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BingoBoingo: In other heathen headlines: Apparently Llamas (as opposed to alpacas) might have the proteins necessary for a universal flu vaccine
bvt: i have structured the base64 tree as a directory with a library and example applications; only library is supposed to be compiled with restrictions, but some restrictions propagate to applications as well
mircea_popescu: bvt what is the actual underlying that ended up summarized as http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-05#1869645 ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: * amstan_ is now known as amstan << lol! that d00d is still here, i can't properly picture why
a111: Logged on 2018-10-18 18:51 mircea_popescu: Mocky i actually distinguish between smarts (the reductive ability, that powers "i suspect there's no such thing as intelligence", and typified perhaps best by d. kyon) and "intelligence" (the constructive ability, that powers "more loc, more tech, more future", and typified perhaps best by "fm-2030" ).
mircea_popescu: (alf's "robohitler" mostly exists as alf's own mind's reinterpretation of the boas-pantsuit ; cargo cultish lulz (say in the "artificial intelligence" vein to pick but one of many examples) usually come from the dewey-pantsuit.)
BingoBoingo: I am inclined to lean toward Dewey cribbing from the pop culture hegelians. Not a father so much as the theiving sad sack from the "I made this" meme series
mircea_popescu: or the year they really really need its posture as a float be credible, seeing how they also want a chunk of china's sea.
asciilifeform: apropos of upstack -- last wk asciilifeform did the ~yearly dig re 'does anyone actually sell fpga big enuff to demo 8192b-arithmetizer inside, fully unrolled' and turns out that yes (as of 6mo ago)
mircea_popescu: incidentally, apropos de nothing : Jean van Heijenoort is an interesting character, not because of his youthful association with one of the inconsequential marx-zigglers burlesque and slapstick acts of the early 20th century, but because of his later life as a historian of what could only properly be called "the end of nations as an intellectual construct".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for so long as you can fit in $process -- yes entirely same
mircea_popescu: same cost as in, fixed cost of the machinery making them
asciilifeform watched in horror as the cabbage ate teh wolf, last time he played w+g+c
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-05#1869406 -> the way I read this was that arab did not consider that as appointment, more like audience granted -perhaps, if allah finds time for it - to lowlife sort of thing ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-04 23:10 mircea_popescu: diana_coman imo such items belong in a config file then. though he prolly wants the ~config~ file to also be "human readable" by which he means hard-paged at 80 cols like for idiots. because there's no such thing as a terminal, nor user settings, and i gotta format my text in a way that's aware of his dumb terminal. and he thinks this acceptable, somehow, that at the time i write i must bear in mind how he'll later read.
mircea_popescu: now, perhaps this also could be made in such a way as to data byteness ?
mircea_popescu: well, we use 4096 bit keys, therefore as asciilifeform well points out, the native byte of rsa is 8192.
mircea_popescu: do you understand what the item in question is, given as example ? would like likbez ?
mircea_popescu: i still think you should http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-03#1869171 as a parting shot ; not because i expect anything besides the "meet mr al-schmukwari at 8am", but because why not let the remnant of usg.blue congratulate itself on "succeeding" ? let some schmuck "earn" a bonus, what's it to you or me. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "I guess you could say they identify as bikers." bwajuaja ok, this is entertaining lol
BingoBoingo: I keep getting distracted by not quite fixes that let the thing show a dashboard for one page load, as much as I would like it to be top of my list it can't today
asciilifeform: proggies written by people who see machine resource as bottomless well, are infuriating .
asciilifeform: ( i still see it as 'railroad gauge' , gonna publish 80cols till the day i die )
asciilifeform: ideally proggy would be distributed as a ast in sexpr, and we wouldn't have 'tabs & spaces' thread. but we aint there yet.
mircea_popescu: there can be such a thing as a standard length, yes. but apparently it'll be 512 bytes+
asciilifeform: mechanically-reflowed proggy suxx to read, i can tell that mircea_popescu spends ~0 time actually reading ( as in, go offline for whole day to read 1 proggy ) coad.
