asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: can't fathom wai you'd want it instead of rk, tho, unless want gigantic sata disk
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 256 ( i dun recall there ever being a 128 ? )
asciilifeform: maybe even a hero will stand up who opens a 3rd, even-cheaper rack. (i'll be surprised tho)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: for thread-completeness -- by my current reckoning, i can get away with charging <1/2 of what piz cost for colo ; so errybody who lived in piz, oughta be able , for same price, to keep ~2~ (or moar) boxen, e.g. 1 here and 1 in diana_coman's , or even 1 in ea. + barebone in heathendom.
asciilifeform: shelf is nominally 1u, but i'ma set it up under the slot holding the 6in-deep pdu , so effectively 2u of height avail. for what's on that shelf.
asciilifeform: there is to be (just nao uncrated it) a 36in shelf for 'nonrackable rackables'.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i actually have a pogo in stock, if you like just-for-you it can be plugged in.
asciilifeform: as far as i'm concerned , a box is a box, you can set it up how you like.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: does this require any peculiar magicks ?
asciilifeform: qntra is a mp-powered system, btw, so he may want to weigh in 1st re where plugged in.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo lemme know if you'd like similar for your qntra. ( and anyone else? plox to write in. )
asciilifeform uncrated just nao the ssd for diana_coman's rk, and the mount. it'll be the 1st box going in.
asciilifeform: ( iirc trinque uses a few internally in castle trinquestein )
asciilifeform: these, notably, run 'coreboot' and have probe jacks and thereby can have , optionally, kernel burned into bios .
asciilifeform: meanwhile in rackables : 2 'apu1' w/ 1tb 'samsung' in ea. ( asciilifeform-gentoo or other filling at customer's option ) will be standing up. and available to sit on.
asciilifeform took delivery of 1st batch of crates for cage build : slide shelf, pdu, switch, cabling, squarenuts, ssds, several other necessaries.
asciilifeform is setting up a thing where invid. inhabitants could even reserve % of pipe for exclusive use. can discuss cost if anyone seriously interested in such variant.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's rack is intended to at first house strictly l1 (+ l2 if approved by particular l1) folx. so i dun expect serious congestion of pipe, in near term.
asciilifeform: sorta is the point of colo -- to get ~exactly~ what you want, rather than crude approximation.
asciilifeform: incidentally, if anyone wants to live in asciilifeform's rack and to do so on custom iron, asciilifeform will assemble, for reasonable cost, such iron.
asciilifeform does not know whether smg has the provisions to operate ~simultaneous~ mirrors , but if does, may be good idea to sit in 2+ racks
asciilifeform: additionally , if smg would like to operate 1 or moar boxen here in asciilifeform's cage, i'ma happily service, either on transported iron, or on own stock, either worx .
asciilifeform: ( remember that if you're baking new ones, this also will take time. so entirely q for smg people, and the numbers could come out in either direction )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: per my notes, smg was gearing to purchase its inhabited irons (pending delivery of replacements) , this fell down when the rack fell down. i expect if it comes out as +ev , and estimate of time for transportation aint outrageous, mp may want to proceed with said purchase and grab the irons. worth to ask.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: usa has no 'import vat', 1 of the few pluses of sitting there, afaik.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: see what you can source locally ; compare .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this naturally depends on whether you're already doomed to import. but worth making the calculation.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: inquire w/ BingoBoingo re transport of irons. my understanding is that still cheaper (if slower) than to bake new.
asciilifeform recommends to diana_coman & other 'rack bakers' to invest in inexpensive 'coffin' transportable rack -- makes desk testing / transport of stacks of boxen rather less painful .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i intend to move some , but certainly not 100% , of own items, into this cage, aha
asciilifeform: diana_coman: how many racks are you getting ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the rack space is recurring cost, but feels considerably less 'bite' to asciilifeform when he tallied up what currently pays for sad hostings elsewhere
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'm beginning to suspect there are folx ~actually~ living in that 1 dc. ( or else wai is there exercise hall, showers... )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: filling a rack, asciilifeform-style, is entirely doable w/out megabux , it costs roughly like those old mercs mp buys. ( at least until one tried to buy ip... )
asciilifeform: mp's 'make it an engineered, not shamanic, product' crit is valid.
asciilifeform intends to properly document 'how to bake rack' . cut out the voodoo...
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'm a miser. but, cage is there, gotta fill. i expect there will be inhabitants.
asciilifeform is buyin' servers ! found new dealer, selling 'dulaps' .
asciilifeform: aim is, squarely, to 'price to sell'.
asciilifeform considered 'what if priced FG-style, as fixed constant in btc?' but this would prolly result in outrageous overprice that few would be willing to eat.
asciilifeform presently puzzling over where to get exchange rate for pricing; prolly will have to lift from BingoBoingo's auctions, for so long as they're happening with reasonable regularity .
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: can you make this happen by saturday ? would like to get diana_coman's rk standing up immediately when router, hoses, etc. emplaced.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: and perhaps if you end up with a full booth and lotsa irons, can even hire BingoBoingo .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'll help , to the extent this is possible across ocean.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it aint 'phd-grade' work, but will take a little learning.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: have you ever had occasion to run a rack before ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: likely mine will be the 1st to stand up for service, then. but imho really oughta have multiple people willing to do these, otherwise 'fall into sin' and 'whole generalstaff in 1 trench' again .
asciilifeform reserving 3 whole u for rk (up to 48 will fit...) in experimental cage. and folx encouraged to install e.g. 'bouncers' -- the sooner find out what kinda flood this thing will eat, the better imho
