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asciilifeform: i'll point out that konrad zuse built a very acceptable comp out of junk discarded by nazi germany, in mother's kitchen.

mircea_popescu: :p i mean.

asciilifeform: 'A chip can have 2 processors with 8-byte buses each, going to a DRAM giving you 16 bytes per cycle, through a shared 8-byte-per-cycle bottleneck. This interconnect is the handiwork of some time-starved dude on the chip maker's team, armed with an interconnect-generating tool. Even such an idiotic issue will manifest on some benchmarks but not others, and might not get caught at design time. And if you think that is stupid, I've hear

phf: i believe that was around the time i started reading asciilifeform

mircea_popescu: i think at some point you signed up for pain.

asciilifeform: btw the 'array of fpgas' thing is getting made, as soon as i'm satisfied that lattice 'ice' is ~actually~ reversed. and not simply 'kicad'-ed.

mircea_popescu: i think this is a pretty open question.

mircea_popescu: i dunno eagle worked for large enough boards.

asciilifeform: if i wanted this kind of 'program', i'd buy a cow

asciilifeform: so i have nfi, perhaps the published designs were made with megatonnes of compensatory undergrad sweat...

asciilifeform: phf: i put in the sweat, actually learned to use geda, it is imho an acceptable design, and i found plenty of complicated items purportedly having been designed with it, but it is BROKEN, the autorouter blew open polygons

phf: asciilifeform: i thought maybe the design was some historic artifact, but no, none of the cads i looked at (including fucking cmu's NS, which is probably first or second cad in existence) had that split. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: because that's a key ingredient of "i just want to" - deciding various arbitrary bits (especially ones the jwz doesn't well understand) are "small matter". which decision then drives poor resource allocation and is the deep reason for the festering morass of unsolved problems that should have been ; while tons of herbivores run around "revolutionizing" things that needn't on the shaky in reality but strong in perception found

asciilifeform: i shit thee not.

asciilifeform: kikad is developed by, i decided, malicious tards

phf: same, though i was told by experienced cad people "autorouting is trash" early on, but soon discovered that they mean "for the purposes of my giant multiboard layout" not "everything that you'll be touching for the next 10 years of your learning"

asciilifeform: phf: i tried 'kikad', geda, etc. NONE OF THESE AUTOROUT FOR MOTHERCFUCKSSSAKE

mircea_popescu: no, i know. say names.

mircea_popescu: i can't even recall who was in cadsoft prior to sale. ☟︎

asciilifeform: sorta like what i picture, e.g., eulora, looking like, if mircea_popescu sold it for money

asciilifeform: (in case anyone 'missed the memo' : open sores cad is a sad, sad joke. and no, i dun care if this does not sit well with somebody. it is -- a fact.)

a111: Logged on 2015-07-05 23:53 asciilifeform: or that other thread, which i can't seem to find, where we spoke of how 'maths wot is not essential for being published, but for even having publishable ideas instead of burning your life on fibonacci sequences or some other solved/irrelevant dead end'

asciilifeform: i collect stories like this, incidentally, because it is the #1 occupational hazard of inventing -- to 'fall in love with idea' and end up a sad basketcase, pons&fleischmanning your way into the bottle

asciilifeform: it is rather like to say 'i will light match and convert energy of petrol to heat 100%)

a111: Logged on 2016-12-04 23:38 mats: oops, this is actually the one i was looking at https://m.alibaba.com/product/60555752827/ESP8266-ESP8266EX-Wifi-Chip-with-SDIO.html?spm=a2706.7843299.1998817009.5.p7nmiv

mircea_popescu: no i mean, the "hiding" can't be done well.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have that one in the room where i am now, it actually has the working cpu

walter: thanks for explainig. So it's even worse than I thought.

asciilifeform: it is theoretically still in production, but every vendor i know of will attempt to bait-and-switch and spuriously substitute the 2015-and-post revision that will NOT.

asciilifeform: for all i know, d00d specifically wants the attempted infector in that rar!!111

mircea_popescu: yes i know scene friendly, but rar was a fucking stupid idea even in oslo 1990.

