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a111: Logged on 2017-01-11 19:02 asciilifeform: phf: believe or not, asciilifeform sat on a jury once where 100% of
the evidence was
the computrace nonsense
mircea_popescu: but anyway, yes BingoBoingo has it,
the "expert witness" is perhaps
the prime manner
through which pantsuit state maintains both pretense of justice and pretense of its own relevancy. judge judges "correctly" on "the basis of evidence" and "evidence" is carefully curated. ye olde "toxic facts / fake news" approach
to utopianism.
mircea_popescu: should be funny
to see
the same argument brought
the other way
mircea_popescu: recall it was bush's idea "we can;'t let people out of our kidnapping centers,
tehy'd fucking sue"
mircea_popescu: wel lfor one
thing
that'd open
the whole civil liability can of worms
BingoBoingo: They gotta constantly A/B
test
their copywriting
BingoBoingo: Well,
the US courts discussion is always a process of papering over "having been stolen from"
BingoBoingo: Well, gotta keep
the "expert witness" racket going
mircea_popescu totally sees it, signing a "i deeply regret all
these usg politrucks did not see
the wisdow in
time" eventually.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-22 21:39 asciilifeform:
the janitor with a pail of petrol, is a
t-cell, killing off inca cancer, whether knows it or not.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly,
they all put forth
the same pretense, hitler's "take over without breaking as much as a windowpane" very neatly mirrors calvin's "condemnation" of
the 1524 wehrmacht.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i'm vaguely curious how long until scholarship comes
to senses, puts hitler where he belongs -- in lengthy line of peasant revolt leaders, with calvin, gh. doja, what have you.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because
the issues
the child is struggling with is
that he had no dad
to
take him hunting,
mircea_popescu: (technically, he just shot some random old driver and some cosmonauts, but w/e. dood was going
to
take over govt by himself and shit,
there's a difference between infantilism and insanity.)
a111: Logged on 2018-08-22 21:51 asciilifeform: 'Andropov: Why did you decide
that you are a judge and can decide with a gun in your hands? Ilyin: Because a person should live not exist.'
mircea_popescu: the range wars in
the very us raged in living memory as an exact manifest of
this whole
thing.
mircea_popescu: wtf end state, "don't
take your guns
to
town, boy" is specifically about "don't ~START~ something".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't believe
that happened.
the difference i propose is
that for him, said "butchering" is an asimptote,
the mind never quite reaches it. which is how
they end up believing
that "i pick up gun and start shooting" is
the ~end~ state.
mircea_popescu: so remote is
this "delectable pork sausage" in fact,
that scarcely he perceives
the difference between waving gun out of suv window and shooting some innocent bastard.
mircea_popescu: y is
the universal imago of
the contemporaneous english speaking young male.
mircea_popescu: nothing's nearly as drastic in fact as
the "preparative" imagination promised.
mircea_popescu: in any case, it might be
that
the "decolonialization" sudden failure of europe has had
the undiagnosed effect of removing fundamental mechanisms required for male maturation, leaving a sort of unstable state. perhaps
the case is boys could manage just fine, if
there was some sort of resource available
to explain
that... i don't even know, whatever
the fuck,
that it's ok
to be a boy and it'll work out in
the end.
mircea_popescu: how do you salvage
this, "personal valor
transcends gender bias" ?
a111: Logged on 2018-09-01 16:43 Mocky: holy shit, an hour ago i was eating waffles and now i'm going
to qatar
a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 16:27 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i suspect (tho cannot know)
that douchebag understood
that he was useless , and
took refuge in religion.
Mocky: tell a boy he's being sent
to school, maybe he dun wanna go but no horror. hell him ballet school, (or fashion school or cheerleader camp *something else*)
then yes, horror
diana_coman: well, if it's a whole club, it has
to be worth more!!
a111: Logged on 2018-08-25 23:37 mircea_popescu: jesus fuck, check out
these idiots : advertise it at $1.89 ; charge $15. da fuck.
mircea_popescu: you
think ? from experience russki ballerina doods quite dangerous in close quarters.
Mocky: if it was ballet school,
then yeah something else.
mircea_popescu: there's a deep reason for all
the historical "initiation ceremonies", and
the reason is as usual need. maturation's axiogenic.
mircea_popescu: well,
there's
that old "as i became a man i put
the
things of childhood aside". "something else", you know ? not a girl, no, but who knows what
terror ?!
☟︎ diana_coman: if
that's what
the school promises, it's a
tall order anyway; and for
that matter does school make girl boy ? or what "something else"?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman alright ; but do you see
the argument
that ~school as an institution~ provides a higher onthological
threat
to
the boy
than
to
the girl, specfifically because of
this implicit "we'll make you something else" promise ?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I recall
that specific complaint mainly as repeatedly cited by you; but other
than
that I
thought it was already quite pervasive issue basically
mircea_popescu: Mocky different construction of
the id ;
therefore different capacity
to survive specific crashes.
Mocky: seems
to me both male and female cling
to
the continuity, but female has greater capacity
to reframe
the past
to fit a completely different continuity narrative.
mircea_popescu: neah ; for one
thing
the "i r lion" fury people shy away whereas
the "i r girl" "trans" people seek
the limelight.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman do you recall
the complaint of
the police a few years ago
that "you've got all
these written exams, now we're stuck making police agents out of girlies, god help us" ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: oh i
thought we were
talking "transsexuals" /
tulpas/ we
mircea_popescu: boys are supposed
to
try
things, yes ? scary
things, yes ? well ?
mircea_popescu: incidentally,
the whole "faux
transvestite" a la brendafernandez, "i'm a boy who likes girls but not like a man, so how about i dress up like a girl and we frolic ?" is very much
this "what if i could girl also ? discover one day mywhole prior life was a fake" etc.
diana_coman: ah, I can see
that; I'd put it simply: boy attaches a way higher cost
to "being wrong"
mircea_popescu: diana_coman ah, i just meant
the minor side point of "competent at wrong
thing".
diana_coman: might depend on what "self" one
talks about
there but anyways, it can certainly wait
mircea_popescu: whereas
the girl does not so need. even if it is extremely distressing,
the experience of
the loss of
the self is post-partum enjoyable, and in
the process ultimately unscary.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, i would dare propose
the fundamental difference is
that
the boy absolutely needs
to maintain
throughout a certain feeling of continuancy, a certain notion
that he's still a person,
that something from his past nevertheless even
today stands,
that his retrospective history is somehow interpretable as "having a red
thread running
through it". even if it were
to change, it must be continuous.
mircea_popescu: let us just say "is alwayes
too hard for himself" and come back
to
the particular issue in a day or
two
mircea_popescu: there's a bit in
the piece i am working right now which i'd like
to reference ehre.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 16:23 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the irritating problem is
that while
the
two characters are fundamentally disimilar, nevertheless
there's superficial similarities
that rankle. both use a language
to communicate what appear
to be
thoughts, and both can emulate formal logic in
their own wetware
to reliably come
to
the same
true/false values
mircea_popescu: absolutely douchebag character was better informed
than
the girl ; and more competent.
diana_coman: he demonstrated
that he was illiterate and so on; pretty much what you complained re nicoleci atm; no proof
that one can't learn
diana_coman: basically nicoleci
then "understood" she was NOT useless somehow? I don't quite follow