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mircea_popescu: i suppose that's why they have that "excluding present company" device.
mircea_popescu: yeah, it's not lost on me that i'm the loudest preacher of continence in a cloister of monks muchly more restrained and disciplined than myself.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-10#1624188 << i built myself a 'games box' , not long ago, 'to unwind', but turned out that the part of my head that was able to enjoy this, had atrophied, found myself constantly 'if i'm this awake, oughta be running $experiment, finishing up $unfinisheds', etc. ended up giving the (princely) fuckofftron to brother to play with. ☝︎
Framedragger: i like my rc airplanes. "the will of history necessitates you to X" has a marx'ified hegelian vibe :p ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: well, anyway, i suppose it is a good thing the intelligent people involved could you know, pursue their own self-determined will and etcetera. who knows how many glorious flights of amateur rc airplanes this obviously reasonable arrangement gave the world!
mircea_popescu: ah i recall that, windows nt
asciilifeform: ( the sane folx, who had alphas with tru64, openvms, etc, went 'wtf why would i even think of winblowz' -- which wouldn't do. whole edifice 'musted die' )
asciilifeform: re alphas, i am rather fond of the alpha, i have several here, possibly mentioned before
mircea_popescu: yeah, i recall it wasn't ever actually deployed in any meaningful sense. ielbrus.
mircea_popescu: yeah it was ishitsomething, itembel, i dun recall.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 10:43 phf: i don't quite remember, what goes where, but i'm pretty sure the emulator.c that you linked is a frankenstein that primarily emulates alpha, though it has some signifcant knowledge about what the alpha emulator does, so it's not quite qemu, but something a lot scarrier
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-10#1624127 << the c src i linked to does not appear to match this description, seems to be honest emulator ☝︎
mircea_popescu: you totally gotta to eat more varied cunt, i can tell by your vowels your gyneceum's monocultural!
mircea_popescu: i said how come the men here suffer like they do ?
mircea_popescu: I was with ben_vulpes at dildo forge, knee deep in girl spunk
mircea_popescu: o shit did i actually get the verb righ for once ?
davout: i know i would
phf: i don't quite remember, what goes where, but i'm pretty sure the emulator.c that you linked is a frankenstein that primarily emulates alpha, though it has some signifcant knowledge about what the alpha emulator does, so it's not quite qemu, but something a lot scarrier ☟︎
phf: i've spent some time with it before, improving mac os support, and working out crash issues
trinque: in fact, I'll go ahead and get the logbot-service thing released now, since it's been running the wot & voicing for maybe a month now
lobbes: sure, but from what I can observe, your own deedbot (and others' log-o-trons) appear to operate in a more sane manner. I guess I'm just saying I have much to learn
trinque: cool, later in the thread I'm convinced the whole thing is reasonable
lobbes: I'm still in the process of climbing out of the primordial soup, so to speak. 'had to start somewhere, etc'; Though I realize I will need to flamethrow my own creations soon enough and rebuild once I 'evolve' a bit more. But all in due time
a111: Logged on 2017-03-09 18:23 trinque: I said to him "students may learn swordplay but may not tell us the fork in their hands is a sword"
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-09#1623875 << I agree and will admit that my bot and log-o-tron are/were largely forged from used dildos I found laying in the forest. I also don't pretend that they are anything but ☝︎
trinque: I'm sure they have a cloud API for that
a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 03:43 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i know a handful
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-10#1624042 << i don't mean, privately. i mean a public indian. ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'For a long while I was doing research in software productivity. We began asking, ‘What is wrong? And why is it so difficult? Why is it so costly? What is complexity?’ It led me to interesting research, but nothing happened. We did not discover how to formulate or mathematically express the idea of program complexity. Not program complexity in the sense of algorithmic complexity—NP-complete problems and all that jazz—but the
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: basically, and that's strictly it - because i couldn't intuitively wrap my head around the fact that average number of nodes per specific folder would be _really_ low if depth is say more than 3. still weird in my head, but yeah.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i don't get it, you graphed some functions ? or ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i know a handful ☟︎
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B38595546DF746890308952213DCBF7C001A148E9135B0D939C136F490B9A052 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1489...2027 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '147.102.194.35 (ssh-rsa key from 147.102.194.35 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (het25.physics.ntua.gr. GR I)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B38595546DF746890308952213DCBF7C001A148E9135B0D939C136F490B9A052 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1512...7289 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '147.102.194.35 (ssh-rsa key from 147.102.194.35 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (het25.physics.ntua.gr. GR I)
mircea_popescu: this is like the superlative of "what do i do now ?" "drink."
ben_vulpes: well how am i supposed to advise without being able to repro?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, tradeoffs. he wants to store the block in parts, he wants to store it whole, what can i say
diana_coman: needs to reimplement to get out on the other side really (I did NOT dig deep into Blender but I wouldn't be surprised if it were terribly bloated at the very least)
a111: Logged on 2017-03-09 18:14 mircea_popescu: meanwhile i ended up with a python dependency via blender ;/ i dun think it's going anywhere.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-09#1623846 <-- fwiw the only way I can see this dependency on Python going anywhere would be if someone makes a sane replacement basically - however, artists need it but won't do it and otherwise people who are able to do it have a huge list of *other* things that need to be done as far as I can see; moreover (and as usual already), the whole steaming pile is deep so I can't even say how much one ☝︎
Framedragger: also, """But I appear to have a lingering effect that seems to have started from the time my /tmp directory had the millions of files in it.
Framedragger: yeah, okay; as long as it's not fixed-width trb-i, no way around this.
Framedragger: hmh right, right. no way around it, i guess.
mircea_popescu: i'm sorry ?