mircea_popescu: the line as a semantic unit is as long as it fucking is, and the terminal deals with it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as wide as i fucking feel like.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman imo such items belong in a config file then. though he prolly wants the ~config~ file to also be "human readable" by which he means hard-paged at 80 cols like for idiots. because there's no such thing as a terminal, nor user settings, and i gotta format my text in a way that's aware of his dumb terminal. and he thinks this acceptable, somehow, that at the time i write i must bear in mind how he'll later read. ☟︎
asciilifeform: worx same as the multiline notation in c
a111: Logged on 2018-11-04 18:32 diana_coman: it still seems at best silly to manually split strings that one would than have to merge if they want to use as such somewhere else
diana_coman: it still seems at best silly to manually split strings that one would than have to merge if they want to use as such somewhere else ☟︎
mircea_popescu: that's fine for as long as it works lol
mircea_popescu: Mocky you know all these exist as mp-wp already!
hanbot: t and a by now insanely oversaturated market, i can't imagine anything less than hundreds of hours/week is going to save it. i don't have the hours to make it my sole concern, but i do have some to help out. i think it'd be a shame to kinda decoupage some tasks here and there to a floundering ship. as much as i'd like to see it sail, seems obvious to me that here and there won't cut it at all.
BingoBoingo: In other local prey behaviors, theft from unattended vehicle titled as though it may have been a robbery of the physical person: http://archive.is/hIZ6E https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/le-robaron-al-jefe-de-policia-de-montevideo-201811317942
mircea_popescu: as perhaps evidenced by the fact you... can't custom, even if for inexplicable reasons you'd want to.
asciilifeform: ( it doesn't win 'vs pc' other than as proof of concept )
a111: Logged on 2018-11-01 20:48 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform speaking of "taking suggestions" : suppose you bake me a proper drop-in gpg replacement. in ada, constant time, does FG-aware keygen, signing, verification, and encryption/decription. 100% rsa, none of the "cipher" bs as per current.
mircea_popescu: shinohai your only available position here is "here is what i now understand to have been doing wrong, and shan't be fucking doing again, as exemplified by this excessively costly self sacrifice". not fucking "hey guise, buddy-buddy, are you gonna change to fit me in THIS time or do i come back whenever later try again". ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( doubled as a heater, at one time i lived in a flat where they didn't stoke the boiler till december )
trinque: I have as well. I will never touch a fucking smtp server as long as I live.
trinque: beelzebub can own as many stupid things that shouldn't exist as he likes, from where I sit. google wants smtp mail, oh please, have a second helping.
trinque: asciilifeform: anyhow yeah, I'm one of the sickos that uses the thing as wm even.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-02 23:04 trinque: asciilifeform: I shamelessly use emacs as interface to just about every heathen thing (gmail included) I have to touch
trinque: asciilifeform: I shamelessly use emacs as interface to just about every heathen thing (gmail included) I have to touch ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> they say it may take as much as FIVE WEEKS to get you your dough. now -- you wanna wait ? you wanna explore maybe euros ? you wanna call it off ? << I'll think about it a bit more. I'll double check the math, but if the transfer is 5 weeks out that still leaves us a margin of safety from the month of guarentee put up when service started.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: indeed. the other day was entry of i-nintendo into 'pro' market, as i understand. new turn of frog boiler knob.
asciilifeform: ( they even got various trad desktop shitware ported to it, e.g. photoshop, positioning as 'you dun need computer no moar' )
mircea_popescu: or is the idea dude's as hollow as a bagpipe.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathendom lulz, 'Buffett Loses Nearly $4 Billion as Apple Stock Tanks'
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, will be familiar to 1980s1990s east euro folk ; and yes i expect that experience's exactly the guide, ie, will get more frequent, ampler and longer lasted as time goes by.
mircea_popescu: they say it may take as much as FIVE WEEKS to get you your dough. now -- you wanna wait ? you wanna explore maybe euros ? you wanna call it off ?
mircea_popescu: dreamy-eyed "students" are, today as in the time of francois villon, whatever you can spare.
mircea_popescu: what was the problem, she expected a tip you didn't provide, as far as you know ?
