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BingoBoingo: I mean in St Louis they also got governor elect's wife
mircea_popescu suspects the proper romanian expletive to discuss these dorks would be "sa-mi bag pula-n ei de figuranti ; ma pis pe ma-sa si-i dau foc."
phf: haha, well, we're on the same page. i have a soft spot for shoulder pads, because that's your 80s moscows, blade runner, so i just can't see them in terms of "hear me roar". but i think we had the whole sean young thread before..
mircea_popescu: i thought shoulderpads were the first dry run of the whole "i r lion hear me roar!" thing.
phf: aah, i see your point, though i'm not sure about the definition of a thing in relation to "really into". a thing is a fad. gays started this particular fad, "everyone" was on board for a bit, until the aids epidemic. i think shoulder pads for example are androgynous, likewise a fad
mircea_popescu: how can i distinguish this story from "roger ver, who once had the most bitcoins of anyone on the planet, thinks thedaoattacker would make a fine bitcoin developer" ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> the fucking point is - whatever some old fart with a good old fart story the other old farts eat up THOUGHT, the street tough didn't think he made a good "fiedl operative". in positive fact he made a good victim and no more. << /me read it as old fart who was was befroe becoming old fart thought child robber would make good field operative. But the crime as I read is he doesn't figure that the child already is a field oe
mircea_popescu: i'm supposed to be impressed with some dork who ran around threatening "to tell" on everyone in the schoolyard for smoking because his mommy told him to, oh noes, prohibition agent / hero. ffs already.
mircea_popescu: i get it, every housewife must have her dreams, but dude, notice that your mythological avatar... GOT ROBBED ?
mircea_popescu: and in lafond lulz, "I used to work with Mister Bill, who was retired from Army Intelligence in the early 1970s. During the Vietnam War he tortured Viet Cong and NVA regulars at Fort Meade—no shit. he trained guys in field interrogations using real enemy. This guy looked like Eliot Ness—used to intimidate all of is coworkers just by the way he smoked his cigarette and wore his fedora. A 13-year-old kid stuck him up while
mircea_popescu: phf i dunno, the eastern european name is in my head taken over by that piece of furniture besson was infatuated with at some point.
phf: i only saw him in that one movie, and it's my humorous goto visual metaphor for malignant narcissism. i sometimes think that he's only popular in u.s. because of his funny sounding last name, kind of like zizek. like there's a weird feedback loop between the last name and certain kind of social eccentricity
a111: Logged on 2016-12-25 15:48 Framedragger: if i'd known that there'd be so many pops, i wouldn't have plastered my nym on all those gpg keys >.< this *is* a bit spammy...
Framedragger: i don't suppose anyone here has messed with android 'adopted' storage? (use sd card as internal encrypted android storage.) i'm trying to recover files from a half-broken 32GB sd card which has weirdo android-internal partitions and encryption.. oh god ☟︎
Framedragger: if i'd known that there'd be so many pops, i wouldn't have plastered my nym on all those gpg keys >.< this *is* a bit spammy... ☟︎
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-24#1590194 << i don't think crap-rsa ever leaked, although i did publish crap-secp256k1 for deed validation ☝︎
shinohai: https://i.sli.mg/Plpt2i.png <<< lo
BingoBoingo: https://i.sli.mg/Plpt2i.png
phf: i don't think i can produce any amount of vitriol necessary for the subject
Framedragger: (last thing i've read before going to sleep is how a kid high on ganja used a bazooka: https://www.reddit.com/r/trees/comments/25a19p/welp_i_did_something_terrible_in_cambodia_in_a/ ahem. but kinda funny)
mircea_popescu: i wonder if sv investors carry 15yo cop insurance for their lead engineers by now.
