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trinque: asciilifeform: cuntoo bootstrapper produces the same genesis.vpatch repeatedly, runs without network (so we can be certain all deps have been captured). Running once more with ^ and that oughta be that. I'll post the poast tomorrow so it doesn'
t sound like the tired pile of notebook scribblings it currently does.
trinque: do/don'
t differ is known by whether there's output
trinque: seems kinda screwy that vdiff exits nonzero when the parameters differ. I know this is classical diff behavior, but eh. I'd expect that to mean "wasn'
t able to perform diff"
BingoBoingo: Incentivizing selling is definitely been a thing we haven'
t succeeded much with so far and could be ripe.
trinque: could very well be that plenty hadn'
t had - you know - the thought, man.
mircea_popescu: i mean, i watched the lava flow at night from my bed. living on the side of an active volcano doesn'
t strike me as "humanity's best moment" material.
mircea_popescu: i don'
t know that i'd move there ; but it's certainly a pleasant two day trip.
billymg: but i see your point, if it doesn'
t render properly on a republican box then it doesn'
t render properly
mircea_popescu: i believe... but if eg archive doesn'
t see it properly...
mircea_popescu: why the fuck this isn'
t default is anyone's guess, there's ~no other way anyone wants text to ever go anyway. but w/e.
billymg: it won'
t fix css but it may save you from some headaches
mircea_popescu: and the annoying part of syntax wrangling is that now it overwrote my mental space, i don'
t even fucking recall wtf i was saying.
mircea_popescu: previous line is fuckspaced because obviously, it didn'
t break an early fragment of the long line to fix the typographic needs of the line coming before it.
mircea_popescu: i never saw that "spittyspot" or w/e thing, but im ready to write an open guarantee it doesn'
t come with basic functionality.
mircea_popescu: ""It seems believable to me. I dunno why someone would make this up," Cochran told Motherboard in an encrypted chat. " because totally, "attention whoring, just like everyone else in the attention whoring '''industry'''" is not self-evident and arch-sufficient and explanation. and don'
t forget kids -- ENCRYPTED CHATS!!!
mircea_popescu: you don'
t put it in, can'
t be arsed to put it in, think shouldn'
t have to put it in -- ergo not need it.
phf: mircea_popescu: i have a box of your pogos, i can probably still store them, but i won'
t be able to keep them safe, nor produce them on short notice
trinque: so it reads only hosts file and doesn'
t know how to use remote DNS servers
a111: Logged on 2018-11-11 13:50 mircea_popescu: don'
t ask the customer for things you don'
t have to. customer pays, that's enough.
trinque: your hosts file is going to contain things mine doesn'
t, at the very least your hostname
trinque: I'll need to read up on how DNS resolution works in musl to recommend something strongly, but might be as simple as having it read a second hosts file. I don'
t know of any support for including one hosts file in another in either musl or glibc.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-22 21:57 mircea_popescu: in other related matters : i'm authorizing her to add a patch on s.mg crypto lib, to permit arbitrary size e. i recall the threads at the time, but there's a ~really~ good reason to do it : we don'
t want to pass back and forth kbs worth of exponents. udp packets are small, and there's all the complicated matchwork of sizes meeting keys etc.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-23 17:05 diana_coman: when I say I can'
t comment I mean it barfs with "incorrect captcha" while the captcha thing says it's shut down so no word to enter
mircea_popescu: so now one day at the beach, when left behind with a girl because its mistress had... well, was busy ok, it wouldn'
t even eat the most delicious tp! NOT SAFE TO EAT TREATS WITHOUT BELOVED MISTRESS!
diana_coman: when I say I can'
t comment I mean it barfs with "incorrect captcha" while the captcha thing says it's shut down so no word to enter
☟︎ diana_coman: ugh, asciilifeform I can'
t seem to be able to comment on your blog? (and fwiw it's also a pain because it won'
t work with ip in hosts only, I have to access it from toilet-pc)
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, fixed-length strings get rid of all sorts of ugh pretty much everywhere; this being said, I can'
t quite tell what we need as filenames and recall that they include the path - I think that's the main reason why it will still be variable
mircea_popescu: in other related matters : i'm authorizing her to add a patch on s.mg crypto lib, to permit arbitrary size e. i recall the threads at the time, but there's a ~really~ good reason to do it : we don'
t want to pass back and forth kbs worth of exponents. udp packets are small, and there's all the complicated matchwork of sizes meeting keys etc.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: we can'
t so assume, because natural language has no definite meaning.