Framedragger: (but maybe you covered that, too, and i forgot in logs.)
Framedragger: (and if you now say 'db is lost cause anyway' while not linking to code/config *again*, i'll grit teeth angrily)
shinohai: Actually lemme check one more thing before I do ......
Framedragger: but i do hope you're doing the former, i mean i assumed so. that's the lowest-hanging fruit re. 'how do i do batch writes to db'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i did go and sift through the docs, found 0 mention of write aggregation as an option
a111: Logged on 2017-02-26 19:27 mircea_popescu: the other problem is that a good db fix is a very large project, because bitcoin is written insanely. and our fs db isn't moving, last i heard a month ago someone was going to try and profile an extx
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aite, meanwhile i found the prev thread: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-26#1618705 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: you repeat halfway of the discussion, "here is what i said lalala i can't hear anyone"
asciilifeform: the more worrisome bit is that there is NO write aggregation (iirc i mentioned this before)
Framedragger: for a minute i thought (don't know why) that what is *additionally* needed is the capability to have paths of /symlinks/to/symlinks/.
Framedragger: oh wait, i phrased this incorrectly while at the same time horribly mis-reading: sorry, this is about max depth of path composed of symlinks.
mircea_popescu: something's amiss, im sure i have directories with more than 40 symlionks
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-22#1588180 << i won't have time in the nearest future, but for anyone who may be looking into symlinks, this may be useful: https://lwn.net/Articles/650786/ ☝︎
phf: (if nobody else steps up, i'm going to bring one up in a day or two) ☟︎
trinque: will do, I'll set up autossh in just a bit
trinque: I can see it.
mircea_popescu: at some point lytter i think it was decided the afghanis are befallen under russian spell and invaded.
ben_vulpes: not i
mircea_popescu: the 1800s british ones i mean.
ben_vulpes: oh i'm up
trinque: I said to him "students may learn swordplay but may not tell us the fork in their hands is a sword" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i have no clue how they escaped highschool, intellectually speaking. but here they be.
mircea_popescu: NO IDEA whatsoever of that most fundamental concept of analysis, which is to say "i can write chicken scribblings down and answer FOR A FACTY whether point q is equal to point p"
ben_vulpes: i have never understood what 'scripting language' was
asciilifeform: incidentally it is how i ended up with a python proggy (phuctor frontend)
a111: Logged on 2017-01-26 02:33 mircea_popescu: this wedge will not prevail. i'll do without any milk, forever.
mircea_popescu: yeah but i know of no alternate solution capable of taking blender items and spitting them into eulora.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, it does some exporting gnarl. diana_coman published a recipe, i can dig it up if you wish
mircea_popescu: meanwhile i ended up with a python dependency via blender ;/ i dun think it's going anywhere. ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf's 'this commonlisptron suxxx, i'ma use another' won't work in pythonistan.
ben_vulpes: well i miss the point then, try it like i'm five?
trinque: ben_vulpes: how the hell am I defending myself by using as many filthy whores as possible?
mircea_popescu: i am pretty confident this discussion would have occured with different examples.
trinque: I don't see that python or any of its kind have any future
asciilifeform: friend: 'i got you a book for your bday' -- chukcha: 'i already HAVE a book'
ben_vulpes: the other point i didn't get to make is that i dont' buy the 'personal failing' line; redundancy uber alles
Framedragger: trinque: the naked truth of it is, i have little experience with lisp, of which "shipped to production" amounts to zero. wanted a bot. wrote modules for sopelbot which turns out to be reliable enough. :)
ben_vulpes: i suspect a pythong?
mircea_popescu: i thought eg candy used your what's it called.
trinque: I took a shot at folks present for imitating me and spinning up their own bot rather than writing patches for the only bot in a V tree, but apparently it was buckshot
ben_vulpes: well now i've lost the frame
trinque: I thought you *had* used the thing
trinque: pfff I wrote and released one, and so far we've got one re-use of teh code
trinque: politics seeming to be a big driver of the evolution of human intelligence, I don't see how someone who says "but no, the arena is not for me" can be said intelligent.
phf: huh, i thought it's because you like to play turn based strategies, so the enemy timing is rarely an issue
mircea_popescu: phf i guess i'm impatient enough this difference does not flower in my case.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger for the record alf is wrong in the line you quote. he perceives things that way because he proceeds from nonsensical, outright impossible priors. "if i had a clear idea of what i was doing, i could do it in a week"
diana_coman: works, yes; I don't find anything against it
Framedragger: i, too, get confused re. demarcation lines of the two: on the one hand it's supposed to be battlefield against hitler, but on the other hand folks agree that it's also a good place to employ experimental stuff one always wanted to try, for doing things. and i agree with the latter. but then when that stuff stumbles on an issue (because it's fucking experimental), people get outraged.
mircea_popescu: alternatively i could simply declare all that vanity, and propose some people have more of a millstone to break to bits than others.
diana_coman: I suppose I would say that "because they are not sad enough" but rather quite fine
a111: Logged on 2017-03-09 01:56 asciilifeform: while we have this thread: i often come back in my head to the question of why folx visit, and then choose to go back to being-sad.
mircea_popescu: funny, i just an hour ago talked the matter through with a girl training her very first girls, and it turned out on examination that actually... we do.
phf: but i still feel like it was a "waste" in a sense that usually you don't apply same educational methods on battlefield as you do in a lyceum.
phf: i don't think it was a waste from the whole Man of Knowledge perspective. i derived a lot of value building one, which makes me think so did others when they built theirs.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-09 01:17 asciilifeform: paradoxically a trb-i is light years easier than 'cleaned trb'