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mod6: Not only FFA, but other parts of
TRB
that I'd love
to educate myself upon. I
think you
take my meaning.
mod6: (All of
this, my fault, ofc, just saying 'outloud').
mod6: And before
the republic, I was very much a one-thing-at-a-time
type of engineer. Seems like over
the last year or maybe 18 months, I feel like I'm context switching so much,
that I find it hard
to get deep into
the
thinking
that I need
to. For instance, it bothers me
that I still haven't found
time
to work
through FFA.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ft-free in face of
this conflict requires deliberate effort involving multiple people, which in
turn require management and guidance. 4. ``THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION'' will endeavour
to provide
these, while fostering community growth and development, under
the general principle
that if and when any other
thing conflicts with Bitcoin,
that other
thing must either be discontinued or amended in such a way as
to no longer conflict w
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 14:22 asciilifeform: i could even see an argument
that
the charter could permit 'trb-i' work under
the flag of
tbf. but
that's as far as it goes, per my reading
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856375 << let's give it a public reading,
then. it says : "1. Bitcoin is a far reaching innovation with effects unknown and unknowable. 2. It is altogether probable
that its effects will conflict with all currently established human conventions. 3. Maintaining
the core values as established by
the original author in
the form of a reference implementation
that is lightweight, coherent and cru
☝︎ mod6: One other
thing
that I should note here, perhaps, is
that I feel like I really get into
the work deep into
thought; when doing
the
trb related work.
☟︎ diana_coman: I certainly
think mod6 is and has been doing a great job in maintaining
the v-tree for
trb - and as I said before, I don't
think it's something linked
to
tbf chair position
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 14:15 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856334 << ianal, but aint
that
the ~whole point of 'international maritime law' ? where iirc once insurance pays,
the sunken cargo
turns into 'buried
treasure' and belongs
to whoever lifts it, no questions asked ?
mod6: It's been a
tough year. Somehow, we've got
to make it work.
mod6: I'm really lacking in
the 'sales' end of
things with Pizarro
too, obviously.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 14:08 asciilifeform: incidentally, does anyone remember wtf happened
to
the 'log
timestamps' patch for
trb ? who wrote it, and how come it never made it into
the flagship
tree ?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 14:09 asciilifeform doesn't use any fancy redirection-to-sys-logger for
trb log, and doesn't intend
to
mod6: I feel like I can be pretty successful in doing
that, it's
the other
things
that I feel like I'm lacking -- a senseable direction
to a 'Standford'.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: (the schmuck in question, whiom i wil lstubbornly not name, was so adept at rabble rousing, pompey had
trouble leaving his fucking house. notwithstanding pompey stood with caesar approx in
the position
the duke of exter stood with
the leading perfume seller on
the strand.)
mod6: I love
trb, and doing
the foundation. I
take a very measured, meticulous, methodical, and detail oriented approach
to
the work
to provide a very sound patch set -- as best as I can.
mircea_popescu: i don't necessarily disagree -- but
the explanation stands as such.
mircea_popescu: fine.
then
that's my explanation : suleyman
the magnificent, in spite of being
the ~best leader sublime porte ever had, nevertheless "fucked it" because he happened
to walk into
the room as corpse croaked.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 14:35 asciilifeform: at
the risk of 'bureaucratism', i'd suggest
to mod6 & ben_vulpes
to amend charter
to explicitly make clear
the duties of
the chair, prior
to swapping chairs. but would be curious
to see what mircea_popescu
thinks.
mircea_popescu: any of
these had prevailed,
the republic'd have died. so why caesar's fault ? cuz he won ?
mircea_popescu: there were a number of leadership lines
trying
to deal with it.
there was
the cicero- "be manlier" writer line.
there was
the caesar "divine right of great people" line.
there was
the pre-nero/napoleon fuck it all and let's party line (recall
the schmuck
that adopted himself by a peon
to qualify for plebeian dignities ?)
mod6: It's hard, I'm super conflicted about
the whole
thing.
mircea_popescu: well, let us look into
this. so at
the
time caesar was "pushing republic off cliff",
the republic had a serious problem, which caesar hadn't created (the marii had created, and
the bleg senate had created).
mod6: Pizarro, on
the other hand, I'm more of a fish out of water.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you hold
the view caesar pushed republic off cliff ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo
the advantage of a small oriental republic.
BingoBoingo really getting a kick out of seeing his everyday places in
the news
mod6: Right now, I've got
two major struggles.
The Foundation, which I feel like I've been at least successful at
the
trb curation end of (and am certainly much more well suited for), and Pizarro.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's on Avenida General Riviera, along
the walk from datacenter city
to "center" city
mod6: I
think, and I guess I could be wrong here,
that it could be a good
time
to bring in some new leadership
to
the foundation.
mod6: Thanks mircea_popescu, and all. Nothing personal
taken.
mircea_popescu: all
the foregoing aside, i very much hope mod6 dun
take any of it as some kind of personal rebuff. i agree with all
the others who like him very much, because i also.
