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mircea_popescu: Duffer1: 2.75% is obscene
<< i thought paypal was doing like 3.5
thickasthieves:
<+HeySteve> I'm listening to Antifragile audio book atm. heard it mentioned bitcoin is antifragile, could it be said to be antifragile to price action? /// yep, pretty much everything is good for bitcoin
mircea_popescu:
<ben_vulpes> penny stock basics, it is fake volume, it's not fake volume
<< just about.
mircea_popescu:
<Dimsler> i usually proof read wikipedia articles before i post them
<< well the notion that market makers are a topic on which wikipedia has something to impart here.... okay :)
mircea_popescu: dub: its where teh speculation forum is looking
<< this, pretty much.
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal: News headline tomorrow "Tim Draper lasted a total of 4 months in the bitcoin-sphere, managing to lose approximately 70% of his original investment"
<< i wouldn't be worried about that, he's served the golden toilet empire, he's coming back.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: wouldn't have taken longer than the unnecessary detour into explaining some localbitcoin thing, which served only to confuse the audience as to how the WoT functions
<< you purist you.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: -others // it's bad for Bitcoin
<< i doubt the airgapped bitcoin machine is all that common.
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal: Did Al Gore invent the internet?
<< no but if the darpa derps were satoshi-minded they'd probably have referenced some pacific islanders as their inspiration just ot mess with people.
mircea_popescu:
<cazalla> well, that guy from ccn responded
<< which ?
Shakespeare:
<+mircea_popescu> guy puts 1 bitcent in, gets a !up from assbot. // might be on to something there
Shakespeare:
<+mircea_popescu> thickasthieves: would love if mpex or an mpex property offered any sort of price instrument that would allow moving volume from other exchanges
<< specifically ? /// well, i'll start with the moon: just buy bitfinex and offer the whole shebang! otherwise, just would be nice to trade somewhere more private, transparent and trustworthy. The product could be options,
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i will take it very personally if the actual financial collapse of the us is brought about by a manic attempt to chase losses in their failed attempts to maninpulate the btc price.
<< lol! those causes.
decimation: re: ham bands
<< the point is that the 'law' already gave those frequencies to the hams, except when it would inconvenience a company to redesign the product
kakobrekla:
<mircea_popescu> jurov bribe like, with money ?!
< with the coins he got from daniel in the first place
mircea_popescu: jurov: don't want to end up with whole position on F.MPIF side
<< why not ? i'll just unwind it. the latest report actually says so, didja read it ?
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves: would love if mpex or an mpex property offered any sort of price instrument that would allow moving volume from other exchanges
<< specifically ?
mircea_popescu: jurov: i feel like no one is looking to mpex and nobody notices stuff anymore
<< no, i noticed, left the guy a later tell.
mircea_popescu: dub: and system where an airliner falling out of teh sky ejects its passengers to be individually caught by bot swarm
<<< from what i recall this is actually under commercial development.
mircea_popescu: decimation: Later they opted to operate more bots in the ham band
<<< seems a reasonable solution, really. emergency ham band requisition. what'd you have them do ?
mircea_popescu: cazalla: 150k + coins traded yet bitcoin days destroyed has not budged
<< lulzy.
mircea_popescu: mthreat: ben_vulpes: I had assumed the l-39 went for around $1M, but they actually go for $175k up to $500k depending on avionics, refurbishing, etc
<<< the opcost is the bigger problem there
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: chetty: you wrote bash bug?!
<<< she'd better not have lol
gribble: princessnell was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 0 hours, 46 minutes, and 42 seconds ago:
<princessnell> hey gang
gribble: wywialm was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 20 hours, 43 minutes, and 19 seconds ago:
<wywialm> Oh, yeah. In this we certainly agree
thickasthieves:
<+mircea_popescu> his skin could be hellraiser's for all the difference it'd make to his life. /// maybe the guy just had particularly distracting skin, probly not, but ive seen such before
kakobrekla:
<mircea_popescu> the risk when one tries to artificially depress a security is that he'll end up selling most of his load at the lowest price and then have to repay the borrow at the high price.
< way easier to default
mircea_popescu: "Name a science fiction movie in the last 25 years that shows technology in a positive light,” says Peter Thiel
<< anything made in asia ?
gribble: davout was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 3 hours, 50 minutes, and 13 seconds ago:
<davout> oui et toi-même ?
