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asciilifeform iirc changed on all of his pages, if anyone finds 1 where forgot -- plox to write in ☟︎
asciilifeform: per mp_en_viaje's 'plox filter the noobs' dictum
asciilifeform: !Q later tell mod6 prolly oughta change that webchat link at trborg to go to your castle ☟︎
asciilifeform: !!down tanami
asciilifeform: until then :
asciilifeform: tanami: if you read and find interesting, please join #ossasepia / #asciilifeform and introduce self there.
asciilifeform: tanami: 7+ years of logs at http://btcbase.org/log .
asciilifeform: tanami: ...and ?
asciilifeform: tanami: who might you be ?
asciilifeform: !!up tanami
asciilifeform: if someone else wants to pick up this sisyphian stone, is moar than welcome.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, updated .
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-28#1925256 << btw found shortly after posting that the 1-slot cache is not functional in the given patch. might fix, at some pt, but currently finding difficult to justify putting moar sweat into beating of the dead horse ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-28#1925342 << sounds like possible case of naggum. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-28#1925355 << for that matter afaik remains unknown where went e.g. Framedragger. swallowed, for all i know, in bermuda triangle. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-28#1925341 << right, but asciilifeform cannot prevent the fall of uruguay as whole. so regards the polit-wankery as 'asteroid weather' ☝︎
asciilifeform brb:meat
asciilifeform: ^ apparently not since
asciilifeform: !#seen phf
asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf will patch viewer ever get fed !? and how about logotron genesis ?! where didja go, phf ? feeding the fish ? ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: to asciilifeform seems approx as interesting as whether the blueskins will lose to redskins etc
asciilifeform: ( see also http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-07#1921978 ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: i guess their miami cheques finally cleared ? nfi
asciilifeform: FA ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if martians were to parachute down a crate of clean cpu, turns out retargeting , baking linux, etc. takes weeks, not yrs. but martians prolly won't.
asciilifeform: !#s squirrel rights
asciilifeform: lol!
asciilifeform: the hard part is getting to-what
asciilifeform: ( to novel -- but reasonably 'boring', that is, von neumann, arch )
asciilifeform: fwiw i found that retargeting gcc is not actually very hard
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: arm per se is a pretty sad thing. almost as if someone sat down an' 'let's have a contest, can anyone come up with even uglier arch than x86'
asciilifeform: 'we ported tmsr to tmsr-cpu, nao eat shit, idjits'
asciilifeform: asciilifeform thought that could escape from the yoke of 'the mercy of' cpu vendors, but turns out not so easy
asciilifeform: rk co. seems to not be doing so hot in market. is, near as i can tell, being price-squeezed by the even cheaper (but for our application useless, as they dun boot bloblessly) arm clones
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox to revisit the rk q in light of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-24#1924558 ☝︎
asciilifeform bbl:tea.
asciilifeform mixes bag of cement to pour on the grave of this thing.
asciilifeform: conclusively, imho, uselessly.
asciilifeform: but guesswhat.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: per vendor's manual ( and interestingly HAD TO DUST IT OFF, there are ~0 useful sources on net, errybody wants to talk about intel's c++ 'intrinsics' lib re sse) they're supposed to operate in parallel.
asciilifeform: ended up that yes needs, simply to match the performance of ~orig~ genesis ver.
asciilifeform: orig. thought, like idjit, that it wouldn't even need the cache from the 2nd patch
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: see piece. (it's short.)
asciilifeform: ditto crapple's shit
asciilifeform: ( by breaking binary compat. e.g. current microshit won't even boot w/out sse3 , iirc )
asciilifeform: presently asciilifeform suspects that 'sseism' was a straight 'upgrade scam', i.e. trick to make folx throw out old irons when really 0 justification
asciilifeform: 'save patient's ear by cutting out eye'
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the extra coad req'd to keep the sseism regs properly filled, entirely wipes out whatever cost saved by using the parallel 16byte searcher.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: nao -- experimental proof.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i always suspected that 'fancy' x86 instrs were a sham (i.e. take just about as long, cuz really microcoded, as the classical alternative )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje et al : posted, for future walkers of this minefield.
