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mircea_popescu: there's a difference between an inconvenient dichotomy (a purely political notion) and a false dichotomy, just like there's a difference between a painful triangle lodged up your ass and an escherian construction that may only exist on paper.
mircea_popescu: is there a third alternative ? are the two lobes really the same thing ? what makes it false ?
mircea_popescu: this is a category, the false dichotomy. it's defined, an actual thing. you know, if you say this is an apple and i ask how's it an apple you show it matches the salient parts of the definition.
Framedragger: it's just a simple xor.
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-09#1623585 << i humbly think there is a bit of a false dichotomy happening here (first approximation of what "here" is could be, "mircea_popescu's head.") either X is doing useful work for tmsr, or X is necessarily wasting time doing whatever-X-but-not-tmsr'y things (including "having dayjob(s)", "large side-project", etc.) ☝︎
asciilifeform: i can only suppose that the last plunger mircea_popescu used, was a bit too thin
asciilifeform: 'The disclosures “equip our adversaries with tools and information to do us harm,” said Ryan Trapani, a spokesman for the C.I.A. He added that the C.I.A. is legally prohibited from spying on individuals in the United States and “does not do so.”'
mircea_popescu: onlooker get a proper client and stop with the join/part lest you get banned.
asciilifeform: in other noose, somebody's selling a crate of old usgtrons containing 'clipper chip' on shitbay, lel
mircea_popescu: i imagine he's now going to spend a pleasant half hour seing various alphanumeric strings on assorted parts.
asciilifeform: she has a box that wwwiates, and not much else . (mostly lives in paper.)
asciilifeform: which is imho a point
mircea_popescu: and in other "what not to do with a girl", http://68.media.tumblr.com/ccaee0a5a25aaede56a797d0df81065a/tumblr_off2dl0sU11vfo18mo1_500.gif
asciilifeform: aha, there is a variant where turning right gets you a wife
mircea_popescu: pretty sure that's also a romanian tale. something with valley of eternal life and the maidens thereof ?
mircea_popescu: which in turn is driven by -- the fact that you're capable to abstractly form criteria is not useful if those criteria exclude "the whole world", because well, by definition that's not a criteria ; and if this situation is passible of occuring, you're in the meta-unfortunate position where you lack the outside authority that may challenge the parts where your abstracted criteria are actually misstated.
mircea_popescu: because that's entirely what sadness is : the perception of the impossibility of a criteria, formed on the basis of extended periods of absent criteria.
mircea_popescu: in short : there's no shortage of distractions, and sorting through them requires a criteria, which is fundamentally incompatible with sadness.
mircea_popescu: socially inept males aren't born socially inept, nor do they build their ineptitude in a day.
mircea_popescu: not to mention, it wouldn't be the first time. you understand this ? most tried things, in a widening fan, a la alf's own nsa attempt.
asciilifeform: ( for instance, this http://www.loper-os.org/?p=702 ultimately pointless lens grinding, ate most of a year!! )
mircea_popescu: which is the mirror statement of this -- peasants can be kept packing mud in the buff by a round table. 40 knights aren't 4, which aren't 2 etcetera.
asciilifeform: (i have some notion of what ought ~not~ to go on the table. but 'omit liquishit' does not get you a champion cook title )
asciilifeform: but i'd be the last to know what ought to go on such a table.
mircea_popescu: some can sometimes be seduced, evidently, but it's a very iffy proposition.
asciilifeform: (they ~might~ come to a pre-set table, as mircea_popescu to bitcoin. ~might~)
asciilifeform: i even suspect that the ~truly~ capable have formed lethal allergy to entire notion of programming a comp
mircea_popescu: so trb-ing is a huge anti-impedancer for everyone who could be working on it.
mircea_popescu: that's a large part of the true problem, i suspect -- people who are truly capable are VERY used to labouring in solitude, becauyse hey, ever since about 6 they encountered the unleashed idiocy of world and formed bad habits.
mircea_popescu: the syren song of "oh, how wasteful" is always the side a of a record that goes the same old droning rooseveltism.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-07 17:30 mircea_popescu: this has been a honest-to-god real-time davout node emerging in march going "so guyse... chatlog-block-419333 is highest rite ?" and resyncs ensued.
asciilifeform: i oughta be quite specific re : 'nobody wants'. say i write a trbi, along one of the described schemes. nao wat -- mircea_popescu mines it ? and after this, who will want it ? 'just another premined alt!111' etc.
mircea_popescu: the "at some point the idiots pulling on the tablecloth will rip it, and the a) here's a replacement is way better than the b) i guess we should think of replacement" ?
mircea_popescu: nao not much. we have between us a literal raft of problems with tentative statement and tentative possible solutions.