Framedragger: certainly noted! assumed as much :) includes increased pessimism for funding OS projects (such as openbsd) etc i guess...
mircea_popescu: Framedragger should be noted that i was a lot more optimistic about open source in 2014.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, anyone saw "when i want to whistle, i whistle" ?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-24 18:01 asciilifeform: dusman!! i had nfi that this persian word, known to half the planet, made it as west as ro
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-24#1590268 << funnily enough, in .lt there is that word, and it means something like "illegal taxi driver" (yes precisely that level of specificity). like microvans in the balkans etc. i have nfi how this happened :D ☝︎
hanbot: iirc second time i've done it, too. kbds everywhere, i guess i'ma install some fucktard blinkenlicten.
asciilifeform: in exactly the way i expected it would fall down on serious examination
asciilifeform: to briefly revisit earlier thread, i found an old piece by shoup that utterly demolishes the oaep nonsense. (unfortunately pdfized, and not convertible meaningfully.)
asciilifeform: which, incidentally, i suspect is why alphago has not been trotted again.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i suspect on the face, "the difference between stupid 5k cell brains and smart 5k cell brains is in the yottabytes they looked at" is almost persuasive.
asciilifeform: dusman!! i had nfi that this persian word, known to half the planet, made it as west as ro ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i recall this being said here years ago aha.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-24#1590218 << i cannot resist going back to this and giving it another whack of the spiked club. this variant definition of 'works', whereby things such as clim supposedly 'work', how would folks such as gabriel_laddel like if their cpu worked like this ? on and off, when weather is just right, and randomly melts on odd-numbered thursdays, and 'oh dontcha know you gotta jiggle the handle', and 'wtf did ☝︎
asciilifeform: i dug up, last year, an inqtel-funded thing where... camera watches, it claims, for eyes of evil snowgnomes peeking at screen, etc.
gabriel_laddel_p: seems I didn't delete new key, but rather forgot to change my nick to gabriel_laddel_p
asciilifeform: i suspect that chemists of old days used a great bit more custom glass than today not only because borosilicate was not a thing (and so, easier to melt) but also because their ground joints sucked
gabriel_laddel: I had it on a (now dead) harddrive 1.5+ years ago iirc.
gabriel_laddel: speaking of nuts, it appears I somehow managed to delete my private key, registering a new one I suppose. And backing it up this time.
gabriel_laddel: I did sign an NDA, so I'm not going to get into the details of what exactly we were cooking. But yes, it was most certainly toxic.
gabriel_laddel: I left out the key part of that story - they released the fumes indoors, in a building the offices they were occupying.
gabriel_laddel: I don't know what it is with the people here, but they're all fucking idiots.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: I was working for a startup a while ago - but they released toxic fumes into the air without a fume hood, so I quit.
gabriel_laddel: As I said: blood is in the water - it's fun.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: I have talentless thiel fellows trying to lowball me at the moment, but expect that they'll pay up soon enough.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-24 00:23 asciilifeform: i dun even want to picture how the d00d lives.
gabriel_laddel: Re-created (some of) dired in CL last night, perhaps I accidentally deleted it...
gabriel_laddel: That being said, I'm trying to decrypt my OTP and "gpg: decryption failed: secret key not available".
gabriel_laddel: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-24#1589829 < I was in a coffee shop and it cut me from IRC, like most wifi networks around here do. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm entirely not up to speed to this, but there actually exists this field in math, of "boolean function sets"
asciilifeform: i.e. problem is really two problems.
asciilifeform: (link -- loads, has a turd by same title and stock photos of 'collegiate' crapolade, i did not read further )
asciilifeform: i suspect that a good bit of crypto research was lobotomized by historic rng poverty.
asciilifeform: that was actually where i stopped last time. to properly and rigorously define the problem
asciilifeform: i suspect that one could even prove that it cannot.
asciilifeform: and yes, the cost is high. but i remain unconvinced that a better method exists.
asciilifeform: but that was anally calculated. i have not tried with trng yet.
asciilifeform: i estimated a 16 fold margin.
asciilifeform: that, you do, i warned.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes lol that leclerc dude is visiting your blog on a weekly basis ? 2, 9, then nobody gave a shit so he skipped 16 and i guess 23, we see him on the 30th ?
asciilifeform: i'ma bbl, off to play with pet.
asciilifeform: but i presently have nfi which one wins.
