you don't have a topic window up top, try /topic
Framedragger: well, its status is prolly still unclear. but basically current govt doesn't really take to end to end encryption, in a more serious manner than previous govts; or at least this one managed to push things forward a bit
goldfinger: i started writing a bitcoin client in C#
mircea_popescu: the most serene republic is a terrorist organisation dedicated to the violent destruction of all fiat constructions, from states on.
Framedragger: it's a small terrorist republic, but i'll leave it to mr. MP
goldfinger: a rewrite of bitcoin core?
goldfinger: Well, I was making a bitcoin client
a111: Logged on 2016-12-08 15:19 mircea_popescu: cat iplist.txt | while read ip; do curl -A "blabla" "http://$ip/" > results.txt; done
mircea_popescu: this very much because contrary to pretense commonly shared and widely held, modernism was never more than a superficial paint coat over things.
mircea_popescu: so no, the peasant didn't blame the boyar because the boyar did something. the peasant doesn't care about that (nor was the doing actually verifiable as such, nor did it likely happen rather than the opposite). the peasant blame the boyar because the boyar was the wrong thing, a do-er rather than an is-er.
mircea_popescu: ickiness in economics not just price stickiness, and esp in chaotic situations it's actually a stronger effect.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-08#1579712 << there is yet no futures market principally because agreement among the major players keeps the prices stable. the reasonings through which that agreement is distilled however are getting ever more complex ; this yet holds because everyone involved has a brain the size of staten island and can mostly follow the intricacies + a patience the size of a larger planet's ice caps, so they ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "For example, when I first came to Japan, I had no computer. I also had no money, because the plane ticket and setting up my household ate all of my savings. In America, this isn’t a barrier to getting a computer, because Dell will do a quick FICO score on you and then happily extend you $2,000 of trade credit."
asciilifeform: the unspoken but correct answer is 'if i go and pretend to be a real liberal-profession, lawyer, airline pilot, i will go to jail'
asciilifeform: it always boggled my imagination, how these folx pick a thing to 'be'
mircea_popescu: i actually told a 29 yo "i know a guy who's 92 and a lot more flexible than you".
asciilifeform: olympiads are a desperation measure, when i sat on other end of the table i resorted to them also
asciilifeform: there was even one 'tbtf' corp where they wheeled in a pc-cum-tv thing and ida...
asciilifeform: 'here's a pg of obdjump -D .., say what is the routine'