mircea_popescu: i may dare say the same, especially in the evenings after a cognac or two.
mircea_popescu: i'm a low information fucking voter, bitcoin is a) unreadable and b) a humongous uncomprehended problem anyway!
mircea_popescu: free fucking will, suppose you go to a mall where they blindfold you and take your credit card.
asciilifeform: i dun see a 'third' here
asciilifeform: alternatively catch people and trap'em in a cellar and make'em work..
mircea_popescu: anyway, to come back to it : there's a particular vacuum occuring in bitcoin, 2016-2017 so far, whereby the technically competent are relatively improductive, and the inept, instead of standing to attention before them, are stuck producing the inane bs they produce
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i expect it;s some flimsy attempt to attention whore through keyword stuffing by some inept cunt in california, who has a lot of college debt and utterly no skills to speak of.
asciilifeform: so sometimes -- microscope is a hammer, why not.
mircea_popescu: but i'm not about to burn regency furniture for heat, and i'm not about to set girls that can go out and talk to people in front of a computer to ada.
mircea_popescu: i'm not going to squeeze the world through the eye of a needle because i'm so infatuated with conceptual beauty that i can't resist. i can resist jus' fine.
mircea_popescu: understand, i was mp before bitcoin was invented. i will be mp after it crashes and burns. tis not a need, for me.
asciilifeform: well if mircea_popescu's statement is to be taken literally, 'one ox is worth 50 ducks', seems like if you need ducks for something, it'd be a trade you could make.
mircea_popescu: anyway. not all good things are for that goodness necessarily permitted to exist. maybe humanity is altogether too dumb to have a bitcoin. i guess in time we'll definitely find out.
mircea_popescu: i'm not about to turn an ox into a duck. and to be very clear, one obedient gurl is worth about fifty or so exceptional programmers.
mircea_popescu: 99.9x% of everything is done by people who have been here since founding. tis a little worrysome.
mircea_popescu: truth be told, we have a very serious problem getting new people to actually get head out of ass do something useful.
mircea_popescu: there's a lot of unsexy, actually needed work.
asciilifeform: paradoxically a trb-i is light years easier than 'cleaned trb' ☟︎
mircea_popescu: point fucking being, technologically we're what, 10 years away from actually having a worthy replacement ? at the present rate, at least.
asciilifeform: ( at any rate, this'd be the first time a supposed unpreparedness of opponent, kept somebody from firing 1st shot )
asciilifeform: iirc both were 'we'll mine a >1MB block ANY DAY NAO'
mircea_popescu: after the horrific failure of the "voting" bs last time around, most nobody gives a shit.
asciilifeform: implement a stream cipher instead of the DES algorithm.'
asciilifeform: 'The PX-1000 is a device capable of transmitting encrypted text messages over telephone lines. We show that the original version that was produced by TextLite implements the DES algorithm correctly. In 1983, when Philips USFA distributed this device as the PX- 1000Cr, the NSA made a deal with Philips USFA to implement an alternative algorithm. For this alternative version we show that it does
ben_vulpes: ironclad dood wrote the thing in college and then got a job?
a111: Logged on 2017-02-19 15:51 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-20#1507131 << in related news, gbyers, the original systems guru of ccl, who responded to every "modernization" attempt with "sure, if you can explain me what's the point" stepped down. within a day, clozure cl was moved to github, with current list of "issues" https://github.com/Clozure/ccl/issues. in case anyone was wondering "what happens when linus steps down"
phf: it all sort of ties together somehow. and yes, as trinque said, starts with a particular face
ben_vulpes: fuckin waste of a temple
asciilifeform: all of this is quite the lulzfest to asciilifeform : none of it existed a few yrs ago when i last looked
phf: last post from "symbolics lisp engineer": I've decided to participate in ProcJam 2016 this year. For a change of pace, I'm building a small roguelike in Clojure with a Unity3D front-end.
phf: i was on a channel with that character, until the s/r got so low, i had to leave. amongst the things he did, put in a chip backwards "it dun work", rebuilt power supply by sending it to "we rebuilt power supplies" company that did it for $900 for him
trinque: they have a particular face, don't they
trinque: I guess it's the next step up from "no, I only type on a mechanical typewriter"
phf: guy is an idiot and a butt of many jokes. exactly that, wealthy aspy cto buys expensive toy, proceedes to make a full of himself
a111: Logged on 2014-08-30 21:23 asciilifeform: i later learned that v. n. chelomei (famous soviet rocket designer) proposed the placement of atomic bombs near u.s. east costs using a scheme much like this. (official story - it was vetoed as barbaric)
asciilifeform: time must flow a little faster on mircea_popescu's planet.
