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mircea_popescu: i can assure you from experience it is infinitely easier to teach any ~actual~ science to a slavegirl than to an intelligent girl.

asciilifeform: ( picture for a moment trying to sell a working airplane to cargocultists. 'what's petrol?' 'this thing is heavy' 'waitasec i have to learn to read?!' etc )

asciilifeform: who wants to attempt this sport -- i have posted the necessary ingredients above.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can picture the reward, but also the butthurt

asciilifeform: i'm a little surprised that nobody's walked away with his pile yet.

asciilifeform: i shit thee not, microshit used 8 instances of rc4, seeded by cpu time, process indices, and a little bit of misc liquishit

mircea_popescu: ie, i will fucking stomp them, so help me god.

asciilifeform: in other minor lulz, i reversed the EC_KEY_generate_key from satoshi's libeay32.dll (where he stuffed openssl)

mircea_popescu: phf i was vaguely considering sending a an infestor. something reasonable, 2/3 bedroom 2 bathroom proper kitchen ac etc. it does get terribly hot does it.

asciilifeform: to i-have-nfi-what

asciilifeform: as a boy (after moving to usa) i once visited a house of a sikh d00d whom father was working for . he had entire room, shrine.

phf: in this particular case, the differentiator was the subtle lean. i mean, the south they have a special perspective on the whole thing. i suspect many of their wealthy families have little shrines to godse

phf: i think it's still a significant time period for a lot of indians. possibly the last one.

asciilifeform: phf: i had almost identical experience with emigre right here in usa!

phf: well, the most ridiculous example, i befriended a doctor, initially by simply pointing out Nehru in a picture, then producing a few coherent sentences about partition of india period. was subsequently invited to dinner at his house, with family, etc.

phf: i think if you're ~entirely~ not mp, you're going to get raped anywhere. but if you're a little bit mp (which i think qualifies present people, otherwise none of us would be here, you yourself were trying to buy a projects building in a fucking baltimore), then i think you have better chance extracting value in india, than you do in americas. because bureaucracy runs deep here, need much more play money to sway it your way. there, you ~can~ get away with paying

asciilifeform: well that's what i am wondering, if you're entirely 'not mp', then should be prepared to pay orbital prices for 'white man' terraforming ? or this is overly pessimistic, and the local won't (why not?) charge you a kind of ad hoc 'laffer curve' maximum they think you can bear without going broke ?

phf: unless you're an mp, you don't have a choice to tell fuck you to local fauna, and the whole "i can pay whatever" only plays it out well in shitty miami based tv shows ☟︎

asciilifeform: phf: recall the thread with mircea_popescu re the traffic cops in some african shithole ? where millionaire 'i can pay whatever, fuck you' and the next day finds that the fines have grown six decimal places for him

phf: but i think the main source of rape is the government, rather then locals as such. can find pretty much anything for local prices, as long as you're in the right place asking the rightk inds of questions

phf: in fact my bed&briekfast guy is very much "an old dutch moves to an indian village": "license costs 300rs, but they found another irregularity so i have to pay 10'000rs fee" ☟︎

asciilifeform: as i picture it, a, e.g., mircea_popescu , would apply the only known pill: to create a kind of miniature british raj, where the locals know the consequences of misbehaviour ☟︎

asciilifeform: i.e. your generators will cost 10x what they do in usa, locals will make bank and laugh

asciilifeform: i'll admit, always wanted to live in india;

phf: roquefort is unobtanium. in fact there's a christian monastery that makes cheese somewhere in the north, european style. they make bank selling that stuff to hotels, etc. i was trying to sell some priests on the idea, but by the time i remember we were both utterly drunk, and the conversation devolved into calls for bloody revolution and such

asciilifeform: i'd imagine -- not.

phf: i don't think you can pay with money for the later

asciilifeform: but i gotta wonder what the total cost of 'living like white man' might be there.

a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 14:24 phf: looked at a mansion, where i lost count of rooms, has inner court yard and large forst area in the back, secluded, etc. advertised as $2000/mo, final price was $12000/yr (!!!)

phf: i did a bed&breakfast which is my preferred approach, the room was baseline 2200rs/night, for 35 days, with 20% discount, worked out to about $950

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623154 << phf do you presently have with what to make die shot ? i do have a dead xl1201 cpu board here. ☝︎☟︎

phf: this is all within 10 minute ride to the beach, 30 minute ride to the closest big city. not sure what the prices are like in the city, but i have a guy i can ask if you're interested

phf: looked at a mansion, where i lost count of rooms, has inner court yard and large forst area in the back, secluded, etc. advertised as $2000/mo, final price was $12000/yr (!!!) ☟︎

phf: what they would call "studio" in u.s., i.e. a room with a kitchen area goes for about $1000/yr

phf: i looked at places within 10 minute motorcycle ride from a tourist beach area

phf: cheap, and wot dependent. i can't figure out what the market forces are like, or possibly everything's really cheap, so there's no bottom.

phf: i think a half decent reason to get an xl1201 is to sacrifice an ivory and get die shots

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623101 << yes, and since i just burned a bunch of cash on a vacation, i won't be bidding on any of these machines, but dks is selling an xl1201 and two macivories ☝︎

asciilifeform: sha512 of the exe i linked earlier : fa8f822c8f0d86f419ef94ffe80bdbfd4966169f4d3becec8b5cd4bf693ad11c1c8f91d3cfb74664cfc910a326f4bc799613847cf56aa12c3ff6124121626b6e

mircea_popescu: i was gonna say, get the pre 1.0 ones

mircea_popescu: early on, yeah. i've no copies though.

asciilifeform: hm, now that i think of it, the question of 'against which openssl was it built' may be.. answerable. mircea_popescu : did satoshi ever distribute a binary ?

