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diana_coman: this is why I said it has nothing to do with outside expectations and what not really

diana_coman: I'm very happy to not be "happy" in that way, lol

diana_coman: I suspect "unhappy lives" was/is quite loose as a term

mircea_popescu: anyway, i don't mean "unhappy" in the 1850s manchester bereft-of-any-joy sense.

a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 10:18 diana_coman: well, I don't really think someone can live a very unhappy life due to *others'* expectations; at most due to his/her own

a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 10:12 Framedragger: in certain places, it may be unnecessarily hard for say a man to be 'feminine'. i think that's what i meant, not more than that

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599727 << i'm with her. a woman may be assumed to be cowardly, and a black man may be assumed to be a thief, and an asian guy may be assumed to have a small dick, and if that works for you all the better. but it dun work in general, i don't think, nor in my experience. all children are born cowardly, all modern society tends to encourage it, the few who get out of infantilism aren't very gen ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 09:51 Framedragger: (that being said, and probably much against the aggregated views of this here forum, i don't really like this model. if 'emancipation of women' makes your gut wrench, consider that most men fail at fulfilling their model expectations. in .lt (where masculine models are very much in place), there are plenty of good, sensitive men who live very unhappy lives due to 'expectations'. this of course includes lots of unhappy gay people.)

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599724 << dude what, whose gut wrenches because emancipated woman ? best i can tell everyone just gets massive erections. ☝︎

thestringpuller: asciilifeform: they fucking upgraded open dime specs as soon as mine arrived. so I sold it to some derpy trader.

a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 09:37 ben_vulpes: best i have is that woman adapts and survives and man dies broken, fighting to the last breath

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599719 << i have nfi, link for context ? i dun think i read it that way. ☝︎

Framedragger: aha. yeah you're right. this reminds me of when i made plans to sorta-jumpscare a guy by him being kissed by two girls, and the girls were all bravelike and c0mmitt3d until the moment came.

a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 09:34 ben_vulpes: Framedragger: which reminds me of a thought perhaps mircea_popescu can make better use of than i, given how it's been evading my grasp: why is it that you can have brave men and brave women, but cowards are all men?

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599714 << i expect a coupla years of 0 expenditure drove the eventual 0 income ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 21:59 phf: Framedragger: it's always the same with you, "this online personality construct is great" "they do useful research" etc. until they publish "i don't believe in pgp" or really act in any way that you didn't expect. and then you don't have any recourse, because they are online personality constructs. how well do you know this "online researcher" if you ~having spent significant amount of effort to collect and upload ssh keys~ didn't even

Framedragger: sure. and that's the best one can have for the time being, and, *given trust*, it works nicely (dare i say, in a community-like aspect). and trust is unavoidable anyway and maybe the best instrument for civilisation. (also, need coffee)

Framedragger: well, i'd go so far as to offer some free support to taleb, unfortunately i'm not in his wot; will see...

mircea_popescu: hey, i dream the same. but the truth is, until there's enough critical mass of those "another persons", there's no good way to fix anything.

Framedragger: gotcha. (and agree). i still dream of easily-reproducible systems, though. but one way to abstract away the idiosyncrasies (of say wordpress) is exactly what you said: another person.

a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 09:23 Framedragger: (just complained to taleb about him using medium. this whole "scrape article right after it's published because the unicorn it's riding on may go really go down soon" is a bit stupid. on the small off chance that he replies with a request for a suggestion to be considered, i wonder if there's anything to actually be suggested. need to search for a bit (i'm certain he wouldn't fuck around with mp-wp unfortunately)..)

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599695 << i don't. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: (ftr, i don't get enraged by things i don't know ; i get enraged by things that are stupid.)

a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 06:21 ben_vulpes: i think you'd get significant mileage out of it, but the cognitive overhead would probably enrage you.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599692 << i'm not against it, but how do you handle the connection with some semblance of security ? ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: i didn't specifically separate it here, but that's where the 3 guess comes from.

a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 05:53 davout: and i'm really not sure the necessary prevouts wouldn't be rejected as 'attack-preparation' by random miners

Framedragger: bad example, i agree :D

Framedragger: diana_coman: i see what you mean. at the end of the day if one cannot carve out existence on their own terms, they are doomed either way - this much i agree with. (also, i didn't really have a fleshed out point, thanks for clarifying things for me)

diana_coman: well, I don't really think someone can live a very unhappy life due to *others'* expectations; at most due to his/her own ☟︎

Framedragger: well, that's the problem and object of possible critique here. i suppose it's quite subjective and really hard to defend. my hope was that someone may relate and define this more rigorously

