asciilifeform: incl. stream

asciilifeform: trinque: whole problem with unix is that ALL of its abstractions are porous in exactly the way mircea_popescu described

asciilifeform: likewise it is screamingly idiotic when '* behaves exactly like find . -name '*.arsefuck' | xargs unless you have >9000 files then fuckyou.jpg'

asciilifeform: and if the system designer did not see it this way, then it follows that he was a tard.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-10#1711933 << keyboard meant as proxy for thoughtalphabet. i.e. if i do something 500 times on a typical day, it had better look like * and not like find . -name '*.arsefuck' | xargs etc. ☝︎

asciilifeform brb

asciilifeform: for all you know my shift key has a pin, like grenade, and it take out for speshul occasions.

asciilifeform: we're talking about simple ops, i should not have to touch fucking shift key ☟︎

asciilifeform: because wtf tree and ` and rubbish

asciilifeform: my whole gripe was that it ain't one.

asciilifeform: if we're doing oughts.

asciilifeform: i dun see why * should not be an exact shorthand for above.

asciilifeform: that dunwork

asciilifeform: so how would mircea_popescu formulate tar cvfz foo.tar.gz bar/baz/*.txt ?

asciilifeform: ahahahahaha

asciilifeform: there ain't a latin | either.

asciilifeform: demonstrate how ?

asciilifeform: and must die.

asciilifeform: spyked: THAT is retarded.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: demonstrate the ambiguity ?

asciilifeform: unix implements this defectively, with implicit hidden count limit.

asciilifeform: i dun get it. both *.txt, *foo*bar, and * , are well-formed statements with unambiguous correct answer in any possible case.

asciilifeform: so i did the usual tar cvfz foo.tar.gz bar/baz/*.txt and ended up with 'too many...'

asciilifeform: i genuinely dun see how

asciilifeform: entirely meaningful. 'all files reachable in this path ? delete'

asciilifeform: ( even in fat16 )

asciilifeform: this is an O(1) op in the file system

asciilifeform: i start with a nonempty dir, and intend to end with an empty one

asciilifeform: why the hell not ?

asciilifeform: rm -rf * does not have the right to fail.

asciilifeform: ' * ' should do the right motherfucking thing.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-10#1711863 << the proverbial bus with four steering wheels, gasses, and brakes. ☝︎

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: sexpr is definitionally correct human representation for anything whatsoever.

asciilifeform: sexpr.

asciilifeform: mod6: idea is that you oughta be able to convert ALL known wallet.dat into a human-readable form AND BACK

asciilifeform: ( or, alternatively, a very long manual massage )

asciilifeform: 2-4 requires a disasmer

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-10#1711822 << well yes, ideally. but at some point ~everybody encounters a 'i have here ye olde .dat from 2011' etc ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( i did get the python bdb thing going, with some massage. but the result is unremarkable, takes ENTIRE SECOND to import a key )

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-10#1711819 << prb wasn't involved here, was operating on trb .dat's ☝︎

asciilifeform: rapidfinance.ca << was spamfarm, last known picture looks like http://web.archive.org/web/20131127015336/http://www.rapidfinance.ca:80

asciilifeform: and yes it is quite obvious why none of the folx who made this , are eager to share.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: was making a 'is this privkey, generated in whatever external way, live' detector.

asciilifeform was wondering re ^

asciilifeform: i dun give a rat's arse re proprietary whatevers.

asciilifeform: ( though mempool viewer also would be interesting )

asciilifeform: wasn't looking at mempool, but at actual blockchain

asciilifeform: ( there was an item written by -- that very same -- znort987 ; but it dun work worth a shit ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: almost as if it isn't the EIGHTH motherfucking year of bitcoin existing

asciilifeform: in same $experiment, asciilifeform went to dump 'utxo set' of bitcoin, and found that there is not one single public tool that will do anything of the kind.

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: so them also.

asciilifeform: y'know, disasm/asm.

asciilifeform: for instance.

asciilifeform: like import exactly what it exported.

asciilifeform: correct. and undump.

asciilifeform: ( and, on other occasion, reasm )

asciilifeform: i.e. complete disasm of wallet.dat

asciilifeform: mod6: correct

asciilifeform: whole os has this monumental fixnum retardation baked in.

asciilifeform: we had the innumerable 'tar barfs' threads etc.

asciilifeform: well yes

asciilifeform: and it WILL barf one day.

asciilifeform: problem is that this dun make it less stupid

asciilifeform: which is a must

asciilifeform: it also doesn't dump WHOLE keypool ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: which is nogood.

asciilifeform: pretty sure that rescans every shot

asciilifeform: so what do folx with coldwallets use ? their teeth and a pair of wires ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: ( not a single one of the boxes i have here now, will eat the 'deprecated' bdb lib for python, that the thing insists on ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: ^ anybody know of a proggy with similar functionality, that ACTUALLY RUNS ?

asciilifeform: !#s pywallet

asciilifeform: -bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long ☟︎

asciilifeform: $ rm -rf *.txt

asciilifeform: in today's world of shitunix,

asciilifeform: neato mod6

asciilifeform: might have to resort to slip over serialport...

asciilifeform: no telnetd either, nuffin.

asciilifeform: ( currently looking for a period .deb of it, to no avail )

asciilifeform: 'gutsy gibbon' ships sans sshd and with no obvious way to retrofit it

asciilifeform: circa '07.

asciilifeform: i ran into it when trying to replicate the classical 'dead rng' debian setup

asciilifeform: mno mod6 , not a year ago

asciilifeform: ohai mod6

asciilifeform: i presently have nfi how anyone considered or even today considers, e.g., ubuntu, to be a workstation os

asciilifeform: ( update mothershi^H^H^H^H^Hserver dead ? fuck you and tough cookies... )

asciilifeform: today's surprise for asciilifeform : shitware 'linuxes' that SHIPPED WITHOUT SSHD

asciilifeform: in other fauxphuctors, http://www.allprivatekeys.com

asciilifeform: y'know, with all them others.

asciilifeform: didjaknow, didjaknow, 'one of'

asciilifeform: 'Bitcoin, one of the oldest and most established cryptocurrencies' << loL!! ☟︎

asciilifeform: ( all i found was... http://btcbase.org/log/2015-02-05#1007269 ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: ahahahaha yes

asciilifeform fails to find

asciilifeform searches l0gz for the infamous 'wimminz in kompyooting' loljpg with the chix holding iron like a pencil

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: enjoying aurora ?

asciilifeform: ohai pete_dushenski

asciilifeform: nonono

asciilifeform: try those.