asciilifeform: i guess 'looker', not talker, huh.

asciilifeform: i would get it, if i had where to put.

asciilifeform: i lost more or less all interest in the physical machines after i got hold of the emulator.

trinque: first time I've seen one of those for sale.

asciilifeform: fwiw i run my boxes with verifyall.

trinque: indeed, I'm snipping and mapping for entirely that reason.

asciilifeform: but recall, i started by asking for 'the book' and for it to be as thin as reasonably possible (but not thinner..)

asciilifeform: i never cut the old ones out, but introduced flag 'verifyall'

trinque: stripping out of checkpoints. I'd done it here myself days ago before finding that you had already in 2016

mod6: <+trinque> http://btcbase.org/log/2015-02-05#1008972 << mod6, is that why this patch did not make it in? << i don't think it was because of any such wedge. i think we held off because it was proposed that there might have been a better way to handle that through configuration files. it's all in the logs if you look in around the time that email was sent; december of '14. ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( the last time i mentioned him on the air -- he actually showed up! in pm! to whine re how cruelly he is libelled, how he was Never A Stooge, etc. snoar. )

asciilifeform: shinohai: i still dun get why cia stooge needs a handle. can read the l0gz on www, like anybody

mircea_popescu: i don't see why it's such a big deal, i included all sorts of strange in the logs, what of it ?

trinque: I guess it wouldn't be the only "serious" gay men's club on earth.

asciilifeform: the funny bit is, that was when i formed picture of nsa as 'serious org'

asciilifeform: briefly upstack: as i once described, many years ago asciilifeform actually tried to sign up for nsa! was , unsurprisingly, turned down ( you get a ream of paper even if turned down! )

trinque: i.e. any manner of destructive nonsense, or cancer of the imagination

mircea_popescu: but otherwise, it's the same. i sent a bunch of girls on a bunch of missions this month, with various wads of cash.

mircea_popescu: the only difference between slavegirl in my household and usg employee is that a) i whip mine and b) after a while they are sensibly better at everything. the usg drones don't get whipped and don't improve.

asciilifeform: i suspect that , e.g., gavin's pay stubs, would entertain plenty.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha. the nsa itself long knew it is both a) deeply ineffectual and b) extremely loud. which is why now and again i say something to the effect of "wtf straw must one have in head to work for those dorks, move on already."

trinque: sec and I'll grab some logs

asciilifeform: but i'll be the first to admit that this heuristic is very much a 'blind man and the elephant'.

asciilifeform: thus far i suspect that 'leakage' is roughly proportional to a directorate's population of folx who know what is 'twerk'

asciilifeform: this rounds out today's lulzfest, i think.

asciilifeform: https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_4849785.html >> 'I strongly suggest that you name your missing vector for DanceFloor "Twerk". '

mircea_popescu: i see you're well entertained.

asciilifeform: lel, i was wrong re their 'gossipd', it was written, by unknown commercial contractor: https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/files/Fluxwire_manual-3.5.0.pdf << docs.

trinque: it may sadden those that don't yet know that open firmware was a dead simple forth nugget. i.e. in the sense that apple for a brief time meant dead simple.

Framedragger: i see - i'm behind on the internet of shit it seems

Framedragger: i thought huawei only made consumer shit? (not that that's reassuring...)

asciilifeform: various cisco rootkits, also, but these i regard as a snore

BingoBoingo: ty asciilifeform, figured I'd take big picture leaving opportunity for experts to fill in mined lulz with further submissions

asciilifeform: now how would i know.

davout: i really don't feel strongly about this, just thinking out loud

trinque: and if I wanted that I'd want to do it as a "mempool explorer" tool

mircea_popescu: i concur. "unconfirmed tx" is improperly thought of as a tx.

asciilifeform: and trinque has it : i've put up nodes that communicate outside the house ~only~ via eatblock

asciilifeform: i know of no reason why wallet would ever want to ~receive~ mempool tx

davout: see, i don't see how it could be done without designing another way for nodes to communicate in another way than the currently existing protocol

mircea_popescu: i suspect it's the simplest-possible, which still doesn't promise it's simpler than any arbitrary level.

mircea_popescu: you understand ? backfeed fucking computing, "if i do this this happens so you press thios button" sorta excel-dev.

davout: well, as i understand it the end result is a different set of binaries that talk together through a $to-be-defined queue mechanism

davout: so now, re your description, i'm not sure what a good start would be, because cutting it the way you described sounds like a mega-project that encompasses more than the mere wallet

davout: i thought trb was keeping them in ram already

mircea_popescu: i don't see the user has a leg to stand on, "i'm not sure which my addresses are". if you add some - there's a (minor) penalty.

davout: i don't see any fundamental problem with it

davout: mircea_popescu: i agree that the description made in the convo you linked is a very desirable target architecture

a111: Logged on 2017-01-03 20:51 davout: hrm, i'll have to re-read

davout: i did read actually, but seems it didn't really stick

davout: yeah, i will.

mircea_popescu: well, if you're not willing the read the jan 3rd discussion, i guess.

davout: so basically i thought it would be quite easy to cleanly decouple the wallet from the node, but i'm now stuck with the realization that for now the most workable option will simply be to make small improvements here and there

mircea_popescu: trb too, for now, i guess.

mircea_popescu: i also dun get 2. how's the fact you already have the index you need related to the fact prb fucks up output selection ?

mircea_popescu: i thought that was adequately resolved through layering.

mircea_popescu: that's the bit i was looking for.

asciilifeform: davout: likewise i have nfi why wallet split requires indexing ~all~ unspents. just index the ones the user specifies