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Framedragger: Reuel: just fyi, and it's only my humble opinion, but you don't need the context of the whole trb to do the symlink experiment. from what i took of it, it's a matter of testing how various filesystems (probably starting off with ext4) can manage with (very) large numbers of nodes and large numbers of links to nodes. how seek times increase with those numbers of links to links, etc. (as an fs overhead, on top of hdd/sdd).
Reuel: Yeah, but being profitable is not what I look for in a game per se
Reuel: well I only did some minor tasks and didnt play again
Reuel: So I'll dedicate it to the republic
Reuel: So I'll be going full lurk mode, except for maybe some feminine replies on Trilema, but let me at least leave a little something
Reuel: vThe reason I keep buzzing around this place is that I get these pangs of inspiration when I visit, which is weird but great
Reuel: There are 1001 questions I would want to ask here, but I'm starting to feel like a net taker which is a wretched feeling
Reuel: I also hold some items in eulora which I should give back if you are on
Reuel: however life is getting in the way at the moment, and I don't have time to go through all the TRB code, which is probably a must to understand the context of the experiment
Reuel: mircea_popescu, I would love to do the experiment you talked about -> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-29#1609441 ☝︎
Reuel: I wanted to contribute, and it irks me to admit, but I don't think there is anything meaningful I can contribute at this moment
asciilifeform: incidentally there is supposed to have been a mr.t ralley in dc today, but i found 0 mention of it on the net, 0 photos, etc.
asciilifeform: i'll point out that mr.t signed off on the 8yo corpse
mircea_popescu: i dunno what we're discussing now, but anyway. original point was re bahamas being a murderer liar etc.
asciilifeform: i got passport right here, pg. 7 says: 'under some circumstances, you may lose your u.s. citizenship...'
asciilifeform: actually i have nfi if d00d was ever formally drummed out of usa citizenship
asciilifeform: lel, 'i am not a crook!1111' (tm) (r)
ben_vulpes: eh i'd rather invest in dirt
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03247/assets_3247927b.jpg
pete_dushenski: i thought you had the rotation covered ?
ben_vulpes: i have no idea what you're getting at by pointing out that cash outperformed everything (incl. vg index funds, duh?) plus that index gains occur on a limited number of days
pete_dushenski: i like to remind anyone tempted to buy etfs "for safety" that cash outperformed every vanguard offering in 2007. lest we forget that ~half~ of the returns of us stocks during the last fifty years were dictated by only ten days.
pete_dushenski: anyways, i have no love lost for etfs even if their fees are lower than mutual funds of yesteryear. they're still a hodgepodge of thinly distributed garbage. i don't know anyone who seriously reaps a return from them.
asciilifeform: ( though i have never, myself, been to this paradise, and the only artifact i know of from it is via pure rumour, the marvelous orichalcum-powered golden dildoes )
asciilifeform: aha! i tried to dig up the thread, so far failed
asciilifeform: i tried permabanning everybody-symptomatic-of-prbism
mircea_popescu: i crush the bee, shopkeeper, woman, etcetera.
mircea_popescu: it seems to me, that if i make a request of anyone and anything - a woman, a shopkeeper, a dog, a bee, and that request is not satisfied,
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it asked, and asked, and asked, as far as i can tell, a great many peers
ben_vulpes: one of the things i took away from the past week of mega logs is that blockchains may have finite lifespans
asciilifeform: from mempool operator to tx author -> 'oh here, take your dump, i PROMISE!111 i won't just throw it into the toilet'
asciilifeform: in the direction of tx-author -> mempool : 'here, i'ma take a dump, and YOU verify and store it'
ben_vulpes: roll i mean, not ask
ben_vulpes: subject of trbi, did i miss a way for a parent to cancel a cask ask shy of fibbing?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually i have nfi how many
asciilifeform: this is why i don't think much of auto-rotation
asciilifeform: incidentally, ben_vulpes , if mircea_popescu had ANY kind of reasonable log rotation in his node -- i would have had nothing to work with !
asciilifeform: (and with , i picture, much better detail than stock trb's log )
ben_vulpes: aight, aight, i forget that i'm the only person using svlogd
asciilifeform: but i will leave this to other folx for nao
asciilifeform: what the thing really needs is 'indicator lamp', i.e. a field in getstatus that shows last event that happened on each wire.
asciilifeform: (i was unable to think of any reasonable way around this. if you silence the whine, you will never know that your wire peers dropped.)
ben_vulpes: i don't have a master in place yet, but i am also willing to extend wire peerings to my l1
ben_vulpes: hey hey! i've got a node wired up to dulap.
