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trinque: Dog3: I didn't vote for you

Dog3: I am Doge

trinque: I am not.

asciilifeform: '“I don’t want to energize the group. I’m not looking to energize them. I don’t want to energize the group, and I disavow the group,” Trump said ...'

mircea_popescu: ~nothing tbh. did i miss out much ?

mircea_popescu: fucktards are utterly unreadable by now, i'd rather peruse byzantine court poetry cca comnena.

mircea_popescu: "SULZBERGER: I thought maybe I’d start this off by asking if you have anything you would like to start this off with before we move to" aaaaand i lost interest.

mircea_popescu: not what i read there.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> i had nfi that it is possible to 'sound fat' << very possible. low testosterone nasal male voice almost guaranteed to come from fatty.

shinohai: This from a guy who said "I'm totally not interested in serving in Trumpreich" just days ago.

trinque: I guess it has "urban" in it

shinohai: I find it hilarious Trump chose Ben Carson as HUD Secretary

asciilifeform: i had nfi that it is possible to 'sound fat'

mats: asciilifeform: i like the sound of that

mats: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e74_1448740839

Framedragger: i'm not sure if žižek "seriously references Stalin", i mean he has the guy's portrait in his apartment iirc (...), and it's a bit of a joke. (yes am aware stalin gets quoted, including in his books which i've glanced at.) either way, yeah, it's a dorky mish-mash of things...

mircea_popescu: i trust it works better than google.

Framedragger: (i mean, the gist is prolly about right, i'd agree..)

Framedragger: no, but the title intrigued me tho (apparently it reads as it sounds), so i've put it through google translate so your beautiful language can be raped and i can nevertheless get the gist..

mircea_popescu: wow i totally trashed this.

Framedragger: oh no i meant "pervert's guide to cinema", the other one (ideology) is more preachy (as the title allows for)

Framedragger: oya - i admit to watching it multiple times (had the pleasure of actually reading said object of satire)

a111: Logged on 2016-11-23 01:57 phf: Framedragger: yeah, bug in the router, can access as http://btcbase.org/patches (which i know is confusing since it's also /log/), but obviously needs to be fixed

asciilifeform: in fact, i found the link in a spam from 'bullionvault', to which i was once a subscriber

asciilifeform: 'i'd like 10,000 shares of Night Train plox'

Framedragger: (but this can be resolved one way or another i'm sure.)

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-23#1572699 << tbh doesn't sound right to me, the :// specifies a transport level protocol - so that i could do http:// or ftp:// or gopher:// ☝︎

Framedragger: asciilifeform: i guess i should. yeah fair enough. btw iirc there's still no markable security difference between urandom and random?

asciilifeform: btw when 'p' is out i will show folks who want to keep their old moduli, how

Framedragger: jesus you guys, you realise all those deedbot messages are still internally encrypted with symmetric aes ('session key') right? and you think the lowest-hanging fruit is fingerprint? ok i guess

trinque: and sure, could easily do this. I was already going to move the pubkey into my db for the www-wot pages

trinque: mircea_popescu: if this is something I can jam into gpg at each call

mircea_popescu: he does have a point, and i think also the code to allow you to extract it from a pubkey if need be

mircea_popescu: !!rate asciilifeform 1 i tell you it's by fp

asciilifeform: i say to replace it meaningfully, you gotta let go of the fundamental braindamage at the root of it.

asciilifeform: i will carefully work out example:

mircea_popescu: no i wasn't about to send pubkeys to freeonlinehashes.foryou

mircea_popescu: i'm not making the argument you should. i'm just pointing out that it is the only way to be 100%.

mircea_popescu: i dun think anyone seriously proposes it can work.

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i'm saying that there's a possible runaway effect where a party could claim to own many a fingerprint, because "their key fingerprinting function is like that", to the point where semantically useful names could be owned by them. but that's just ridiculous..

mircea_popescu: Framedragger i don't follow ?

Framedragger: i guess i could invent a hash function which always outputs some short meaningful names like "CocksCocksBallsCocks" and then claim i have a right to them because that's my fingerprint, but it all boils down to WoT and "don't be ridiculous".

mircea_popescu: yes, i see no problem with that.

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i suppose the system could just allow one to own multiple fingerprints, according to different schemes, with some constraints on length ('minimum length' at least)?

mircea_popescu: technically i suppose the correct way for this to work would be for me to own 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452 which i do own because hey.

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i'm still not sure about the delegation thing. if A owns goodreads, B should in principle be able to register fuck.goodreads , right? but then allowing for a possibility of delegation would be nice. or, it'd just be a matter of convention *within deedbot's context*.

Framedragger: yeah, i mean, sounds good.

mircea_popescu: i don't think it does. i just say it should.

a111: Logged on 2015-09-14 02:02 trinque: I'd rather have the index of the right man's bookshelf than access to every landfill on earth for free

Framedragger: the N-to-1 relation (many possible ratings for one name) needs to be stored somehow, i suppose it may be multiple gns fields, but then it is the case that not *all* fields of a specific name are controlled by the name's owner; or, there's a separate service / storage thing.

