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mircea_popescu: Framedragger i guess that;s unavoidalbe huh.

mod6: <+goldfinger> and i noticed i connected with some nodes that reported (protocol)verison 99999 << someone saw us on the tubes. hai!

mircea_popescu: reviewing yest log for articlization i realise we'll probably not see pete_dushenski anymore ; he may or may not return in two week's time as a dessicated airfoil to say his goodbyes to his former club, pre burial in an cremation urn.

mircea_popescu: i somehow never listened to these.

mircea_popescu: i see the yankovich tradition is well and good.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-09#1580127 << thinking about it you're entirely right, what's said there isn't "you are a drug dealer" but specifically "you aren't a drug dealer" in the sense of "i don't think you're that cool so nyah!" ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 12:28 Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-08#1579752 << seeing as nobody was doing that, here's the result of basically that: http://siphnos.mkj.lt/phuctored-ssh-boxes/ - i may or may not do the other things (banners for http/ssh/telnet/ftp/etc), everyone feel free to do the latter, you can

mircea_popescu: i'm sorry - i must've meant also the enslavement of the general population, murder, rape, arson and misrepresentation.

davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-09#1580321 <<< wait, wasn't jaywalking declared unrepublican? or did i miss something ☝︎

jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] Isaiah 45:7 :: I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

goldfinger: where can i read up the topic

shinohai: I am the most preeminent jaywalker in the Republic

goldfinger: i started writing a bitcoin client in C#

Framedragger: it's a small terrorist republic, but i'll leave it to mr. MP

goldfinger: yeah, so i thought, who the hell are these people that start counting their version number downwards

goldfinger: and i noticed i connected with some nodes that reported (protocol)verison 99999

goldfinger: Well, I was making a bitcoin client

shinohai: "But officer, I use `GPG` and pgp!"

goldfinger: How come I am voiced for only 30 minutes?

Framedragger: i'm out ~june-july :)

Framedragger: +/- that, plus hacking into shit will become commonplace police practice (eh who am i kidding and being naive about, they're simply 'streamlining' all that in the judicial sense..)

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-09#1580257 << ty, fixed (also reported by punkman, but i was afk at that point) ☝︎

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-08#1579752 << seeing as nobody was doing that, here's the result of basically that: http://siphnos.mkj.lt/phuctored-ssh-boxes/ - i may or may not do the other things (banners for http/ssh/telnet/ftp/etc), everyone feel free to do the latter, you can ☝︎☟︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: do follow. neither of these are likely to hold long term and moreover complexity ever increases, so i expect they'll emerge next year or so.

ben_vulpes: 403 i mean

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i was living under the impression that i am reading the faits d'armes of adule male. for some reason.

mircea_popescu: the approximate equivalent of "umm... hi fortified city, here is my siege. i... uhhh... i ate all the horses on the way over. and burned the trebuchets. surrender now ?"

asciilifeform: move with 0 money and 0 prospects, living by wits ? i thought mircea_popescu was proponent of this for young folx

asciilifeform: https://web.archive.org/web/20140302045958/http://my.opera.com/Vorlath/blog/2012/04/20/math-why-there-is-disagreement-on-cantors-diagonal-argument << strictly for pro entomologists. cantorist crackpot! and here i thought that the last one died in '99 or so, usenetron in hand...

mircea_popescu: "For example, when I first came to Japan, I had no computer. I also had no money, because the plane ticket and setting up my household ate all of my savings. In America, this isn’t a barrier to getting a computer, because Dell will do a quick FICO score on you and then happily extend you $2,000 of trade credit."

asciilifeform: the unspoken but correct answer is 'if i go and pretend to be a real liberal-profession, lawyer, airline pilot, i will go to jail'

mircea_popescu: from what i heard from all other shops, they do. it's like asking why has superluminous tachyon decided to bless your apparatus.

mircea_popescu: the 92 yo i had in mind specifically was http://trilema.com/2010/la-munca-cu-negrii/#selection-37.0-37.88

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform (i suspect we may be talking at cross purposes)

mircea_popescu: well no, i've never had the pleasure of hiring for the army.