asciilifeform: but lol, why didja think i posted the ami.rar.

mircea_popescu: anyway, sorry about it, what can i say.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am pretty sure that the one actually had cache and the other had more than a dozen items last i looked. but that was a while ago.

asciilifeform: i.e. it did not cache files, just linked

phf: was also sort of a lul after adjustment and recovery from the eternal september, i.e. aol of '96 and yahoo of '99. i think we are now in the aftermath of the second wave of the eternal september

mircea_popescu: you're right huh. i guess my russian is a little... approximative.

asciilifeform: i see 0 schematics

mircea_popescu: kids today i swear.

mircea_popescu: i'll have you know, mr.!

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you're telling me ? i was in the phuctor team that found weak ssh keys back in my youth!

asciilifeform: coreboot, last i saw, largely consists of some sad folks sitting and being sad, because it works on 0 cpus presently sold, and on account of quite deliberate sabotage by intel and amd.

mircea_popescu: though with the whole "transsexual" derpage, i dunno how much anyone cares.

mircea_popescu: anyway ; what i linked above is a period scrape of the original website (the way this leak worked was the whole pile was found on a poorly secured taiwan server of jetway) ; the mmnt.net site generally has all sorts of useful things.

walter: I mean the leaked bios source

walter: where can I get it?

asciilifeform: i will also add that buildable source code for circa-2005 (and possibly slightly later) 'ami'-brand bios actually leaked.

asciilifeform to no one's great surprise, i imagine, has a somewhat dr.mengele kernel

asciilifeform: i can't believe you folx wasted whole hour on that

mircea_popescu: total fucking casual-boner-archy that thing, and utterly unwatchable. i used to mock romanians a decade ago as "o populatie cu mize mici" ie, a population with low stakes. but lawds have mercy, the hopes, aspirations, projects and projections of the contemporaneous ustard (stanford grad & waitress-journaho) barely cover a used bottlecap.

mircea_popescu: in which vein, /me watched a half hour of something last night, because i tried to do a christina applegate retrospective. holy shit that girl has been in all the shitty snl derivative crap. how do these idiots even live, how do they get out of bed ? that ben affleck imbecile, he's like baudoinia, blackening the walls of anywhere alcohol is customarily found. unfunny as cancer, stupid as broken shoelaces, ubiquitous as a sac

mircea_popescu: i guess it must not have nick enforcing turned on

walter: no, 'walter' is registered. I need to come up with a sane available nick

walter: mindread :). Thanks for the links, I'll dig the logs for the topics

mircea_popescu: i just don't grasp the logic is all.

walter__: I don't. Too late to freenode short names party

walter__: considering the horrible situation with x86 laptops I wonder if Asus C201 (again from the Libreboot compatibility list) is "the cure"

mircea_popescu: walter__ the 2005 was just a reference to something i mentioned, iirc in a discussion with asciilifeform ; it's not an exact date (fwiw i use ts etc). but the idea is - a laptop which runs with no binaries whatsoever.

walter__: reading logs I found some mentions of exactly "2005" thinkpads but cannot see why

mircea_popescu: i've watched about a half hour of tv total since seinfeld.

mircea_popescu: alternatively, "i think this is the beginning of a biutiful fashism" as per https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po1GUcxSqyo

mats: oops, this is actually the one i was looking at https://m.alibaba.com/product/60555752827/ESP8266-ESP8266EX-Wifi-Chip-with-SDIO.html?spm=a2706.7843299.1998817009.5.p7nmiv ☟︎

mats: i believe the 'ex' suffix is the chip, is that right?

mircea_popescu: i think you can only shut up mao

mats: i'll shut up nao

mircea_popescu: incidentally i'd say the arrangement as present is also the right thing. bot should send raw bytes ; wwwtron should send escape codes.

mircea_popescu: i am persuaded phf is right : bot is sending raw bytes, log is displaying unicode points as escape codes.

mircea_popescu: other than "unicode is fucking evil" i have no moral from this wasted hour.

jurov: does a111 keep as-came-from-wire copy of logs? i'd recommend to.

jurov: i think ben_vulpes' client magled it, i see all the aubergines fine, except his

mircea_popescu: the other one only appears pasted by me. so apparently i have an issue whereby unicode transforms into bs.