Framedragger: in certain places, it may be unnecessarily hard for say a man to be 'feminine'. i think that's what i meant, not more than that ☟︎

diana_coman: Framedragger> (that being said, and probably much against the aggregated views of this here forum, i don't really like this model. if 'emancipation of women' makes your gut wrench, consider that most men fail at fulfilling their model expectations. in .lt (where masculine models are very much in place), there are plenty of good, sensitive men who live very unhappy lives due to 'expectations'. this of course includes lots of unh

Framedragger: (that being said, and probably much against the aggregated views of this here forum, i don't really like this model. if 'emancipation of women' makes your gut wrench, consider that most men fail at fulfilling their model expectations. in .lt (where masculine models are very much in place), there are plenty of good, sensitive men who live very unhappy lives due to 'expectations'. this of course includes lots of unhappy gay people.) ☟︎☟︎

ben_vulpes: best i have is that woman adapts and survives and man dies broken, fighting to the last breath ☟︎

Framedragger: right. and yes i agree, seems to be the case.

Framedragger: hm, isn't that because of gender role legacy, with "man taking the burden" and all that? i'm sure this oversimplifies things - it's an interesting thought

ben_vulpes: Framedragger: which reminds me of a thought perhaps mircea_popescu can make better use of than i, given how it's been evading my grasp: why is it that you can have brave men and brave women, but cowards are all men? ☟︎

Framedragger: usually i am a coward and a proper ellipse is too much of a commitment to me.

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: your bot is ready, i'll be online sometime after 2200 utc to hash out the details of getting your code into it.

Framedragger: vanilla wp may work, yes... i hear some folx use medium because it offers "exposure". i wonder if there's anything to it (probably not). i guess you see popular articles when you go to medium.com, or something..

Framedragger: (just complained to taleb about him using medium. this whole "scrape article right after it's published because the unicorn it's riding on may go really go down soon" is a bit stupid. on the small off chance that he replies with a request for a suggestion to be considered, i wonder if there's anything to actually be suggested. need to search for a bit (i'm certain he wouldn't fuck around with mp-wp unfortunately)..) ☟︎

ben_vulpes: davout: aye, that's what i've always thought. no need to waste characters on a nick when a111 does it for ya!

davout: ben_vulpes: i don't, useful for when you're answered to

ben_vulpes: i think you'd get significant mileage out of it, but the cognitive overhead would probably enrage you. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 18:04 mircea_popescu: ah. the way i was thinking this'd work would be : the bot answers to any lines where its name is mentioned ; and i can update its "brain" with a !^ url style command. whereby it replaces its "ai" code with the content of the file.

davout: either way, I entirely agree that the scripting thing is cancerous

davout: and i'm really not sure the necessary prevouts wouldn't be rejected as 'attack-preparation' by random miners ☟︎

mircea_popescu: "i know, let's put a fucking forth parser into the consensus system, that'll be so fucken smart!"

mircea_popescu: anyway, that aside, fixing this in trb may be worth the doing. though in my mind it was slated for when we actually do trb-i, to be shot in head with the whole "script" idiocy.

a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 05:35 asciilifeform: davout: for mempool tx i can just ban the opcode.

mircea_popescu: "honey, i love you enough to cut through your abdomen and hope this kidney stone fits your finger. and mine."

mircea_popescu: tbh /me has little intention to support anything but the above in trb-i. no fucking "scripts". name your input, name your output, sign. that's it.

davout: "Additionally I have done extensive fuzzing to ensure the result is identical to the current implementation."

asciilifeform: davout: for mempool tx i can just ban the opcode. ☟︎

ben_vulpes: and yes i can cut, weld, seal. no big. but forge from billet? get the fuck out

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm thinking is stacked 2 high, filled with rebar and concrete poured, one could make a respectable fence.

ben_vulpes: what build, i'm going to live out of a shipping container

a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 17:05 ben_vulpes: i'm one more 'undefined is not a function' away from moving to boring and raising cashmere goats

BingoBoingo: An you're talking insulation, I thought you were talking the real estate firm

ben_vulpes: you can pump it through a stucco sprayer, which i think is very fucking cool

ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: also i don't know who uses rmax for structural elements

BingoBoingo: Why would I want concrete that is palatable to termites?

mircea_popescu: i dunno about that.

hanbot: i don't see trilema in results at all, despite top of second page yielding censored term (p*ssy). motherfuckers.

mircea_popescu: somewhat odd, i actually see trilema as #2, above reddit and below something called ibtimes

mircea_popescu: i may have been server notice scammed.

mircea_popescu: heh so apparently they're gonna shut down the server i'm connected through. GOOD BY CRUEL WORLD!

mircea_popescu: i always read it as a "i am dedicated to the empire and won't miss an opportunity to spam its tendrils". exactly the same substance as the "seo expert" pushing colon cleanser or w/e. just vaguely different clothing.