asciilifeform: will vpatch it anyway so perhaps other folx, w/ diff irons, can see whether 'still scam' or 'was scam in 2009' strictly
asciilifeform: in other noose, 'sse' is... a scam! the 'simd' variant of tlb is actually ~slower~ (at least on my amd 2393se) !! ☟︎
asciilifeform: ftr asciilifeform was never able to get 'pip' to work at all ! ( tried many times when was writing phuctor )
asciilifeform: method is potentially applicable elsewhere (e.g. eulorism) so deserves a proper writeup
asciilifeform: ( worx on all boxen that have 'sse2'. 2x faster , in principle, where 'sse3' but i haven't any )
asciilifeform: it's 1 of those 'wtf didn't think of this before' items, will post.
asciilifeform: but in other strange, asciilifeform was just about to shelve the 'm' thing when realized how to do tlb lookup in o(1) ☝︎
asciilifeform: there was defo thread in the logs, where mp_en_viaje elaborated on subj. but for some reason cannot find in o(1)
asciilifeform: hm
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: iirc this was the 'cancerous fags' piece
asciilifeform sweated through 2y of organikism but not had occasion to use in battlefield.
asciilifeform: diels-alder is how one makes gabriel_laddel fodder, tho, rather than strained nitrogens lol
asciilifeform: i'ma guess they were looking for 'thermodynamics -- proposes, kinetics -- disposes' lol
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: how didja dig this up ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-28#1925178 << quite interesting on several levels. (not only the find per se, but that it actually includes 300pg of raw spectra, holyfuq) ☝︎
asciilifeform: me neither. and pretty handy. ( if it knew how to eat gnat, would be even handier )
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in rare finds : useful www-operated compiler/disasmer w/ selectable gcc
asciilifeform: in other interestings, apparently there ain't a detectable bottleneck in 'm', other than tlbism
asciilifeform: spyked: that thing is srsly neato, and i want one
asciilifeform: there's even a code for it in the shrink standard docs iirc.
asciilifeform: iirc in erry city police station in usa, erry yr they get 1 or 2 folx walking in and insisting they killed kennedy / 'did 9/11' / etc.
asciilifeform: PeterL: why not, try it, next time you're there. drown'em in paper..
asciilifeform: not to mention, the 'excel spreadshit' people are dumb, but not so dumb that can't do addition.
asciilifeform: PeterL: tricky bit is, you have nfi what is the constant until the van shows up.
asciilifeform brb:teatime.
asciilifeform: dorion: it's not there against mp_en_viaje & co., either, folx with serious money have ~0 problem moving it. it's there against 'engineer saves 100k and escapes from gulag to live rest of his days without working for reich' etc.
asciilifeform: dorion: most usaschwitz inmates never come close to rubbing against this fence, cuz elementarily 0 money
asciilifeform: 'for what do you need sack of benjies, terrorist, honest folk are happy to use electro-scrip' !
asciilifeform: dorion: bush-II amended. exact magic # was made seekrit, and changes periodically, and to attempt to determine it is itself considered criminal
asciilifeform: diana_coman: when loading up for last coupla trips to outside of gulag, found that can withdraw nomoar than 600 (us) iirc per diem
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i'd expect. but process for baking these in usa is ~same as to get benjies
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i.e. figures of 5+ zeroes
asciilifeform: ( what ~did~ at one pt step on, was, worked in a thing that paid -- by paper cheque -- quarterly, and depositing these took ~month, as the bank monkeys 'scheduled calls' with gestapo to Properly Register the 'suspicious' )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: reportedly, if you do it in mp_en_viaje-grade qtys , will find that acct locked. but i have not personally stepped, of yet, on this mine
asciilifeform: converting zek zone electro-scrip to physical money remains tricky ☟︎
asciilifeform: PeterL ^
asciilifeform: was looking for that link! ty
asciilifeform: you gotta physically bring a sack of actual physical money tho, i expect
asciilifeform: neato
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: iirc there is to this day an interesting diff : in nato jets, the 'you will soon [fly into ground/eat rocket/flame out engine] !' taped voice in cockpit, is of whiny chix; but in ru jets, man's voice
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-26#1924976 << see also ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-26#1924974 << ever play 'f19' for msdos ? is what i associate with 'career'. y'know, promotion through the ranks, rackin' up kills, then pension, etc ☝︎
asciilifeform: meanwhile moar profiling from bvt.
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: africa?
asciilifeform: (iirc even tip of antarctica..)
asciilifeform: well yea mp_en_viaje already went errywhere short of antarctica
asciilifeform: 9000 moar interesting places...
asciilifeform has no particular desire to go to ukristan lol