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes</a>: heh, today i learned the unitards are so fully vested in the anti-sex brigade that U+1F346 or ðif my client doesn't mangle it

a111: Logged on 2016-12-04 17:25 mircea_popescu: except it isnt : the website shows ðŸ�†if whereas a111 says ðŸ†. these two will appear the same in the btcbase log, but i trust you see them different in terminal ?

mircea_popescu: mircea_popescu</a>: except it isnt : the website shows ðŸ�†if whereas a111 says ð. these two will appear the same in the btcbase log, but i trust you see them different in terminal ?

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: heh, today i learned the unitards are so fully vested in the anti-sex brigade that U+1F346 or ðif my client doesn't mangle it << pasted from page source of the log

phf: well, that's what i'm saying is that i can't find the second ("expected to say") sequence anywhere on btcbase

a111: Logged on 2016-12-04 05:07 ben_vulpes: heh, today i learned the unitards are so fully vested in the anti-sex brigade that U+1F346 or ðŸ†if my client doesn't mangle it, goes by the name of /aubergine/

phf: i can't actually find anywhere where website is ~producing~ that second sequence (besides your own lines)

mircea_popescu: not the right bytes, not even the right byte count, and now i suspect this is enough for priviledge escalation in a111 or any other item which uses the same unicode libs.

mircea_popescu: except it isnt : the website shows ðŸ�†if whereas a111 says ðŸ†. these two will appear the same in the btcbase log, but i trust you see them different in terminal ? ☟︎

mircea_popescu: i mean /aubergine/* ; U+1F346

mircea_popescu: so now, you're telling me the XY vs XZ line happens because... i pass latin-1 ? then why is Z there.

mircea_popescu: in the case you tested, yes. in the case i tested, the log seems to, judging by the www part, but the bot quoting in chan doesn't, judging by the transform. like :

mircea_popescu: phf there seem to be 3 layers of manglizing. yours above i saw both as a square with numbers, so i suspect your irc client fucks it up ; mine above is fucked up differently (looks like byte-interpreted rather than unicode) and then the scarfer/www displayer prints them out correctly but a111 reads them eggog'd.

phf: i'll go with "if my client doesn't mangle it" part

pete_dushenski: pretty sure i pumped out 2014 y-i-r in late november so dec 3 ain't so bad.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-04#1577542 << wow check out the quick turnaround. year's not even done yo! i was making noises in advance, ben_vulpes style. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i think a111 mangles the log read though.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-04#1577480 << i leled some more this morn. ☝︎

thestringpuller: !~later tell pete_dushenski shit. first you get circle of life stuck in my head, now i'll be watching the why of fry...

ben_vulpes: i figured you might catch that and find it amusing, pete_dushenski

pete_dushenski: and i gotta agree that v8 is defo the king. the queen and prince would be i6 and v12, just not sure the orde tbh. but these are the most readily encountered configurations that are inherently balanced, which results in smoother firing sequences and less vibration. i4 and v6, which are found in >90% of new cars sold. v8 is only ~5% of new cars (trucks obv. have much higher uptake of larger engines).

pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: caught the 'commie is someone who doesn't drive a v8' reference! 'grand tour' was finally released in canada and i caught up this weekend. skipped most of ep2 but had a fair few chuckles throughout 1&2.

pete_dushenski: like all 'empowering' devices. they do ~jack shit but they FEEL phenomenal for the user. at least that's my impression. god help me if i ever find myself using a blower first-hand.

pete_dushenski: i'd argue that blowers are slave 'empowerment' tools and little else besides.

pete_dushenski: LOOK HOW BUSEE AND IMPOTENT I AMM

pete_dushenski: i've even been using a broom on the light dustings of snow we've been graced with this fall. big fan for the drier, powdier varietals of the flakey stuff.

mircea_popescu: i dunno if you've seen how the "aware", couch-surfing, backpacking, burning-manning redditard lives, but it is most reminescent of the warsaw ghetto cca 1916.