phf: i don't think it's an attempt to establish terminology. i always read it as a herp-a-derp chumminess with a reader "oh maybe you don't know what i'm talking about, i'm going to help you out here"

mircea_popescu: if i don't agree with what you mean by dog, pointing to the tv set is unlikely to resolve much.

phf: i don't grok referencing encyclopedias in general. if i don't know what "dog" is, i can probably source it myself

a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 23:18 gabriel_laddel_p: adlai: well it seems I can't have you do what I had in mind. Could you instead please review http://homepage.divms.uiowa.edu/~jones/ternary/ and work out some basic ternery circuts for the eventual loper machine?

mircea_popescu: oh this is the lerner dude that exposed that bitmessage idiocy, i recall.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-08#1599505 << mp is in fact approaching the problem of "lord can be given single link pointer can be trusted to figure out the correct tree ; but outsider is much better served by being given block, because outsider ~= retard". so i tend to love ranges for things like "referencing old cannonical thread on periphery such as blog post comments" whereas love line references for "remind someone in c ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-01-08 17:11 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-08#1599371 << i've been thinking about this problem, because range select is very handy, but i haven't figured out a way to make it not confusing. specifically the "stickiness" where you catch a range and can't get rid of it. can implement the traditional select semantics like shift-click to activate a range?

asciilifeform: (though so far i found only 'golden toilet' vendors, e.g., http://www.pyramidsemiconductor.com/products/microprocessor/1750.html )

mod6: phuctor is back up i see. cool!

a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 17:50 asciilifeform: published design, and not only design, but the mask generator (runs on, i shit thee not, itself, also)

a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 18:21 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598294 << scheme83 is like a "canticle for leibowitz" artifact. "published design" is overstatement of the century. scraps of published memos and reports spread over out of print conference proceedings, the bulk of actual technology needed to recreate probably somewhere on a TAPE. i don't know where you got that mask generator runs on scheme83. the entire production stack was for mit cadr

phf: last i ran into this yesterday for example here http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598392 i'm responding to line http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598295 but i quote one above it, as a pointer to the whole thread instead to establish context ☝︎☝︎

phf: sometimes i want to address specific point in a context of a larger conversation. when i speak here it's usually enough to just point into conversation, but mp with his audience perhaps requires more contextualization

asciilifeform: (is what i typically do, at any rate.)

asciilifeform: also i am slightly puzzled re mircea_popescu liking line-based trad diff but not line-based log quoter.

phf: though i like the idea of esc

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-08#1599371 << i've been thinking about this problem, because range select is very handy, but i haven't figured out a way to make it not confusing. specifically the "stickiness" where you catch a range and can't get rid of it. can implement the traditional select semantics like shift-click to activate a range? ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-01-08 15:49 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-08#1599298 << ahahaha trinque is such a texan. wtf is that, "couldn't decide if i want a rape van or a deer hunting truck so i got both" ?

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-08#1599349 << i find this odd, because i add two numbers the same way i add 2 million numbers. don't you ? ☝︎

asciilifeform: btw i discovered a 1000x speedup for 8ballator. but have not deployed yet, because, comically, it will rapidly sink the entire machine

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-08#1599168 << two separate sets of crapola. the 'factor == modulus' thing was on account of the way i made the debian 8ball, with (product of Ps of possible keys) being one, and (product of Qs...) being another. but there turned out to exist debianized mods where BOTH factors were drawn from Pproduct (or alternatively Qproduct) and gcd ended up equaling the mod, a case that was not (formerly) tested for ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-01-08 08:02 ben_vulpes: i don't know what sort of apology is due here as clearly nobody has ever even tried to apply those patches through a strict v, but i'm still going to go slam my head in a door until i get some of the stupid out

a111: Logged on 2017-01-08 07:26 trinque: http://i.imgur.com/gl2SCbX.jpg << speaking of toyota trucks, bought this guy

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-08#1599298 << ahahaha trinque is such a texan. wtf is that, "couldn't decide if i want a rape van or a deer hunting truck so i got both" ? ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: Framedragger yeah, and i didn't even realise at the time wtf was happening.

Framedragger: (before, i had this idea of user being able to alter ranges very simply; but obviously there was the whole confusion of "i want to alter anchor" vs. "i want to alter range" function when clicking on timestamp, which sucked.)

asciilifeform: and if it becomes an issue, i'll throttle the output on my end. (and some time quite soon i will be putting a series of db tweaks in, as recommended by various folx here)

a111: Logged on 2017-01-08 13:26 Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-31#1594569 && http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-31#1594581 << since most of those are 502s, yes those URLs can be exempted - i am a bit wary of introducing blacklist / ad hoc rules - after all, those phuctor URLs can later be re-archived, what's the pain - but maybe it's strainful to phuctor?

mircea_popescu: anyway, that's why i got so fucking furious.

mircea_popescu: am i the only one incidentally, who sees this separation ?