diana_coman: I can'
t quite tell for sure what she means by worry i.e. if empty loop or not
diana_coman hears asciilifefore singing don'
t worry, be happy
trinque: since its set up to have classical gentoo portage as "just another repo" I haven'
t had a single problem with building things that aren'
t yet vpatch-ebuilds
trinque: just need to make an ebuild of phf's latest, haven'
t done that yet, and to see what deps it will require in the genesis.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo so next time ask! << Short fat socially awkward african from Sudan, at the time I figured he didn'
t have social captial outside of whatever feifdom his father carved
BingoBoingo: Maybe he wasn'
t used to the hookers being as coy as they are here? He never got specific
diana_coman: onth it makes easier to avoid the mess since it's all at one time, can'
t quite complain
diana_coman: sure, not asked; the point was that there was someone to coordinate/think that so it got done; now there isn'
t, they do what they want rite, so...it's not done
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, aha; and I wouldn'
t be surprised if clasa muncitoare resented them for it
mircea_popescu: i dunno, haven'
t been in a long time. was never much of a problem historically, but then again back then only cool people had cars anyway
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no but the problem here isn'
t even "write software", which even ALLOWS for something like an ooda coupling. the idea here is to somehow magic trends and events, splice them together into resonant actionables ?!
mircea_popescu: how ? how is this miracle supposed to occur ? random girl that lacks the werewithal to skip past "oh, how would any girl do that" into the "wow, apparently this guy actually has had this occur before ?", by the act of being hired by who ? goldman sachs ? magically becomes so finely intelligent she can somehow distil things i don'
t see into effectual "oscillators" ?! then how the fuck did things like
http://trilema.com/2012/la mircea_popescu: certainly not instantaneous. for that matter, no propagation is proven at all or anything. but rather than "mysterious alien forces", how about you know... "in 2017 we hadn'
t started building a house which meanwhile we did build, leaky roof y compris"
mircea_popescu: "singing" in this manner isn'
t nearly trivial, which is why say dogs don'
t do it. dogs do all sorts of things, but understanding glass as a system to the degree needed here is rather tall a fence.
mircea_popescu: "oh woe to me, of course mp is rich, he spent a summer with bitcoin at $2" "and what were you doing late nov 2018 ?" "oh, bitcoin didn'
t look good anymore ; i'll be back to woe my whine once it comes back up".
mircea_popescu: or of the "it's unfair that guy is a lord just because he read the call back when i wasn'
t born yet". or however you turn it, it's the same fucking thing.
mircea_popescu: self-proclaimed "independent minds"/fuckwads GOTTA be hurt. that's what their life is about and for, "options". can'
t simply submit and worship bitcoin cock.
mircea_popescu: just because they're stupid doesn'
t mean they're not some mother's children too!
trinque: looks more like their backup service doesn'
t work and has been trying and failing to backup the box for about a day
trinque: haven'
t a damned at the present. I'm just going to redeploy the thing clean elsewhere.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-18 21:59 trinque: taking it the other way, now there's this process where trinque swears to whoever's ledger that asks (fee or not, doesn'
t matter here). this comes to signify something, trustworthiness, w/e., can go to wells fargo now and bring in this credit report to get a mortgage. now folks come churn deedbot to produce this empty signifier. later trinque is asked to you know, DETECT FRAUD, maybe with machine learning
mircea_popescu: seems to me way too much infrastructure for what's still less than a dozen accts with less than a dozen movements / interval in there. but hey, your corp, can'
t exactly say you don'
t learn from mistakes, so, if in a position to try things out this is a thing to try like many others.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-19 22:42 diana_coman: bvt>
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-19#1873650 << well, if i do common part (api) first, then diverging system-specific branches, i still could add new functionality on top of *each* of these branches. i don'
t like this option. -> perhaps unsurprisingly, the part that one doesn'
t like is however actually correct i.e. yes, you'll have to maintain the two separately if they are separate; hence my original "they are 2 trees" - because that's
diana_coman: bvt>
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-19#1873650 << well, if i do common part (api) first, then diverging system-specific branches, i still could add new functionality on top of *each* of these branches. i don'
t like this option. -> perhaps unsurprisingly, the part that one doesn'
t like is however actually correct i.e. yes, you'll have to maintain the two separately if they are separate; hence my original "they are 2 trees" - because that's
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-11-19 21:44 bvt: alternatively, i could add new functions at common tree part if i don'
t touch any files included in later vpatches (so adding entries to manifest would be not possible). seems like some quite unnatural acrobatics to me.