asciilifeform: BUT i do have the chip, bought for some bux, from the old days of giving a shit, and so offer it to phf et al.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i did describe earlier, having concluded a few yrs ago that it is cheaper, easier, moar pleasant, to cut appart 'snap4' emulator (i have a pc build here ~with debug symbols~, comes apart in ida nicely) than to suffer with nitric acid and electron microscope ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know the need to cut apart the hardware of a 50yo defunct company strikes me as batshit insane
asciilifeform: well, https://symbolics.lisp.engineer/goals appears to be a list of what d00d aims to do with the thing, and typical example is 'port classic games to it', more or less 0 to do with reversing the thing
asciilifeform: ( interesting and at the same time depressing www. 'aesthete weenie' got hold of a lispm! )
asciilifeform: though i wonder if optical microscope will be worth a damn in this case : iirc smbx cpu was 'gate array', an early form of fpga based on mask rom
mircea_popescu: but i'm sure this isn't in any sense manual ; just a very relevant site. notwithstanding no content and no links. ALGORITHMS!!!
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 14:32 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623154 << phf do you presently have with what to make die shot ? i do have a dead xl1201 cpu board here.
mircea_popescu: are you a pisenlit par la racine, to use the french expression ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623209 << this is probably the most cogent underwire in the whole thing. you are the 21 yo with a car in the rural higschool yard. they feel a deep burning inside, and the only prescription is peniform and attached to your crotch. ☝︎
shinohai: Do they have a "mes de autos" ?
mircea_popescu: well, evidently "white man" has been making a habit of taking longest blind paths.
mircea_popescu: the definition of "white man" can NOT be that your six or twelve year old is outcompeted in a field by unwhite unman's offspring.
mircea_popescu: preferably in the hollowed out remains of a bank. after burning down the police station.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for educational thread -- let's take ben_vulpes , he likes children, where ought he to put a dozen ?
mircea_popescu: all human cervixes could spit out a dozen.
asciilifeform: so, worx great in afghan, where they make a dozen
mircea_popescu: it all starts when mothers wanting their kid to stop shitting himself prefer, rather than strangle one pour encourager les autres, to i dunno, give him a cookie every time he shat in the designated pot. prepubescent prostitution would have been a healthier habit, and more productive for the wee tyke ; but women are stupid in the sense of exactly this myopia.
asciilifeform: apparently thinking in finite terms (=~ 'confront his death' !11) is a bit much cpu load for most folx
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/tings-with-a-tang/ << Trilema - Tings with a tang.
mircea_popescu: hojo sanemasa does not want this to have been in vain. because, if for no other reason, such as pride, vanity, or social consensus, because he only has a finite count of these. they must be employed efficaciously. what now ?
mircea_popescu: now... wouldn't you wish to be their sultan ? because perhaps you've not read enough levy strauss & co to know about the function of the scapegoat in primitive societies. they certainly wouldn't mind BELIEVING that you do have infinite wealth. because they need someone for that role. and have. for a long time.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, the sultan of 1001 nights is a guy with infinite wealth ; that is his form, and his function. and the stories about how the virgin got a lot for less than her life are the life and blood of village life. hope, i suppose, after a (very oricsh) fashion.
mircea_popescu: so the satrap of fuckistan got paid a gold coin and a golden caftan worth anothjer gold coin, and counted himself happy. whereas the daymio's men couldn't be paid anything upon the kamikaze, and so the4y rebelled.
mircea_popescu: the traditional caliphate, incidentally, exists as a memory today (ie, a cultural mark) and existed historically (ie, as a civilisation) principally, and i do mean that, ~principally~ because an early fellow invented the superb literary device of giving people in payment not just actual value, but caftans! strips of cloth written on! that then they can value to whatever arbitrary value they wish, to offset the absurd valuatio
mircea_popescu: that they're more than willing to hallucinate it in fiction does not of course preclude the actual people stuck with the job of management among the monkeys inventing what best could serve as a palliative.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 15:02 phf: unless you're an mp, you don't have a choice to tell fuck you to local fauna, and the whole "i can pay whatever" only plays it out well in shitty miami based tv shows
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623205 << actually, it's a mainstay of oriental fiction, from harun al rashid to pick-your-nawab. the fundamental unsustainability of traditional economies is evident to the economically aware anthropologist, for instance in the fact that the whole echafaudage ends up requiring an underpinning of "infinite wealth" in the literal sense. very much the oriental equivalent of aristotle's fixed p ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 14:50 asciilifeform: as i picture it, a, e.g., mircea_popescu , would apply the only known pill: to create a kind of miniature british raj, where the locals know the consequences of misbehaviour
mircea_popescu: "advertising", not mechanical engineer. because bridges actually collapse whereas all "campaigns" can be "a success" even with <10% ROI