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asciilifeform: i'd still rather reasm'em in the proggy itself, rather than baking in a perma-reliance on the linux nonsense. but i suppose is easy to say, but moar work to actually bake.
mircea_popescu: 6. if you pertmit this 16kb item be chunked, you basically rebuild the tcp ddos bs long discussed here. if it has to be in 1 piece, you can always use or discard on sight.
mircea_popescu: 1. server must be able to acquire RSA key of client. 2. the rsa key of client will have to go in a rsa message, because they presumably don't have serpent keys agreed upon ; 3. the payload for one chunk of rsa key is 1960 bytes, fixed ; 4. the size of a key is 3.x such 1960 byte chunks, meaning 4 chunks. 5. the size of a 4 payload message is 16kb.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-28 15:57 asciilifeform: imho if you want large messages, oughta have own fragger/reasmer, not the ??? in linux/ciscolade
asciilifeform: ( if i were writing this proggy, i'd rather http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-28#1855329 . ) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: here's the bojum, explained :
a111: Logged on 2018-09-28 15:12 asciilifeform: even if seems that 100% of 2/3-frag packets make it through in 'laboratory' conditions, still gotta remember that the frag reassembly buffer is the ~exact~ equivalent of the pre-trb 'block orphanage'
diana_coman: so then hooray
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because the largest packet we ~need~ is 16kb
diana_coman: asciilifeform, the above wasn't clear until now, it's clarified ...now
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hm if this is so, then i have nfi why you'd want to try an' shorten packets
mircea_popescu: but i expect can have client opt to pad with fixnum.
mircea_popescu: padding wouldn't cost in principle, except if crypto produced then entropy costs.
mircea_popescu: anyway, re "client pays for traffic" -- yes, but message traffic not packet traffic.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: given that you have rsa in there also, how do you intend to make'em shorter ? or is this strictly re the serpent payloads
diana_coman: anyways, will wait to see the updates
diana_coman: asciilifeform, it certainly makes the code simpler! if only I could always choose by this criteria though...
mircea_popescu: so far, productive activity, but only made it up to 3.
asciilifeform: ultimately it's diana_coman's proggy, not mine, i can only recommend. imho fixed packets make the coad 9000x simpler, and simplify crapola filtration also. but if diana_coman's application absolutely gotta vary the lengths, then do it..
asciilifeform: i.e. it'll still take 1500.
diana_coman: every time they simply ask for an object you force them to send over 2048 bytes, ugh
diana_coman: but if you force it to pad everything to maxlen it's a bit iffy
diana_coman: it's not the isp, lol; it's eulora-internal because client can choose how much traffic it generates
asciilifeform: ( per TB -- yes. per byte afaik no )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i dun think there exists still on planet3 an isp that actually charges per-byte
diana_coman: asciilifeform, clients pay for traffic though so dunno
asciilifeform: afaik there is no practical reason to actually send variable-length udp.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-18 14:26 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i wrote the item originally for gossipd experimentations. udp gives a max practical packet length ( what it is , remains to be determined ) and if given proggy's protocol needs variably-sized ones, you can pad with rng.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855101 -> it turns out Eulora actually needs precisely this since its communication protocol specifies different lengths of messages, hm ☝︎
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the trb observatory, http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/trb/10_2_ProcessBlock.txt
asciilifeform pictures ben_vulpes's texan fort
mod6: asciilifeform: ben_vulpes is bringing this with him to texas. He said he'd be able to have it up and running in a rack down there by mid-November.
mod6: I have also pulled '216.151.13.78' off of the Advertised Node list.
mod6: ben_vulpes: I am shutting down 'lovelace' (the second tbf node) now.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 03:10 mod6: Lords and Ladies of TMSR~: Update on 216.151.13.78 (The Bitcoin Foundation's 2nd node), this TRB machine will be shutdown tomorrow morning, to be packed up and brought to texas (it's new home). We anticipate this box to come back online on-or-around November 15th.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: btw figure out when you want to do yours
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: Sent 1 minute ago: <asciilifeform> lobbes's drive ready to plug
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Ty, headed over
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell BingoBoingo lobbes's drive ready to plug
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes updatered, thx
mircea_popescu: i guess im behind the times in obstetrics.