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-04#1621939 << I am not sure this would happen, you would still have to verify the blocks - unless you have absolutely no connection to anybody else, in which case you would be equally stuck under current conditions ☝︎
mrottenkolber: I know, I know, people are not REPLs
mrottenkolber: right, I'm a dick
mrottenkolber: so I'm curious, where do you guys stand politically?
asciilifeform: (i don't recall seeing a 'ru mega-hack accusation ... no evidence' in the beobachter.
asciilifeform: because - i dare say - they ain't nodes
asciilifeform: you see exactly what i described -- your node asks, and asks, and asks peers for it
mircea_popescu: it's about my own conclusion. i'd say it belies the need for some fixing.
asciilifeform: 'recently' is a poor choice of word, i cannot say exactly when.
asciilifeform: but interestingly, quite recently was able to reconnect to the 'first connected to' node, the idiocy i described yesterday, and sync just a bit.
asciilifeform: i have nfi in what shithole today anyone likes the americans.
phf: in related lulz i got a lot of "soviet union was a good thing" from conversations with indians. a lot of older indians seem to hate americans and miss the good old "bhai bhai" days
phf: what i'm trying to say is "hindi rusi bhai bhai" :p
phf: also i can't really go back to the cave. it's the time to buy gifts, and pack shit up.
phf: that's what i figured
phf: i'm mostly reacting to "things missing" bit. i otherwise would like to remain ignorant of going ons in the world, until i'm forced into interracting with it again in a few days
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-03#1621563 << i believe it's because it's called asciilifeform_and_now_we_have_block_dumper_corrected. (http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=stable&search=dump) ☝︎
asciilifeform: i'll be around for most of tomorrow yea
mircea_popescu: i mean night.
mircea_popescu: and otherwise, i bid all a very good thight
mircea_popescu: now then ; the reason i even looked at this node is that i was going through a list of potential candidates to put in the new asciilifeform ssh thing.
asciilifeform: i did not say that it ought to request by height at all times.
mircea_popescu: very technically ; i don't think it too likely.
mircea_popescu: i do not believe node lost connectivity for as long as five total minutes, let alone straight minutes ; this however is a very iffy point to prove because hey, ~connectivity~.
mircea_popescu: i didn't know males could do that.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: meanwhile i solved it with anal telekinesis !!111
asciilifeform: and i'll repeat, tardoshi offered NO way to request blocks BY HEIGHT !!
asciilifeform: and yeah this ought not to be necessary. but i suspect that it -- is.
asciilifeform: at this point i will recommend that -- when everyone has satisfied himself that 'wires' work -- every trb node oughta be wired to at least 1 known trb node
asciilifeform: i'll add that 'week' is merely a guess, from my arse; perhaps a couple of hours is enough, under the right circumstances ( idiot peers + sufficiently many blocks made in interval )
asciilifeform: tardoshi had a motherfucking SPECIAL CASE for 'i'm a new node'
asciilifeform: btw i am now nearly certain re what happened to mircea_popescu's box
asciilifeform: this routine is inherited from tardoshi btw, i did not invent it.
asciilifeform: it is also why i did not give bastardry a ban score !
asciilifeform: btw mircea_popescu et al , is it obvious how http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=makefiles#1364 works ? or do i need to explain
mircea_popescu: yeah. then i can't conceive. it did complain thousands of times of orphans, which implicitly resulted in block being sought.
mircea_popescu: yeah. and since you mention it, trb-i definitely needs a clarified push-or-pull model because the current system is the soul of unconsidered adhocery
mircea_popescu: i did turn off the node to be able to push out meaningful bdb item think about it.
shinohai: Whatever the outcome of the node wedge fix is, I need to write all this down as it may be a powerful tool to fuck with enemy in the future.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, i'll complain to you, because really there's no need trb logging be THIS RETARDED
asciilifeform: but if i did - it could, yes
asciilifeform: i don't keep any boxes on mars, that i can only check every 9 mo
asciilifeform: ( i lean to the latter hypothesis , it is a thing that regularly happened - admittedly not to the extent seen in mircea_popescu's specimen -- among my nodes, and was why i could no longer put off the 'wires' thing )
mircea_popescu: i guess i'm just going to publish the log altogehter ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, i plan to restart it sometime tomorrow, if anyone wants further datas it's a fine time to say.
mircea_popescu: it's not exactly a common condition, this ; which is both why i said something and why it wasn't noticed. simply no test for ~this~ never seen before nonsense
ben_vulpes: doubtful that i would find it in the web interface, but possible in the blocks.
ben_vulpes: with the caveat that there is something funky with satoshi counts in this parser that i have yet to properly nail: http://cascadianhacker.com/2584.txt
ben_vulpes: is there a straightforward mapping of height to position in blk.dat i missed?
asciilifeform: well yes. hence why i said 'draw tree', i.e. list the blocks in form, e.g., b1->b2->{b2a1, b2b1->b2b2->b2b3} << in this example, b2a1 is orphanlet
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol it isn't as if i had 'go and do it or voodoo curse!1!'
mircea_popescu: dude why can't he do whatever it is he's doing lol ; i did publish the thing.
ben_vulpes: i'd be happy to send you any relevant bits, let me package up what i have for you
asciilifeform: i could really use one...
pete_dushenski: oh i got that, just not sure which block debugger you thought you remembered seeing and wherefrom
pete_dushenski: apparently i dun get it