mircea_popescu: i actually told a 29 yo "i know a guy who's 92 and a lot more flexible than you".

mircea_popescu: old folks as in bio age i usually have an easy enough time with ; young folks who aspire to be employed however are aged beyond their age, like touched by the fucking vorlons.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think you are describing 'old folx', not necessarily diplomaed

asciilifeform: olympiads are a desperation measure, when i sat on other end of the table i resorted to them also

mircea_popescu: i don't even see how the fuck this is programming.

asciilifeform: i saw an arse cheek iirc

a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 01:47 phf: pete_dushenski: sure, but my comment stands. when you read travel diaries in general they all have the same format, it's just this particular one reads like "in my country of Kazakhstan we shoot dog, i couldn't find any places to shoot dogs in so called civilized england"

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-09#1580131 << 'where, sir, i SHOULD PUT THIS!!???' (tm) (r) ☝︎

mircea_popescu: but what i specifically take issue with is the claim that "There is no clear way in any languages". what the heck ? ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 02:30 mircea_popescu: i don't get this fizzbuzz thing. someone explain it to me ? for i from 1 to 100 do if i is divisible by 3 j+="Fizz" ; if i is divisible by 5 j+="Buzz" if j is null j = i print j.

asciilifeform: nfi what else, there is probably a vendor backdoor, i cannot be arsed

mircea_popescu: am i nuts or something ? wtf "I think Fizz-Buzz is "hard" for some programmers because (#1) it doesn't fit into any of the patterns that were given to them in school assignments, and (#2) it isn't possible to directly and simply represent the necessary tests, without duplication, in just about any commonly-used modern programming language." (as per http://wiki.c2.com/?FizzBuzzTest )

mircea_popescu: i don't get this fizzbuzz thing. someone explain it to me ? for i from 1 to 100 do if i is divisible by 3 j+="Fizz" ; if i is divisible by 5 j+="Buzz" if j is null j = i print j. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: this tiny may bug like creature is having the time of its life over on the db in jp monitor. i've never seen one so happy.

pete_dushenski: this is where i sheepishly admit that there could be one across the street but that i've not yet encountered anyone who's admitted to knowledge of its whereabouts. though given that 'edmonton ab' showed up on a few of the fetlife meatlist, you sorta have to figure there must be ~something~ of the sort in a town >1mn pop.

mircea_popescu: i'm sure they must have one.

mircea_popescu: i thought you lived in something that passes for urban center in the frozen wastes ?

mircea_popescu: here, too, on coupla of occasion took girl over sunday noon that i had met saturday night at bdsm club no less. resulting in some appropriately spooked parents.

pete_dushenski guesses that quantity of honey depends on the degree of f-i-l's personal means, how many girls he's burdened with, and how much of a stud the s-i-l is.

mircea_popescu: one time, the dad of this chick (/me is very old school, always insisted in meeting the parents of all molls) asked me if i have serious intentions. so i asked him if she's a virgin.

mircea_popescu: i guess.

phf: pete_dushenski: sure, but my comment stands. when you read travel diaries in general they all have the same format, it's just this particular one reads like "in my country of Kazakhstan we shoot dog, i couldn't find any places to shoot dogs in so called civilized england" ☟︎

mircea_popescu: ~if i am~ a drug dealer and i burn down your house, you'll what ? file a police report ? go on the local news network with a teary eyed "no one could have predicted that if i get pissy with people who break the law for a living i might end up with a burned down house" ? ☟︎☟︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski all the warning signs are there. to wit : "(The hypothesis was advanced, more than once, that as a foreigner who routinely travels abroad, speaks Spanish, and has money without any evidence of gainful employment, I was probably a drug dealer. I wish I were joking.)"

phf: that's what i'm saying though, these are like nifty anthropological studies by very inept anthropologists. you learn more about the author, than...

mircea_popescu: da fuck, empowering old women, wtf is this. whatever happened to bitch, if you talk out of line i'll burn you alive.

mircea_popescu: well i don't know any japanese dogs at all.

mircea_popescu: i know dogs that are more respectable.

