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asciilifeform: better question, what -doesn't- lose them
assbot: Today's /hashtag/FinCEN?src=hash /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash rulings Deturdified, because Fuck PDFs http://t.co/sIOYOjmmbz
asciilifeform: he can swear to his gods that he didn't make copies, but what kind of proof could possibly suffice as proof to a skeptic ?
asciilifeform: cazalla: same reason mircea_popescu won't post his neutered bitcoind source tree.
pete_dushenski: didn't see one for this: http://trilema.com/2014/usgavin-the-lolcow/#comment-109294
los_pantalones: i try to push everyone into here, most haven't taken me up on it
los_pantalones: we don't touch bitstamp
punkman: I wouldn't expect vultr to be better but who knows
mats_cd03: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/26/green-berets-tell-of-afghan-national-army-soldiers << green berets telling everybody who didn't already know the ANA is useless
los_pantalones: mircea_popescu i can't believe how much $ the ledgerX guys raised ☟︎
ben_vulpes: wasn't PeterL going to set up a new blogs.ba
mircea_popescu: i don't recall, was that supposed to work or not work ?
diametric: couldn't find anything easily in the log, whats up with bitbet? ddos?
mircea_popescu: i imagine the idea is that perhaps bitcoin futures may be made to work like gold futures. which won't work, but hey, if google got too much dough we can always take some.
TomServo: mircea_popescu: I suppose that would work if there weren't a handful of other sites "selling" it also.
cazalla: that torrentlocker italian malware i posted about yesterday seems to be hitting some local australian council now heh, i won't write this up as same story diff location but if anyone was interested http://www.sunraysiadaily.com.au/story/2654270/cyber-attack-mildura-businesses-held-to-ransom-by-computer-malware-hackers/
mircea_popescu: however, he doesn't hold a large balance, maybe that's the first thing bitcoin foundation can spend on
ben_vulpes: and i didn't see any good suggestions re "what is the output of a 'merge'?"
asciilifeform: this is where 'we only hire aryans but won't say so' comes in very handy.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: I wonder if this huge push on sidechains is because the power rangers realize the blocksize ain't increasing anytime soon... << http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, we can't. to remove them they'd have to at first somehow been included.
jurov: and you can't make it by adding new deed in the middle even now
punkman: why, I can't put my deedN+1 before terminator?
punkman: why can't it be extended?
mike_c: yeah, a terminating sequence of bytes. then it can't be validly extended.
PeterL: I don't see any benefit the attacker would have over just submitting a deed to deedbot?
mircea_popescu: or maybe i don't actually understand this attack
punkman: (note it doesn't have checksum/version bytes like usual base58check used in addresses)
punkman: I don't think it is, here's the implementation bot uses though: https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/blob/master/lib/bitcoin.py#L258
thestringpuller: I wonder if this huge push on sidechains is because the power rangers realize the blocksize ain't increasing anytime soon...
punkman: "David Byron kicked off all this madness about undetectable guns when he was issued a patent in 1987. Congress even tried to ban this as-of-yet unbuilt gun. That didn't stop Byron from hooking up with investors and starting a company focused on making this "plastic gun" a reality."
punkman: I don't mind the infinite bullets, more that they can't hit anything that's not a mook
Mikayla: best I don't get into trouble :P
thestringpuller: Random: The walking dead gave me nightmares, and I didn't even watch it.
Naphex: why wouldn't you belive me lol?
Mikayla: I don't really believe you
thestringpuller: I havne't read it yet.
bounce: <mircea_popescu> " regulatory oversight maybe at the national and international level, just to make sure that we don?t do something very foolish" << in a sense this is an open invitation for some agency or institute or whatnot to step up. "bring it before us and we'll pass judgement", with suitable PR to suitably spin it up and answer the inevitable "you and what army?" questions.
undata: but I don't think that
undata: I can't see the next 20 years going well for most people here.
BingoBoingo: The canary isn't a guarantee they haven't been approached, but it's being triggered should seem to be a guarentee they have.
BingoBoingo: Why, because they aren't Apple who has the press gloss over "The canary died because it became unecessary, not because a warrant came to kill it"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I would figure that to keep the server from displaying the comic sans image someone has to keep hitting the "We haven't been served yet" button.
assbot: and the libressl warrant canary is... you guessed it, comic sans. https://t.co/bx6nNNg6Tn http://t.co/uWLw8ao6nf
decimation: well, no the blob isn't
decimation: yeah doesn't deedbot write to the blockchain?
undata: but a small amount wouldn't hurt that bad
TheNewDeal: why wouldn't you just send this over to the testnet?