bvt: alternatively, i could add new functions at common tree part if i don'
t touch any files included in later vpatches (so adding entries to manifest would be not possible). seems like some quite unnatural acrobatics to me.
☟︎ bvt:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-19#1873650 << well, if i do common part (api) first, then diverging system-specific branches, i still could add new functionality on top of *each* of these branches. i don'
t like this option.
☝︎ diana_coman: so if you are not sure, I'd even keep the trees separately, I still don'
t quite see the problem with this (the benefit being that it doesn'
t force you to decide NOW on something you don'
t yet ...know)
diana_coman: bvt, precisely because it can'
t be fully clear in advance I'd suggest to choose the more flexible v-structure rather than something with set in stone requirements (such as API as root of the v tree sort of thing); this is NOT to say or guarantee you won'
t regrind but simply to not make ~surely needed
bvt: ftr, i don'
t expect that i will make this tree without a single regrind
diana_coman: basically it's just a way to cause yourself trouble, I wouldn'
t recommend
mod6: I won'
t speak for BingoBoingo as to why his ledger copy does not show the 0.1 BTC sent from me to him, and then back from him to me. I'll let him speak to that.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-19 05:30 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: why does mod6's ledger show a transaction for 0.1 btc to you on august 12th and then back from you on august 17th? it doesn'
t affect the accounting, but i am perplexed as you both stated that your ledgers in these shared notes contained all of your pizarro transactions with noted exceptions that do not include that transaction.
diana_coman: bvt, while I don'
t see a big problem per se with an empty genesis, the question for your specific situation is why glue together 2 trees if they diverge right from the start anyway?
diana_coman: phf, I wanted to sign your vtools patches but I realised that they are using sha so I don'
t really know: do you plan to regrind them with keccak?
bvt: 2. i seem to remember but can'
t find right now a discussion (around time spyked published adalisp) that making such a genesis should be ok. perhaps i am confused about the context of that discussion and did something stupid.
bvt: 1. x86 and arm trees will diverge pretty much from the start, i can'
t see how anything useful and complete can be packed into genesis.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: why does mod6's ledger show a transaction for 0.1 btc to you on august 12th and then back from you on august 17th? it doesn'
t affect the accounting, but i am perplexed as you both stated that your ledgers in these shared notes contained all of your pizarro transactions with noted exceptions that do not include that transaction.
☟︎ trinque: if you don'
t see how this leads straight to the contemporary hell, you do need to take that vacation.
trinque: taking it the other way, now there's this process where trinque swears to whoever's ledger that asks (fee or not, doesn'
t matter here). this comes to signify something, trustworthiness, w/e., can go to wells fargo now and bring in this credit report to get a mortgage. now folks come churn deedbot to produce this empty signifier. later trinque is asked to you know, DETECT FRAUD, maybe with machine learning
☟︎ trinque: I don'
t see how I'm not being a friend, if you like.
trinque: you responded to 0% of the substance of what I said, and came back with "sorry you don'
t like me". come on, give it some effort!
mod6: I didn'
t mean any offense by the thread, I hope you and trinque will forgive.
mod6: I didn'
t think that was the case! I thought I was being quite logical, tbh.
trinque: if someone shows me the thing didn'
t work, I go fix a bug, but dispute resolution between users happens in *your* courts, not mine. if I later condescend to involve myself in the affairs of lowlier folks than anyone present, it'll come yes with a hefty fee, or hanging both, or whatever most dissuades the behavior.
mod6: I guess I didn'
t know that.
trinque: mod6: you don'
t want me derping about like I'm republican transunion. there isn'
t such a thing.