Mocky: he still has the same number of trades (12) as when i first spied him in sept.
mircea_popescu: and if you deny it, the response comes ~as if~ you had denied everything-about-the-idiot, because, to them, you literally have. if wordmagic dun exist, if her words have exactly 0 power to anything, if she could just as well cup her palms, word in her left and piss in her right, then... then... then WHAT WAS IT ALL FOR ?!?!?
asciilifeform: when i saw it, i was immediately convinced that it must've hung on an actual bordello, as cheap camouflage
asciilifeform: lol hey at least nao mircea_popescu knows that i feed'em to him as i get'em, instead of sitting on'em
shinohai: (Latest is "42coin, priced at roughly 4 BTC each - includes malleable addresses as an "anonymity feature")
asciilifeform: diana_coman: unlike, e.g., haskellists, we only do things if they make sense : as you pointed out, 'bit-vectorized' keccak aint constant time, no matter what, so no particular reason to bother with the massage
a111: Logged on 2018-10-31 17:54 asciilifeform: implicit conditionals aint evil per se , tho ; i banned them in ffa specifically as they get in the way of constanttimeism, is all
diana_coman: not at all sure it's worth all that just for preserving the no implicit conditionals restriction (which as asciilifeform pointed out already, is not evil per se http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1867953 )) ☝︎
billymg: mircea_popescu: not at all, i was amused myself when i put myself in your shoes and read my messages as "how does the what go into the who now?"
billymg: hey phf, i'm using my pizarro rockchip as my current workbench
BingoBoingo: Seriously though, asciilifeform has met me in person and confirm I am not built like a person who should be seeking out fights. Yet... It isn't rare to be walking about and the sight of some local dork fires something in the brain roughly equivalent to "they aren't as opprosed as they are signalling they should be"
bvt: i also intend to genesis a ffatronic base64 encoder/decoder that i wrote as an exercise (also todo for the weekend).
asciilifeform: ( if, btw, somebody else has the time/inclination to do the latter, i'll only say 'thx'. thing is already in xor-sat form, roll the constant term into the eqn's, set $known-schedule as the output values, and gaussian-reduce... )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform speaking of "taking suggestions" : suppose you bake me a proper drop-in gpg replacement. in ada, constant time, does FG-aware keygen, signing, verification, and encryption/decription. 100% rsa, none of the "cipher" bs as per current. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: buit as it is -- it's good to know they aim to make money as opposed to satisfy the tweeting hordes.
mircea_popescu: im not disputing you're consciously trying to overcome it. but as a factual matter -- yes, very adverse.
asciilifeform: ( as it is asciilifeform floods the l0gz )
asciilifeform: sometimes i suspect that i threw mircea_popescu's 'how hard is $problem' meter out of all possible calibration, given as very often when asciilifeform posts a thing, it is result of year or two of experimentation; and on other hand if i put ~all~ of the intermediates and dead ends into the l0gz, there'd scarcely be any room for anyffing else
asciilifeform: the simplicity and reducibility-to-factoringishard of rabin is appealing, and wai not bake in advance so as mircea_popescu yr later doesn't 'why didntcha!'
mircea_popescu: in which case yes, it'd seem at least one workable method is for parties to declare F=RSA-n1n2(x) and then use its spew as otp pad for all their stuff.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in fact, as eulora comms mandate the parties know at least one rsa key of each other, it becomes eminently possible to use (session-based!) n1*n2 for this purpose.