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: like, the name is signed, or specific piece of content is signed? i assume the former?

mircea_popescu: in principle it would be very gns-based. if i sign btcbase/logs mkj.lt/log trilema.com etc, you can do "signed:mp" in your search box and get results from THESE

Framedragger: i suppose the system could then also integrate with gns, in the sense that gns-listed content could in principle be searched, too..

asciilifeform: lel i was about to ask, what's a pss and where is ord

trinque: lest anyone thing I'm tipping my hand, I don't think the thing can work at all unless the mechanism by which it works can be made public.

phf: i think it's http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-02#1444829 ☝︎

phf: asciilifeform: that's the first task after i vpatch the code. i basically started doing that on live server, got as far as loading the logs into memory, and realize that i can't change what's there without testing it, which means i need to backport everything into my dev environment. blah blah blah

trinque: that's what I did with deedbot; forgot about it and the gods favored me.

phf: it got stable as soon as i stopped worrying about it

asciilifeform: i have nfi what specifically phf did to his logtron, but it mostly worx now!!

phf: all the sbcl friendly patching that i did in september was done on the server, live, under fire, so right now i'm just slowly retroactively vpatching the code, at which point i can move onto the outstanding issues

phf: Framedragger: yeah, bug in the router, can access as http://btcbase.org/patches (which i know is confusing since it's also /log/), but obviously needs to be fixed ☟︎

shinohai: If you aren't queer or whatever I guess you can't write and get paid for them.

shinohai: person of color I suppose?

Framedragger: (which reminds me that i hinted of consolidating what i myself find into a wiki, which would be useful for folks, and never did that...)

Framedragger: i'm mostly just lost between all the different pieces of the republican infrastructure :)

mod6: anyway, trb takes my top efforts, but i'll fit this new t stuff in when I can for sure.

mod6: i'm actually making a database currently for a possible private version in the future.

Framedragger: yeah i should PRIVMSG it anyway, i guess.

Framedragger: also i don't remember where on the web i can view this, if anywhere

Framedragger: mod6: tbh am just fiddling around. i wanted a list of all tickets, and to be able to view every ticket separately, if that's even applicable

Framedragger: (there's probably been some further design work? and then asciilifeform probably has something written down, i imagine)

Framedragger: phf: http://btcbase.org/patches/ says 301 -> http://btcbase.org/patches/NIL , the latter as appropriate to nil i guess 404's

Framedragger: "i see" http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/234/739/fa5.jpg

asciilifeform: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2376DC4A598D0B7FBCC1A66D71E36ADB37969120DC2D5B7C24BAEC8DD9FF5FD9 << i'ma have to make the factors clickable eventually. because this is mega-uninformative.

RodrigoBTCF: I will authenticate in a second

trinque: I read it, dunno why I did

asciilifeform: jurov: i get a black screen

asciilifeform: i will be surprised if before the end of '17 'google chrome' and similar do not yet warn 'THIS NEWS SITE MAY BE FAEK', sorta how it now is beginning to do for ssl abstainers

trinque: I guess the gay nazis will have plenty of conference fodder

asciilifeform: 'Mr. Trump denied that his campaign had energized the so-called alt-right movement, saying he disavowed it. “It’s not a group I want to energize,” he said. “And if they are energized, I want to look into it and find out why.”'

trinque: http://archive.is/xSf35 << Pressed on whether he had definitively ruled out a prosecution of Mrs. Clinton, he said, “It’s just not something that I feel very strongly about.”

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: sure, logical explosion, though yeah that usually requires both attribute-holders to exist, if you're claiming one of them doesn't, then it's just a nonsensical statement. which i guess is your point... i suppose so.

mircea_popescu: and yes i'm aware that there exist geometric figures which do have radii. this isn't germane.

asciilifeform: Framedragger: in as far as i can tell, it is a very ordinary trap for the wotless/unwary/eager young'uns, 'alt-right'-style.

Framedragger: asciilifeform: what, evilzone? i see

Framedragger: i just don't like characterizations. (inb4 "but you don't defend when tmsr is characterised!1" << well, haven't seen much of the latter so far.)

Framedragger: trinque: well, there's that. not gonna argue with that. i suppose you're right.

trinque: or did I just rub the pgp sauce on my twitter because it evokes a special feeling in my empty loins

trinque: I roger verified my twitter and now twitter can't tweet as me?

Framedragger: ugh, no i need to be an advocate of keybase.

Framedragger: anyway. i'm not using keybase. i'm just sayin'.

Framedragger: asciilifeform: well, you can link your social accounts, and stuff. I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S NOT STUPID, but there's additional value

Framedragger: asciilifeform: i'm not disagreeing, and of course that's true. but it's still one thing to trust js which, say, generates privkey for you and then promises not to send it the server, "pinky promise" like, and another whereby you paste signatures from external program

Framedragger: i've stayed away from keybase as it had that creepy (and useless) hipsta vibe, but if true, then it's actively malicious.

Framedragger: asciilifeform: what do you mean, "slightly different js"? is there any point in time where you need to entrust your privkey to local js? i thought it was just a matter of giving it pubkeys and sigs?

Framedragger: (i don't think keybase gets to see your privkey tho.)

shinohai: I'm not entirely unsure this won't be the case in future, since last time I checked she had started using keybase.io

asciilifeform: i have nfi, could be that both were named for same tv character or the like.