asciilifeform: does weird things, doesn't see home dir on login via fish, and if manually put there, refuses to write

asciilifeform: still no fish though

asciilifeform: ty phf .

asciilifeform: oh neato

asciilifeform: wassat do

asciilifeform: i have busybox-based linux2.4 shitboxes with 8M of disk that behave better than this.

asciilifeform: if somebody knows how to make it behave like white man os -- plz to write in.

asciilifeform: midnight/'fish' dun work with the heathen shell either, i end up having to tar up whatevers and sftp'em in/out , takes 100x as long ☟︎

asciilifeform: if i had to pick b/w not having indoor shitter and not having tab completion, i'd pick the former. ☟︎

asciilifeform: i have nfi why anyone still tolerates this sort of thing.

asciilifeform: no shell with tabcompletion, even. pure agony to so much as work on the thing.

asciilifeform: all heathen liquishit.

asciilifeform: not make, not sed, nuffin.

asciilifeform discovers that NOTHING AT ALL works under netbsd for ~building~ ( i had 2yrs ago build a 'stator' FOR netbsd, UNDER linux, worked... )

asciilifeform: ( no trb yet, but enough to re-pour the cement... )

asciilifeform: habemus netbsd-zoolag.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-05#1694208 << in other noose, this worked. ☝︎

asciilifeform: lobbes: plz examine what you sent , because i dun see anything of the sort.

asciilifeform: 1s

asciilifeform bbl.

asciilifeform: later on i'ma pull the drive & try guessing the magic params and writing'em in on other box. ☟︎

asciilifeform: literally doesn't need usb for ANYTHING but the config

asciilifeform: in other lulz, i DID get netbsd going on http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-04#1694103 box. but sad part is, it is useless, because 1) no usb 2) nic needs config 3) no way to connect kbd... ☝︎

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the cellars of the shitreich, https://archive.is/mpbcX >> '...ederal prosecutors also attempted to block Hutchins' request for bail on grounds he had shot firearms at a shooting range last week while in Vegas for the Black Hat and Defcon security gatherings'

asciilifeform: shinohai: lulzy usgtorpropping of the monero nonsense

asciilifeform: !~later tell lobbes should show up some time today or mon. ☟︎

asciilifeform: whossat

asciilifeform: would rather moderate some other

asciilifeform: well i have. currently, by expecting 1 fewer trb testbed..

asciilifeform: 'i want a glass of beer' 'here is some sand, a plot of land..'

asciilifeform: anyway above contemplation is a year+ of sweat and all you get at the end is a very expensive arm.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ever reball a bga?

asciilifeform: which to date i have found impossible in human qties

asciilifeform: if you could source an arm

asciilifeform: but yes it is possible to design arm box with sockets

asciilifeform: ah i thought implication was 'mod the board'

asciilifeform: ever take close look at board with sdram ? needs equal paths ( the wiggling lines you see are called 'meanders' )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: only way the latter happens is new board from 0

asciilifeform: sorta what all of my findings from beginning to nao, sum to.

asciilifeform: not without rewrite.

asciilifeform: trb in 256M ain't happening.

asciilifeform: there is no fundamental reason for this.

asciilifeform: ( incl. pogo )

asciilifeform: extra infuriating detail -- i dun specifically need x86 for this , trb runs ok on arm. BUT all extant arms have soldered down (and insufficient) ram.

asciilifeform: ( recall, current amd is locked into pantsuitbios )

asciilifeform: and it's out of print even nao.

asciilifeform: the troubling bit is that even if trick works with kabini, that might be the last.

asciilifeform: brokenbydesign aha

asciilifeform: it was running a vintage centos prev.

asciilifeform: it dun need replacement per se, was dead disk. i took the downtime as chance to try netbsd on same iron, when new disk came. iirc i explained this upstack. ☟︎

asciilifeform: it was a fist-sized 'gigabyte' fanless celeron thing.

asciilifeform: possibly, i'ma try it on this here one i've nailed to a plank

asciilifeform: ( apparently i have one here ..! )

asciilifeform: afaik they're all kabini or the next, ditto

asciilifeform: usb3 on fucking cpu die

asciilifeform: that's a 'kabini'

asciilifeform puts on iron list

asciilifeform: also problem is the soldered down ram.

asciilifeform: ( they clock it down to sata2 )

asciilifeform: not afaik

asciilifeform: ( was my meaning in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-04#1694040 ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: not so 'bad' as 'murdered'

asciilifeform: *the

asciilifeform: realize, i dun have the iron i have because i found it on he sidewalk.

asciilifeform: i'll buy dozen...

asciilifeform: show where to get sata3 fanless box cum gbE with no usb3 ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: netbsd attempt hangs that box at usb chip init.

asciilifeform: btw in case this wasn't clear, this was zoolag , which did 2+ yrs of 24/7 trb.

asciilifeform: ( nic dun go -- then wat. )

asciilifeform: possibly one could try building a netbsd that doesn't try to touch the usb chip at all. then enjoy setting up sans keyboard. ☟︎

asciilifeform: more recent boxes have no usb2 at all...

asciilifeform: and this is true of pretty much any box that makes decent trb node (i.e. has sata3 + ssd ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-04#1694057 << it's an all-in-one ☝︎

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in music from less rotten worlds, http://joshuawise.com/vax/vaxstationii.mp3 .

asciilifeform: mod6: i elementarily don't have the time.

asciilifeform: motherfucker. i dun even USE usb3 for anything.

asciilifeform: but dun have time to spend 2 wks making a gentoo box... ☟︎

asciilifeform: i want centos out of my house.

asciilifeform: old disk in zoolag was with centos.

asciilifeform: i'll point out that this was the fiddybux 'celeron' box that beat the living shit out of $maxint dulap : strictly on account of having ssd

asciilifeform: looks like we're down to exactly 1 ~working os, folx...

asciilifeform: usb3, that is.

asciilifeform: because the shitware iron does not in fact follow anything resembling a spec. it follows a liquishit that would take up five walls of book if ever put to paper -- which it won't be -- and co-developed with winblowz shitware driver, which ~runs, and rathead shitware 'open' sores driver, which runs, and naught ever else.

asciilifeform: infuriating idiocy. apparently it won't run on any. x86. box. with. usb3. at. all.

asciilifeform: i dun even pin this on the netbsd people, they are the dangling corpse in the relationship with wintel ☟︎

asciilifeform: ( and in fact it ran on my pogo. but that doesn't produce a usable trb node. )

asciilifeform: but HEY AT LEAST IT RUNS ON DREAMCAST AND TOASTERS

asciilifeform: https://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2013/11/11/msg023663.html << 2013! and before anyone asks, the proposed fix dun work.

asciilifeform: ( because bios from malicious tards. how about linuxbios ? no can do, because intel. ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: cure on the netbsd forums is 'turn off usb3'. twist : CANNOT be disabled on the box in question

asciilifeform: fuck x86 with red hot poker.

asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform took the chance made by the death of ssd in 'zoolag' to attempt netbsd. result : no boot. ( with or without 'no acpi' ) option, hangs at usb init. ☟︎

asciilifeform: ( 'why should we ship dev tool! we're a binary turd, microshit by other name' )

asciilifeform: mod6: typically rathead variants

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wassat

asciilifeform: https://archive.is/xb1If << in other olds. dataflow crackpotteries.

asciilifeform: ( pogolike, though no sata or wired nic, <20bux in 'infinite' qty )

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in arm7 planet, https://getchip.com/pages/chippro

asciilifeform: ( pretty close to what my lcd wall eats actually )

asciilifeform: console another 150.