Apocalyptic:
<cazalla> [10:38:13] 150k + coins traded yet bitcoin days destroyed has not budged // may be explained by the fact that it's almost all shorts if you're referring to bitfinex
ben_vulpes:
<mircea_popescu> for one thing, you can't really shower with one.
<< gold necklace?
mircea_popescu:
<ben_vulpes>
<kakobrekla> imm prolly usg covert
<< no mp is usg covert
<< no u
ben_vulpes:
<asciilifeform> (more in that vein: are the tax authorities permitted to harass them, as if they were mortals? or need permission first.)
<< usg employees are notoriously immune to "mistakes" on their filings.
ben_vulpes:
<kakobrekla> imm prolly usg covert
<< no mp is usg covert
ben_vulpes:
<ninjashogun> jurov, hi. I'm actually a startup founder
<< oh look, i pin the tail on the recruiter donkey and the original spamgun shows up in an effort to lend credence to the notion that they're seperate entities
jurov:
<ninjashogun> we don't have to discuss that. But you have to realize that the files aren't considered private/secret, if the usage case includes signing at public computers
mircea_popescu: "But the file size is so high. Anyway to reduce the file size without compramising quality. My video file mostly contains texts "
<< idiot on stack exchange.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you can cut a good
<15s spot i'd like it
kakobrekla:
<thickasthieves>
<+The20YearIRCloud> how do you calculate coin demand jurov /// price
thickasthieves:
<+The20YearIRCloud> how do you calculate coin demand jurov /// price
kakobrekla:
<The20YearIRCloud> we've lost something like $75k-$100k over the past year and a half due to volatility and the inability to cash out our deposits quickly
< handy excuse
gribble: DanielKrawisz was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 13 hours, 57 minutes, and 57 seconds ago:
<DanielKrawisz> No, why?
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market
<market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitstamp. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the (1 more message)
ben_vulpes:
<mircea_popescu> kakobrekla you can lket coffee grinds sit in alcohol then add sugar, just like anything else.
<< o fuck the things i learn here
mircea_popescu: "
<Dimsler> i hedge my clients on there exchange"
<< this will need some clarification.
mircea_popescu:
<Dimsler> its been the most stable buisness in btc
<< nah, mpex is actually older.
mircea_popescu:
<thickasthieves> ninja swing out of my car to the trunk in one move, cuz why not
<< that.
mircea_popescu:
<Dimsler> who gives a fuck about the third world masses?
<< well, at the very least they do. but otherwise, people like anyone else, what, you think the conventional splits of the world become a thing of the world itself ?
decimation: related:
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/10/02/the-nsa-and-me/ << "Many were embarrassingly critical of the agency, describing its enormous paranoia and obsession with secrecy. Others contained clues to a secret trips that Friedman had made to Switzerland, where he helped the agency gain backdoor access into encryption systems that a Swiss company was selling to foreign countries."
mircea_popescu:
<decimation> indeed. The other day I was trying to find an etf or stock that didn't depend on 'bezzle' (ie usg fiat finance). I didn't succeed.
<< this is roughly equivalent to, "the other day, i tried to find a natural process going backwards in entropy. i didn't succeed"
mircea_popescu: decimation> my point is that a real estate agent is considered an independent contractor even when she works in an office with a secretary
<<< there
mircea_popescu:
<asciilifeform> so why collect it back as tax? answer: give the 'patient' an opportunity to underpay, collect penalty.
<< more like, give patient something to do with his time.
atcbot: >> No data returned from CoinMiner.net
<< [PityThePool Hashrate]: 120.95 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 0 TH/s [P2P Hashrate]: 1.36 TH/s
mircea_popescu: *: punkman remembers the derps trying to do webfonts before we had webfonts
<<< now that was a riot
mircea_popescu:
<bounce> forgot whose study it was, but apparently the easiest to read is about 65 cols referencing fixed-pitch.
<< bunch of military studies over the years, 60 to 80 in anyu case.
cazalla: thickasthieves: yknow i'm ok with qntra being all barebones design, but why on god's green earth is it left-aligned?
<<< just turn your head a little to the left, fixed
mircea_popescu:
<kakobrekla> at least euro is also worthless
<< lol keep a stiff upper lip!