TheNewDeal: isn't getting info by txid a nono?
assbot: News Alert – Old Man Doesn't Understand Bitcoin | Qntra.net
undata: "is scam because isn't money" and "blockchain technology!"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which is why theft is not an acceptable source of evidence << it won't be a legal, but a vivisectionary proceeding. like us loling at the snowden crap.
mircea_popescu: undata: pretty ungrateful to call the guy retarded. << it's an act of love, you just don't know how the world works.
assbot: lcamtuf's blog: PSA: don't run 'strings' on untrusted files (CVE-2014-8485)
asciilifeform: the sad thing is, i'm still fairly certain that yudkowsky didn't want to be a stooge.
ben_vulpes: i've been staring at it and it's not unintelligble -- horrible, but not unintelligible -- but given things like obfuscated c competition i don't think i'm actually a good technical choice for the role
mircea_popescu: in short : it makes the cost of nsa covert ops in foss go from O(log(t)) all the way up to P,N
punkman: also interesting is the address for 0x00, you can sent money to it but you can't spend it https://blockchain.info/address/1FYMZEHnszCHKTBdFZ2DLrUuk3dGwYKQxh
jurov: can't they jsut sign independently?
punkman: btw some bundles can't be turned into bitcoin keys, found out by accident
mircea_popescu: i guess it can't be because -1
mircea_popescu: which isn't that hard to test
asciilifeform: it doesn't need to be.
mircea_popescu: jurov oh yeah, i wasn't commenting on your implementation, i was just bitching at the stars.
mircea_popescu: i wasn't talking about the cardano! i was talking about the new pgp
asciilifeform: cardano-1 doesn't encipher...
mircea_popescu: so no, it won't imperil them, it will just make the peril obvious
asciilifeform: don't misunderstand, i like the 'fixed fields' idea, but am also aware that shitgnome excretions in a hundred places in commonplace toolchains will silently screw with it.
mircea_popescu: because i can't read that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but you don't use cf, lf etc.
asciilifeform: this wouldn't be a problem except if you have fixed fields
bounce: sha1 is on the way out (don't use for new stuff) but not dead yet (can keep using what you have)
Apocalyptic: by the way are SHA1 gpg-signed messages considered read ? I read somewhere one might rather use sha256 or higher, don't know if there's any merit to that claim
mircea_popescu: you don't want me to drop it, do not put it in there.
asciilifeform: don't drop the stack.
mircea_popescu: *: asciilifeform can't really picture woman playing this game << dude you were in a different ukraine or what ? i have yet to meet a uk chick that doesn't drink.
asciilifeform: (ru film about derpy f-student kid who goes to the past to zap historical notables so he won't have to study them)
asciilifeform: obligatory time machine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR56uNg2XQs&feature=youtu.be&t=2m43s
asciilifeform: http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4470298 << untested
decimation: wait you wouldn't murder hitler pre-cog style?
mircea_popescu does not deliberately check out males he doesn't know. busting into the life of a woman is one thing, but a dude...
asciilifeform can't help but remember ancient, trashy soviet film about an inventor kid, who builds a magic time-machine thingie from a phone booth, and retrieves, inevitably - grandpa lenin - who smiles and approves of his life
mircea_popescu: undata: and they will spend it how? << don't be silly. every place with intenret has a bitcoin trader by now.
jurov: and i don't see a value iin redoing the browsable archives that mailman generates
mircea_popescu: a dozen or so hashes to choose from don't really give any advantage
punkman: it hashes bundles in two stages, so you don't have to keep the full bundle around
mircea_popescu: splendid. anything it doesn't do of the spec ?
mircea_popescu remebers bacl when regular mouse wasn't usable for optostuff
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: as it is, i venture to guess that it's been done, so far, only by folks who live and die by the result, and aren't terribly eager to share live 'weaponized' code (people such as mircea)
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you weren't kidding about "glue and glass"
asciilifeform: if theyre krugmanites, they have no wealth to speak of << don't conflate the priests and their flock
jurov: something like that may pass after well done scare of "child raping AI" but I don't see how it can be enforced in practice
jurov: what i wanted to say, mining race isn't the most dangerous avenue of attack
asciilifeform: but they won't.
jurov: i can't parse that
asciilifeform: so far, there's been no reason for non-retarded people to care, because - we don't even have computers yet.
asciilifeform: re: elon musk: two thing happening. a fella named yudkowsky has been pushing for 'regulate ai, or it will destroy us all!' line for a little short of a decade now. with him, of course, to be the fuhrer. (see lenat discussion. he considers anyone trying to resurrect lenat's work, assuming it wasn't fraudulent - we don't actually know this - to be a dangerous criminal worthy of extermination.)
bounce: sheesh, that market report really provides zilch technology background. "biometrics for security" taken as valid on face value. of course, it's all about brand image, not technology. but if it's glaringly obvious that it doesn't work, it would be dishonest to tout it.
Vexual: I knew it was a little naughty, I wasn't expecting that
Vexual: one day i don't read the logs