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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: when you get to the dc, feel free to pull lobbes's drive from dulap ( label it ) and insert 1) first, diana_coman's 2) 30sec later, the new
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma meatspace for ~20min, should give you enuff time for leg
BingoBoingo: And finish this balcony coffee
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Have an eta on when to do the diana_coman switch?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: do you have one back in 'old blightey' ? or know of a place there where i oughta put one ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( ideally : on some ~continent~ that dun have one yet, imho )
asciilifeform: sooo if anybody ( mircea_popescu ? diana_coman ? ) knows of some place that 1) isn't complete shit 2) doesn't have a trb noad living there yet -- plox to write in.
asciilifeform: so presently i end up shelving the idea erry time it makes circle round my conveyor ☟︎
asciilifeform: trinque's asian noad seems to be well-behaved
asciilifeform: i've been thinking i oughta conjure up moar trb nodez, but erry time i sit down and look to do it, end up thinking 'why give money to heathen derps'. but on other hand it dun do much good to put 9000 nodes all in pizarro. but to which heathen can give moneys without retching..
BingoBoingo: It's also possible there's another trb node I haven't put my own eyes on running on a residential connection in this country
asciilifeform: ( i have dynamic here also, for some reason local fuckheads want 2x the dough to make static. but it changes 1-2x / year, thus far i live with it )
BingoBoingo: It doesn't appear to be at the moment, but it could have been
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in trb observatory, http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/trb/10_2_moar_ProcessBlock.txt << caught up..
BingoBoingo curious if gabriel ever got that amputation
BingoBoingo: And now terry in in Valhala for it
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i suppose that's 1 way to 'saint' -- skipping straight to face to face with odin..
BingoBoingo: Terry didn't let his daughter's feelz get in the way of his cause ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Well, Uncle Terry is the Saint everyone thought Linus was
asciilifeform: at least terry davis was straightforward about not having iron drivers.
BingoBoingo: It ran openbsd fine, runs a linux fine now, FreeBSD was flakey last time I tried it on this one
trinque: huh, I ran one of the early x86 Be versions for a bit, didn't hate.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i strongly suspect that a box that smoothly runs the haiku thing will also run freebsd..
asciilifeform: wasn't an invitation to try it, lol. but statement of phakt.
BingoBoingo: Never tried it myself
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: even win10 loox pretty good when laid next to shituntu.
BingoBoingo: This piece of weird with all of its flaws... still works better than Ubuntu
BingoBoingo: Well, it isn't novelty for the sake of novelty. Novelty for the sake of highlighting how broken Ubuntu is.
asciilifeform: seems like there's even 1990s liquishit from the original 'beos' in there.
asciilifeform: ( and on top of this imported the worst gnarl from freebsd... )
asciilifeform: possibly i find novelty 'for sake of novelty' to not be auto-attractive; but imho these folx took the same baccilae that made microshit what it is ( cpp kernel, kernelized gui, 'desktopization' ) and somehow supposed that it'd add up to different result than microshit's..
asciilifeform: the q is, what is gained thereby
asciilifeform: spreading worx pretty easily when you lift all of the iron-specific C hairballs from existing open sores
BingoBoingo: The big difference between Haiku and ReactOS is in Haiku spreading works (TM)(R). Reactos hasn't made it that far yet.
asciilifeform: reminds me of 'reactos' ( another oddball 'man alone' item; believe or not : attempt to open sores re-create... winblowz )
asciilifeform: i'd stick a kernel that dun crash on these..
BingoBoingo: Or throw on a video playing box
BingoBoingo: Sure. Its the sort of thing you'd stick in a lobby to let people check the weather.
BingoBoingo: Well, the microkernel thing is different
asciilifeform: so in effect it's freebsd but with an oddball incompatible thing in place of x11
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: loox like they lifted various drivers from freebsd, since i last saw
deedbot: http://bingology.net/2018/10/02/haiku-r1beta1-thoughts/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog - Haiku R1/beta1 Thoughts
ben_vulpes: the many sleepless nights of the rural amphet didn't help.
ben_vulpes: sad fate to be remembered for failing to take out agents of the imperium given ~unlimited time and inclination to prepare. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: poor idjit. could've set up proper dynamite, not as if he could sizzle in electric chair twice.
ben_vulpes: http://archive.fo/WeQ7Q << ruralia continues to deliver lulz: "booby trapped wheelchair", "hot tub attached to tripwire" "elder abuse"
diana_coman: the eucrypt keccak implementation uses an out parameter for output and so it will fill whatever the caller provides
diana_coman: asciilifeform, int8 is indeed meant to be on 8 bits so no idea what that thing there is ; fwiw I added it to my comment on the article with ref to your q here in the logs too because I'm puzzled by it too
asciilifeform: diana_coman: can you clarify re the 'int8' thing plox ?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 18:53 diana_coman: asciilifeform, keccak can spit out as many or as few bits as you want it to, not sure what is you q there re keccak
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-02#1857438 << ok i wasn't sure whether diana_coman's keccak knew how to output arbitrary bitness. but my other point was that a 32bit hash may as well be crc32, there can be no notion of collision resistance when yer output is 32b. ☝︎
diana_coman: http://trilema.com/2018/euloras-communication-protocol-restated/#comment-126805 - waiting in the queue
a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 18:17 mircea_popescu: ok. 1 and 6 we ignore, as they're trivial for our exercise.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-02#1857391 -> lol, they are also just... not prime ☝︎
diana_coman: specifically, bit-level version gives bit-level precision so one can ask for as many bits as they want; workhorse byte-level keccak implementation works at byte-level so it will spit out as many *bytes* as you ask for (see http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/02/08/eucrypt-chapter-9-byte-order-and-bit-disorder-in-keccak/#selection-193.1-197.51 )
diana_coman: asciilifeform, keccak can spit out as many or as few bits as you want it to, not sure what is you q there re keccak ☟︎
asciilifeform bbl,meat; will come back to this item
asciilifeform: i dun get how 'int8 (equal to 18364757930599072545' worx
mircea_popescu: anyways, i shall now torture girls @ beach. will read all comments and everything tonite.