asciilifeform: so now mircea_popescu sees why i wanted a noncircular tape -- then the enemy knows nothing about the ultimate length of the output
asciilifeform: i will point out that if your privkey is n bits, you are already talking in n/2-sized chunks.
mircea_popescu: i mean 1kB throughout.
mircea_popescu: so no, i wasn't counting a) for more than a few mins.
mircea_popescu: i now have to a) generate 4kb of entropy (roughly enough for 8 4096bit rsa keys) ; b) complete 16k operations to pad ; c) execute a 5kb rsa exponentiation. so i'm looking at what, about an hour ?
mircea_popescu: let's consider the case where i want to exchange a 1kb letter. i won't actually use 1mb to feed the tape, but i will use 4kb.
asciilifeform: as in, if i have a good idea as to what is the plaintext, i can verify my guess.
asciilifeform: yes, it will be long, but of fixed length, and i can picture its structure
asciilifeform: but i know that the number of passes is related to the payload.
mircea_popescu: but you don't know how many passes of sha i make.
asciilifeform: say i discover that sha output is 'heavy' on 1s (in the von neumann coin sense) if the input was a sha output of a sha output of a string containing word 'nuke'. etc
mircea_popescu: how much - i know not how to say.
mircea_popescu: i will now proceed to create a string S += hash(S+1011101011) three times. << i mean.
mircea_popescu: i concatenate T.p with 101110101110 and encrypt it
mircea_popescu: i will now use S as a tape for the automaton to be applied to T.
mircea_popescu: i will now proceed to create a string S += hash(1011101011) three times.
mircea_popescu: message you want padded is T. i roll a random number, it comes out 1011101011 10
asciilifeform: i'm trying to write this as actual algo in my head
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i have no actual math to show, but intuitively it seems to me the above "take 64 bytes of rng, iterate hash over the first 60 last 4-times and then use that as tape to pad message, then put padded message + 64 bytes in question in rsatron" is practically useful and theoretically strong.
asciilifeform: existing padding schemes are precisely what i would like to get away from. idea is to introduce maximal uncertainty re the identity or purpose of any particular bit of unknown plaintext, and max fragility.
asciilifeform: (and i am leaving aside the fact that the use of sha may well introduce structure.)
asciilifeform: btw i scoured the l0gz in vain for entire hour, looking for where i promised this, and cannot find.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what if i use the following scheme : message padded + 60 bytes of padding key + 4 bytes of iteration count. the tape is producing by doing sha recursively on the padding key and its results iteration count times.
asciilifeform: now i have not proved whether 2d gives you more sensitivity to mis-guessed bit .
asciilifeform: very similar, and actually i began with that variant.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> i can only imagine their disappointment. << lol
asciilifeform: and enemy knows that i always begin letter with 'To:'
asciilifeform: say i want to encipher (dun matter with what) a string, 'To: mircea_popescu Subj: thermonuke launch codes ...' ☟︎
asciilifeform: i will give one elementary algo for using this, here, but there are others.
asciilifeform: incidentally, since (to borrow the lament of turing's school headmaster) 'the room already stinks of mathematics', i'll share a tidbit that i promised folx some half year ago and promptly forgot: ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: somehow i was certain this was provoked by some alchemical problem in eulora
asciilifeform: that being said, there are good methods for certain special cases, if mircea_popescu's diophantines are of a particular ~kind~ i might be able to hit up my dead trees for an algo.
asciilifeform: i can only imagine their disappointment.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, FUCKGOATS www is getting regular hits from places such as honduras, panama, etc. via search-engine referrer. and i am beginning to suspect that these folx were looking for material concerning the fucking of ordinary goats.
asciilifeform: it is not a very promising problem as-stated imho. sorta like 'my pet mouse died, i want to resurrect it, i have this here industrial vivarium full of 10,001 live mice, how do i use them'
asciilifeform: then i must say, if i knew the answer, all of the keys on phuctor would be marked 'phucked'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-23#1589133 << to my grief, i went and looked this up. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i dun even want to picture how the d00d lives. ☟︎