mircea_popescu: "When I met her mother for the first time, I brought my resume and tax returns. Her mother was not 100% keen on the match when we started dating, as a combination of “foreigner” and “not gainfully employed” suggested that I was not exactly marriage material, but I eventually won her over."

ben_vulpes: i have no idea

mircea_popescu: in other news, i'm enjoying reading this kalzumeus piece on japanese culture. it's like japan consists of the 1950s mob.

mircea_popescu: they actually say this, "i'm a dog lover". then you meet the dog, and the general effect is "i love kids" guy with a fridge full of kid parts.

mircea_popescu: i'm buying, i'm buying.

mircea_popescu: i don't even doubt the label, i just find it amusing.

phf: well, i suspect he's got his facts right, but the commentary is dodgy

phf: asciilifeform: i didn't read that thread too close, but in japan they still seem to do "hire who not how" presumably successfully http://www.kalzumeus.com/2014/11/07/doing-business-in-japan/

mircea_popescu: i dunno, my selection-for-obedience process doesn't also select for comatose mental state simultaneously.

mircea_popescu: i guess the dude was just "getting his identity confirmed" or w/e KYC stuff.

asciilifeform: ah hm i think i get it

mircea_popescu: yes but i guess they can't be arsed to deal with stuck in traffic peon / having to physically go to the peon pen etc

mircea_popescu: dude i have nfi. because they're used to hiring camwhores ?

asciilifeform: so i how do i parse 'picked off the streets == "not has imperial diploma"'

mircea_popescu: i imagine he could, sure.

mircea_popescu: how would i elaborate, you'e the one who's stumped. you elaborate.

asciilifeform: now i'm stumped

mircea_popescu: what, i'ma only hire x school graduates like obama ? wtf am i , stupid.

BingoBoingo: Wait I have patients nao?

mircea_popescu: or if they don't because society broke down, i guess my guardpeople shoot her and throw the body to the dogs. either way.

mircea_popescu: so she burns down some apartment. the firepeople will put it out, the insurance people will pay for it and i guess the police people will take her to the doctorpeople or w/e.

mircea_popescu: why would there be a THE HOUSE ? i don't subscribne to "let's all go to the same shitty island and make a georepublic" ima have a the house ?

mircea_popescu: what exactly is the cost of failure ? is it some sort of "oh, i can't go talk to the girl in the bar" sort of crazy ?

mircea_popescu: i can't imagine that whoever wanted to get in couldn't at least try.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i am ill-equipped to describe it. but presumably there is a reason mircea_popescu has a harem, and not a human chick-sized 'cat door' to let in whoever.

mircea_popescu: the point is, that "i would suck at fucking dudes" is a very poor excuse and entirely rotten pillar of identity.

mircea_popescu: it's not like preference's forbidden or anything. i'm sure i'd be great at fucking dudes, too, i never fucked any nevertheless.

mircea_popescu: but by all means, if you, trinque or anyone else feels like running su airpilot style court, your right and priviledge. i'm sure it'll work just fine.

mircea_popescu: why should i pick and why should i care.

mircea_popescu: i personally prefer the "here's the book pile, go read whatever ; do something"

asciilifeform: gymnasts may not be perfect example. when you have a role where the training per se is costly, you're stuck picking. e.g., pilots; i recently read a quite interesting autobio, 'Обречены на подвиг' ('condemned to heroism', roughly) by su flying d00d / instructor / colonel. described how children having any physical imperfection, even tooth cavity, were mercilessly rejected from flight academy even if they passed all of ☟︎

mircea_popescu: and no, i have no argument - it is EASIER to think of yourself as "i am good at x" raqther than "brain works or doesn't work."

mircea_popescu: "this cpu could do anything" "i don't see your sql server doing any dos emulation work" "nigga... wut ?!"

mircea_popescu: i also didn't see meat airplane borne out of the soviet maternity circuit. this proves something ?

asciilifeform: did i miss rsa worst-case difficulty proof emerging from mircea_popescu's well-trained harem ?

mircea_popescu: and i am entirely unconvinced by this "good at x" bs. nobody's "good at x". the "good at x" is nonsense of the ilk and period of "blind love", to try and help the wedge of who-equivalency into the trunk of reality.

mircea_popescu: i don't think i did no