asciilifeform: 'text, consisting of int32 (keccak hash of top level itemxviii)' << i assume ditto
asciilifeform reads the other moving parts...
mircea_popescu: but yes, i am seriousl;y considering this.
asciilifeform: aaah so not asked to be resistant, aite
mircea_popescu: but this'd be a collision inside an encrypted packet.
asciilifeform: does diana_coman's keccak do this ? ( aside from the q of what does a 32bit hash output win, it aint exactly hard to collide into a desired 32bit regardless of how you make hash algo.. )
mircea_popescu: by setting it to spit out 4 byte output ?
asciilifeform: 'n*(4*int64 + int32) (32 bytes each key followed by a 4 byte ID calculated as the keccak hash of the key itself)' << unless i misread, how does one get a 4byte output from keccak ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo doh. let's check back with the aghast lonely hearts club when we're discussing how business can keep slaves (ie, them) if they feel like it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is the 20 may date intentional ?
BingoBoingo: s, that was in response to me pointing to that as a precedent for LGBT rights, but I’m not sure that makes it better. I’m just aghast. How can I make him see how wrong he is?"
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile from other mines: "I’m active in supporting LGBT causes. My boyfriend recently said that “this whole LGBT thing has gone way too far” and that he’s no longer sure what to think about same-sex marriage, even though he had thought he supported it. Worse, he said that maybe the original civil rights movement went too far, and perhaps businesses should be allowed to racially discriminate if they want to. In fairnes ☟︎
BingoBoingo: And yet 100% of them are only 19 once
mircea_popescu: the 1 in 6 far exceeds the 1 in 20 or so females worth the fucking in ~anyone's estimation.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/10/university-of-brighton-takes-ambiguous-position-on-program-supporting-coed-to-gentlemen-connections/ << Qntra - University Of Brighton Takes Ambiguous Position On Program Supporting Coed To Gentlemen Connections
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2018/euloras-communication-protocol-restated/ << republished to significant change ; diana_coman Mocky asciilifeform an' whoever else may be interested. comments welcome!
nicoleci: yeah thanks, Master. privilege in knowledge, torture in a chromebook
BingoBoingo: Ah, slave priviledge in action. Countless ninjashoguns weep as the combination of right behavior and right parts allows the priviledged to learn in hallowed logs.
mircea_popescu: some clever bits of math permit one to encrypt a message with the use of that 221 so that only he who knows 13 * 17 =221 can ever get it back out.
mircea_popescu: this is especially true the larger the prime numbers become. rsa uses this disparity to produce an undefeatable encryptio scheme. the two prime factors (13, 17) are the private (ie, secret) key. their product (221) is the public key.
mircea_popescu: right. this is then the rsa problem : it is relatively easy to multiply prime numbers ; it is exceedingly difficult to get them back out of the multiplicated soup
mircea_popescu: can you tell me what's 13 * 17 ?
mircea_popescu: now, can you tell me the non-trivial prime factors of 221 ? (but without looking anywhere online).
mircea_popescu: ok. 1 and 6 we ignore, as they're trivial for our exercise. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: alright. can you tell me the prime factors of the number 6 ?
mircea_popescu: nicoleci rsa keys are useless when the key is short. do you understand how rsa works ?
a111: Logged on 2018-09-28 16:21 asciilifeform: and i'ma never recommend to anyone the use of heathen 'rsa chips'. not even because they all, without exception, work with only 'toy' key lengths, but because srsly wtf.
nicoleci: im not going to make excuses for not connecting the pigeon talk, but no fucking clue what http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-28#1855365 means ☝︎
asciilifeform: same place where they have the bed the wrights slept in, the shitter they shat in, etc
mircea_popescu: chick's injun, they got their own schools.
asciilifeform: ( my local ww1 aviation museum has entire glass case of stuffed 'famous' carrier pigeons. so they defo know about'em in usa... )
mircea_popescu: she didn't go to kindergarten.
asciilifeform: i thought pigeon were universal.
asciilifeform: lol i wouldn't have guessed that it'd be ~that~ line..
mircea_popescu: meanwhile @birdcage, "<nicoleci> im getting so frusterated with these logs <mircea_popescu> yssat ? <nicoleci> i understand every 45th line"
asciilifeform: ~pigeons~ manually transported, nicoleci
asciilifeform: 'Asciilifeform would never recommend the use of 'rsa chips' as they work with only 'toy' key lengths, work in one direction, and have to be manually transported' << agh what
deedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=38 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR Log Summary - 9/28/2018
asciilifeform: lobbes: plox to confirm when satisfied that your rk worx correctly ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i was going to ask for a traceroute
mircea_popescu: * Trying 51.15.42.105... Connection timed out