BingoBoingo: ^ asciilifeform Does
the photographed intersection look familiar (actual event reportedly a block or so north)
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 04:01 asciilifeform: it's a q for
the current board. i suggested
to ask hanbot because hanbot is known as a very skilled organizational hand, and not currently running anyffing ( aside from, possibly, mircea_popescu's janissary corps )
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 15:07 mircea_popescu:
the utility of such devices is very moderate indeed -- ALL it ever does is support
the otherwise spurious pretense
that slaves are not in fact slaves but somehow citizens. lincoln needed
this
to support his
tenuous attempts on fucking over his country. i can't imagine what we'd need it for.
mircea_popescu: and
the "authority", or w/e judge, stuck with dealing with
the "reddit revolution" will, if sane, say exact same
thing. which
the morons will interpret as "o noes elites have abandoned us, must make own justice"
BingoBoingo: Well, still apparently has quite a few of
the orcs lit up. Still, something
to go amongst
the people and
talk about.
mircea_popescu: it'd be
typically orcish
to mistake b for some sort of REAL WORLD IMPORTANCE,
too. but ... it isn't.
mircea_popescu: well, a) shuffler is never live (mostly, because
the legal
trappings around it require
the shuffling be redone in some circumstances -- such as malfunction.) with b) orcs can't sync a gfx.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Number appeared on
the graphic layover BEFORE coming out of
the shuffling ball hopper
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 14:08 asciilifeform: incidentally, does anyone remember wtf happened
to
the 'log
timestamps' patch for
trb ? who wrote it, and how come it never made it into
the flagship
tree ?
mircea_popescu: aaand
there goes my
trilema article for
the day. i wonder why i never get
to publish anything anymore...
a111: Logged on 2017-06-06 15:24 mircea_popescu: and if experience with
the empire of "i just want
to" lazy idiots is any guide,
they're DEFINITELY not going
to "get in
trouble for buying microsoft". because "nobody could have predicted" and "they were just doing
their job" which "hey man, it's just a gig, it's not my life!"
mircea_popescu: the essence, inalienable and substantial, of all freedom, is global responsibility. yes
this means
that you may end up blindsided by landing empires of bugs. it also,
together and inseparably, means
that you may be a person, and
things such as "i'm not about
to
tell you what comp lang
to use" etc. as counterdistinct from
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-06#1666454 ☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-07-24 15:59 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider eg
that pizarro doesn't need
to undertake
the (significant, and unbounded) cost of writing "code of conduct" or "terms of service" or any of
the other nonsense.
things have changed. nude bitcoin is dangerous in
the sense discussed in 2012, but bitcoin-as-currency-of-the-republic eminently usable
today.
mircea_popescu: this stance informs my
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-24#1837545 as well as my position here :
there's very limited use for an enumeration of duties in a lordship forum. it's fine and dandy if any lord wishes
to use it in
training his own slaves, but
this is pointedly not what i'm contemplating in
these halls.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: the utility of such devices is very moderate indeed -- ALL it ever does is support
the otherwise spurious pretense
that slaves are not in fact slaves but somehow citizens. lincoln needed
this
to support his
tenuous attempts on fucking over his country. i can't imagine what we'd need it for.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: an "employment contract", a writ which delineates what
the ~~~SLAVE~~~ is
to do is no kind of contract. its only use is for
the slave
to oppose
to master, "but why should i be blamed for not doing x, it's not written in here".
mircea_popescu: whereas
the 2nd girl runs over
to find me, and cower behind me, and "massah, massah, job no longer doable".
mircea_popescu: the difference between
these
two is
that if
the alien empire of bugs attacks planet earth, and
they land on my palace floor and litter it,
the former girl will organize intergalactic war with mops and buckets, AND DIE ON
THAT FUCKING FLOOR.
to be buried later, in a
taj mahal built for
the purpose.
mircea_popescu: if i
tell a girl "keep
the palace floors clean", it's one
thing. if i
tell a girl "clean from here
to here,
this is your mop
this is your detergent you're
to be done by noon", it's another
thing.
mircea_popescu: the process
through which
they succeeded
this replacement was inventing a hallucinated "freedom" for slaves, a
thing
that can never be.
mircea_popescu: now,
these people wanted
to replace
the republican "several colonies" with
the imperial "united states". (but
they'd have stolen
the name "several colonies", if
that seemed more valuable in 1860.)
mircea_popescu: this is what
the pantsuit do : call good bad and bad good.
that's it. and if it doesn't stick,
they don't care,
they just repeat it. over a long enough interval, it'll end up sticking statistically, especially if left unopposed (and who has
the resources
to oppose sheer femidiocy ?).
mircea_popescu: consider by way of ilustration
that frank sinatra has
this reputation, unexamined, apodictic, of some kind of smooth, very sexually powerful operator.
this reputation was built on
the basis of a bunch of idiotic films written and directed by gene kelly,
the adam sandler of
the 40s, in which frank sinatra is POINTEDLY SEXUALLY INEPT.
mircea_popescu: a)
the anti-humanity party, however
temporarily called, "protestant", "presbyterian", "unitarian", "democratic", "civilized", "ecologist", "animal rightist" what have you --
they're still
these people who plainly and simply hate human life as a
thing.
mircea_popescu: i
think
the problems people in general encounter in conceptualizing contracts come from a very misfortunate but clearly delineated source, so let me belabour
the matter
to understand each other for all
time.
mircea_popescu: it may shock "the community" of not-bdsm
to find
that i... DONT have "Slavery contracts" either.
mircea_popescu: it seems
to me if
the latter were even vaguely approachable,
the former'd have been impressively developed already.
mircea_popescu: it seems
to me you're essentially saying "hey chairs, in recognition of how you've mostly failed
to organize an experimental physics laboratory over half a decade, how about you produce a unified world
theory on your way out".
mircea_popescu: is it your job
to
tell me "the chapter
titles of
the universal and permanent book on physics" ?
a111: Logged on 2017-05-31 16:28 asciilifeform: and if someone wants
to mention godel etc -- ethical engineer MAY NOT cite godel, EVER, just as a police detective MAY NOT cite
the supernatural and admit a hypothesis of miraculous
theft from a safe