diana_coman: I suspect there might be more to find out from dissection of the thing
ben_vulpes: those reluctant to diddle /etc/hosts without seeing signed material first may: curl --header 'Host: cascadianhacker.com' 216.151.13.77/dns_update.txt
diana_coman: the thing is though that at any rate, it won't get the same type of use as it did as main disk so I don't know whether much can be found out from that really
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 21:17 asciilifeform: diana_coman, mod6 , lobbes , also give signal re whether you want the newer iptables-enabled kernel to go on your boot sd , when we take the boxen down ( iirc we already did mod6's )
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856937 -> yes, please; also yes, can leave the old disk plugged in to see when it dies, why not (iirc there should still be 1 usb2 empty slot on my RC as the other one has an FG) ☝︎
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-02#1857110 -> if it's anything like mine, it'll be mostly loud complaints from php because "time zone not set!!!" and similar (apparently php version on the RC is too new for its own good) ☝︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/2cESi/?raw=true << dns table update
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 21:14 asciilifeform: diana_coman, mod6 , lobbes , let BingoBoingo & asciilifeform know when is good day to take down yer units and copy contents to new drives.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856931 -> today works anytime really, just let me know in the logs ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Session keep alive packet not recieved: BingoBoingo to sleep
mod6: Lords and Ladies of TMSR~: Update on 216.151.13.78 (The Bitcoin Foundation's 2nd node), this TRB machine will be shutdown tomorrow morning, to be packed up and brought to texas (it's new home). We anticipate this box to come back online on-or-around November 15th. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Right, second heatsinks going on when they make it into the RockChips
mod6: oh nice, gonna put them heat-sinks on top and bottom 'eh?
asciilifeform: defo want on 2sides tho.
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell nicoleci s/to/too
asciilifeform: if it's done before i turn in, will ping , aite.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma go an' do eat/sleep-type things shortly, so lemme know if anyffing else need
BingoBoingo: Aite, pulling out. Still ping when it finishes. Will prolly be up a while tonight.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: unless you want to spend next 2 hrs in the bilge, go ahead an' sleep.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: he's got 40GB , loox like. so may have to come back in morning.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: next crate will contain usb extenders, so the 'dun fit 2' stops being issue
BingoBoingo: Can reach, no need to power down to do this. Can't really power down safely at the A/C feed either. Individual lines are all D/C
asciilifeform: i want max hedgehog on these.
asciilifeform: also ok to power down A/C to do this, they are unoccupied
asciilifeform: this is ok, stick'em on prior to emplacement
asciilifeform: i was thinking 1 would also fit on bottom
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lobbes got maybe 5min moar to roll, i think
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: photo grabbed, will upload when I return to coffee pot. Juggling enough memory devices as is
mircea_popescu: kinda what the whole thing is all about ; moat made of earned knowledge and so on.
asciilifeform: for the l0gz
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: can you get a quick photo of these ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> nice. << New drive cases transfer substantially more heat, have much more mass, surface area, etc
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 20:01 mod6: holy shit, they packed a cookie in there after they opened the bag?
mod6: well, as soon as I get this report done.
mod6: I'll get to ya in like a week or so.
asciilifeform: diana_coman & mod6 will get brand new disks when they signal readiness for downtime
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not only in hand, but BingoBoingo is in there nao and we revived 2 units and nao doing lobbes's
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856864 <<< ahahaha! way to go. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( this is a property of ordinary li cells, the kind in chinesium wristwatch, or yer bios, rather than the lappy type )
mircea_popescu: exactly! i agree, this is the icon of the problem. lithium batteries, everywhere. precisely-so.
asciilifeform: these have their nominal voltage 4evah
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in asciilifeform's torture room , term is 'lithium battery'
mircea_popescu: "we are the premiere science and technology nothingatall in teh world!" "then how come the world series is always in fucking iowa"
mircea_popescu: so you know, "usa is the powerfulest thing ever" "reheheally" / "oh, #metoo matters" "where ?" and so on ad infinitum. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 19:19 phf: there's probably an upper bound of availability of thinking man's technology, kind of like strugatsky's "za milliard let do konca sveta". once you start hitting those limits suddenly "my baby is in hospitals these days" etc.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856857 << these limits are everywhere. "we deliver" "no you don't" / "restaurants exist" "no they don't : http://trilema.com/2017/fake-news-are-just-one-tail-of-the-failed-female-state/ " and so on. the world essentially consists of the ~assumptions~ of existence and function of a large crowd of morons who never test these. ☝︎
mod6: i don't know how the fuck they did that shit. my girl could do it blind
mod6: ye ole t9?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856839 <<< remember when all the chickies programmed their sms'en on 2 inch screens, 2.1 button presses per character on avg ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so yes, not entirely sad thought.
asciilifeform: i specifically ~like~ that microshit victim couldn't use it.
asciilifeform: the balcony thing is secondary
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sorta the main thrust behind asciilifeform's interest
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 19:04 asciilifeform: aside from sunlight, the other win from 'eink', mod6 , is that it draws 0 current when not drawing.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856831 << this is a very solid point. add to it that cuntoo won't support gnome, and suddenly you see it : rk draws 15miliAmps, screen draws an average of i dunno, .6. suddenly a 5kAh battery lasts... 5k hours. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( the korean thing is interesting in that they jacked up the current and thing refreshes fast enuff to play 'doom'... )
mod6: the spines on the palm leaves tho, ouch