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asciilifeform: make a case for needing 8 in a tag ?
asciilifeform: it'd be cr.
asciilifeform: ( latin only, also. i can live with latinized orcisms on occasion )
asciilifeform: incl. space.
asciilifeform: so proposed formula is, ` initiates, any non- A-Za-z character, breaks , a tag.
asciilifeform: ( that road leads to livejournal. )
asciilifeform: imho modifier does not belong in a tag.
asciilifeform: and so does `ffa , `ffa-ism
asciilifeform: so `ffa-tronic resolves to ffa
asciilifeform: re the separators, imho only whole alpha words oughta be tags
asciilifeform: ^^^
asciilifeform: and yes.
asciilifeform: what voicetron is for, neh
asciilifeform: failing to use correct syntax is own punishment -- you later have to sit like asciilifeform and answer q's re old threads that instead machine could've been answering
asciilifeform: imho ideally the latter.
asciilifeform: `ffa`.
asciilifeform: ( in least-falsehits )
asciilifeform: oh hey backtick lookin' to be the champ
asciilifeform: !#s "`"
asciilifeform: !#s "_"
asciilifeform: ( and oh hey another one we've already usedup )
asciilifeform: ^
asciilifeform: davout: if ç then just as well ы
asciilifeform: $ is nogood , already used in ancient search cmd
asciilifeform: !#s "^"
asciilifeform: !#s "%"
asciilifeform: it dun have much of a practical cost
asciilifeform: the @ thing is imho the Right Thing tho
asciilifeform: ( how many log urls can you even fit in a line of log.. )
asciilifeform: esp. if i want to mention >1 tag
asciilifeform: imho it is much easier on human eye to say, e.g., @ffa
asciilifeform: let there be 1 text.
asciilifeform: 'in-house' annotations that will fall off the net if a particular logviewtron dies, are imho the Wrong Thing.
asciilifeform: i'm not currently sold that it is great idea. but there might not be a better one.
asciilifeform: say i want to 'infect' the line http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-02#1719816 , now if i include @ffa it will apply likewise to it. ☝︎
asciilifeform: trinque: 1 possibility is to make annotation 'contagious', sorta like phf's back-arrows
asciilifeform: if it dun belong in the logs, it possibly dun belong anywhere
asciilifeform: it and only it, is the canonical material.
asciilifeform: the raw text is the only thing all logtrons ( and viewers elsewhere ) automatically get in sync
asciilifeform: trinque: why would you want to annotate out of band ?!!
asciilifeform: i'm satisfied that plain search dun cut it.
asciilifeform: trinque: log viewer naturally oughta support it. but without a marker, it cannot work
asciilifeform: but yeah i agree, this is orcism, and @ or the like is the Right Thing
asciilifeform: " ffa"
asciilifeform: he has a point.
asciilifeform: ( if live long enough )
asciilifeform: eventually we're prolly doomed to do what mircea_popescu described.
asciilifeform: better example.
asciilifeform: ( and if it doesn't, then the search is not-equivalent-to-grep, aka BROKEN )
asciilifeform: sure it does
asciilifeform: that still greps correctly
asciilifeform: 4evah
asciilifeform: ( are there any extraneous ffa's ? in the log )
asciilifeform: i try to pick names such as will not lead to junk.
asciilifeform: imho log supplies all of the 'pull' anybody ought to want.
asciilifeform: ( not only the discussion it led to, but that led ~to~ it )
asciilifeform: the entire context.
asciilifeform: gives you not only the code, but the discussion.
asciilifeform: better than asciilifeform's meat, in fact, by far
asciilifeform: it's the magically most accurate way !
asciilifeform: e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-02#1719721 ☝︎
asciilifeform: where else.
asciilifeform: from log
asciilifeform: my main contention is that folks who do not follow the logs, have 0 business with ffa drafts.
asciilifeform: insistent pullers, who do not follow the l0gz in real time, can go to e.g. https://archive.is/http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/lHtia/?raw=true
asciilifeform: dropping code into ben_vulpes's pastetron is imho a sane way to emphasize, to the point of blood, that IT IS NOT A CODE RELEASE
asciilifeform: once the thing has a final form, diana_coman , then yes it will go on my www; and with commentary; and potentially on dead tree even.
asciilifeform: ( which is about pgp sigs, rather than where to post drafts, but the abstract item is the same -- how to avoid giving false permanence )
asciilifeform: the fundamental problem is the one discussed in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1545
asciilifeform: yes, folx can get ffa snippets from archive.is/l0gz but it is clear that they are drafts.
asciilifeform: i also do not like giving drafts a permanence they do not deserve
asciilifeform: and afaik all of the sane people who ever read my www, are already here.
asciilifeform: and having ~same discussion twice likewise
asciilifeform: diana_coman: formatting code is a bitch
asciilifeform: ( the 16s incidentally is , e.g., 10s, on intel box ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: but i put it here to show that it is possible to cut another 2x time without barrett.
asciilifeform: because it IS more complex and harder to read, than the old.
asciilifeform: i don't know whether it will make sense to keep this version of knuthdivider, after we have barrett ( where there is still 1 division, but now it is ONE per modexp, and not 8192 of'em ! )
asciilifeform: mod6, diana_coman , whoever else was tuned in for ffa ^^^ latest .
asciilifeform: trinque: i left the prev. iteration of FZ_Mod in there, commented out. the current one is there.
asciilifeform: every other thing in there, is subservient to it.
asciilifeform: ( aka rsa op )
asciilifeform: the main routine of interest is FZ_Mod_Exp .
asciilifeform: neato trinque
asciilifeform: i did!
asciilifeform: note also that the calling style from early versions will not work, there is no longer a .Z , FZ is not a struct any moar, it is just a word array ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( the karatsubatron now demands it )
asciilifeform: note that bitnesses MUST be powers of 2
asciilifeform: ( likewise unofficial )
asciilifeform: trinque: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/lHtia/?raw=true << unofficial ffa.ads ; http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/MqgKb/?raw=true << ffa.adb ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: i'ma make a new one, 1m
asciilifeform: trinque: should be in the l0gz somewhere
asciilifeform: trinque: a couplea versions ago, i made a tarball for mod6 , mircea_popescu , et al, that demoed 'factorial'
asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/VtdrU/?raw=true << previous ver., for comparison.
asciilifeform: currently puzzled re why a 25% shave in knuthtron iterations, gives 50% shave of runtime
asciilifeform: grr comments typo, fixed, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/cicCN/?raw=true
asciilifeform: grr, wrong link, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-18#1715696 ☝︎
asciilifeform: meanwhile.... http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-20#1716028 >> we have (1) >> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/kBS9G/?raw=true << 16sec on standardtestbox ☝︎
asciilifeform misread : 'flatulently rich'
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i meant that it was visibly a modern deck, vs vintage su