asciilifeform: 'rsa as expander' imho is easier to reduce to 'known difficulty' than 'find roots of ~randomly-picked polynomial' is
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong with using the RSA as the f, but idea remains.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-30 19:50 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ok, how about this : let K being the key n bits long (say 512), and let f(x) = 2 * K[0] * x ^ n + 3 * K[1] * x ^ n-1 + 5 * K[2] * x ^ n-2 + 7 * K[3] * x ^ n-3 + 11 * K[4] * x ^ n-4 +...+ 3643 * K[n-2] * x ^ 2 + 3659 * K[n-1] * x + 3659. f(x) will produce a pile of bits, this pile is cut in half and xored together, the result is cut in half again. one such half is returned as the prng output ; the other such half
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dunno about this. even 3y ago i saw 10coin as a fortune.
mircea_popescu: here's the one point i am making, overarchingly and i should hope as loudly as humanly possible : ~THERE IS MAJOR BREAKAGE IN THE EVAL FUNCTION~, whereby man looks at 10btc in 2015, thinks "$500" or w/e it was, and then goes "the amt of anti-superficial $500 buys me is one hour, not one day nor one week".
mircea_popescu: "<mircea_popescu> as much as you have now, could have been had then! for, literally, 1-2 man-days, at teh most. you dispute this ?" "<asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: nope. couldn't" "<mircea_popescu> sooo! what portion of this do you dispute ?" "<asciilifeform> that 'could have then' "
mircea_popescu: as much as you have now, could have been had then! for, literally, 1-2 man-days, at teh most. you dispute this ?
asciilifeform: i dun actually have pill ! ( i.e. you're in roughly same position as prior )
mircea_popescu: might as well capitalize on Mocky 's experience turn it into a ruby gem, yes ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, maybe your thread. my thread was re "are we fucking idiots ?! we have a foundation that wants to publish statements of the nothing as its only output, we have a bunch of smart people not helping our own industry avoid pitfals, and in this vein forever" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it's, as they call in busioness, "a no brainer" -- i ain't doing jack.
mircea_popescu: the only different element is that today, unlike in 2015 (and not even RIGHT NOW, today as in this year) diana_coman published serpent code.
mircea_popescu: looky, the past 3 days' work could have been done just as well in 2015 as today. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and if you're curious -- the reason they "whisper" is because they have 0 confidence there's any listeners. and listener means a very specific thing : the sort of person who both a) meets the intelligence bar AND!!! ALSO!!!! b) does not hallucinate options. such as "oh, dun need to do this now."
mircea_popescu: im not attached to serpent in any way other than in the following sense you're well fucking advised to pay attention to : 1. s.mg is a corporation, meaning ith's here to make money. 2. s.mg is also trying, but as a fucking distant second, to be a "good" corporation, however that is politically defined. it doesn't give a fuck about this, not in any deep sense, if the money's good it'll go against policy, and CHANGE policy as i
asciilifeform: see, rabin dun replace rsa, because of the 4-roots headache; but given as you kick off the 'session' with a rsagram, the latter can contain a bitstring that gives seq #1 . then it gets incremented and appended to payload of each rabinogram, allowing the 4 roots to be distinguished.
mircea_popescu: only used as ratchet.
asciilifeform: as part of the rsa payload, give sequence #, and each rabinism will contain the correct next-seq in the correct-of-four roots
mircea_popescu: aactually... i guess i should've left that as a comment on the article in q. brb.
mircea_popescu: and it turns out qatar is actually more important for india than india itself realises : it's where the aspie indie elite goes to learn to be "gay", ie, "i can't get any cunt anyway, might as well get used to living with another dude, wardrobe as well as everything else comes cheaper this way, cheap enough in fact for even scum like me to get some".
asciilifeform: ( as i understand, was also a shit-test of eltsin, who 'passed', didn't so much as fart )
asciilifeform: btw is ubb same thing as http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1868059 ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( at one point asciilifeform sat in a peanut gallery in the godforsaken heathen pit where 50+ 'nadias' sat in committee, can prolly even make a guess as to likelies )
mod6: If a guy is huge, but can't skate, then maybe he has an advantage as a shitty defensemen -- plopping him in front of the net to keep the crease clear.