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Naphex: and java is
the best ;]
fluffypony: also
they compared performance vs. python and objective-C
fluffypony: they had
to do it at some stage,
they were getting jealous of .NET
fluffypony: artifexd: no serious -
they start it off with "we
thought about how we could have Objective C but without
the problems of C"
fluffypony: closures, generics, namespaces,
the usual
thestringpuller: +asciilifeform> now you have games (and even virii!) with built-in 'lua' <<
The engine
that came from Jak and Daxter is built in LISP for entity relationships.
jurov: adults should do adult
things, of course
jurov: if
that entails using rpi, so be it
jurov: i'm only saying, show
them
the light while
they want
to experiment
kakobrekla: re fw, one of
the ways
to make it easy one yourself is
to keep it as small as possible.
jurov: was
the interpreter accessible?
jurov: because "oh noes
trabant"
jurov: because
there was no popular MS-DOS game with embedded lisp interpreter
jurov: now
they use windows and excel.
that's where i come from
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jurov: only
to give up in disgust few years later
jurov: i have quite a few friends
that got into programming in
their
teens and have done impressive demos
diametric: you can have all
the architecturally pure
things in
the world, but
they don't amount
to shit if
they don't actually manage
to accomplish work.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: anyway
the fw
that i made was first
tested on smpake.com service and was made with btc in mind << "built from
the ground up with security in mind"
diametric: asciilifeform:
that sounds strikingly similar
to something our mutual friend once said, in his attempt
to correctly implement something resulted in
that something never accomplishing anything.
jurov: seems i'm arguing completely different point
than ascii :(
mircea_popescu: Bitcoin suddenly opened
the gate. It is a poisonous offering. You are grossly unequipped
to interact straight with
the refuse of Western society. Accepting investors with fortunes under a million dollars or whatever
the limit was placed for US citizens may make sense. Accepting investors with fortunes under any arbitrary value and simultaneously wits under any arbitrary
threshold is not a sound business plan but a str
mircea_popescu: ever
they’re called now, non-lethal something or
the other)
to correctly handle
them.
They have
the chemicals,
they’ve done
the research, know
the behavioural patterns, have
the walls all built
to obstruct vision, living arrangements all
thought
through and everything.
mircea_popescu: Up until recently it was practically impossible
to become embroiled into any sort of dealing with
the subgroup,
their ownership being strictly assumed and
their lives strictly subsumed by
the corporations competent at dealing with
the human cattle : fastfood providers, supermarkets,
the government. Both as employers and providers
these specialised bureaucracies have
the necessary
tools, including cattle prods (or what
☟︎☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: nubbins`: "hey guise i'm
the first hand-blown glass satanist dildo shop in
the WORLD
to accept bitcoin!" << when's
the ipo!
mircea_popescu: nubbins`:
they see it as "bitcoin isn't ready for apple" <<
they're right,
too. i don't have a mpoe-pr large enough
to swat all
the fucktarded us consumers
thinking
they'r eentitled
to shit because
their govt paid me
taxes or something
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mike_c: those were actually off by a factor of 10, but
they all were so it doesn't really matter.
mircea_popescu: mike_c: pankkake: ipo USD/share: $0.33, 2po: $0.345, current: $0.227 << o wow srsly ? for some reason i had it in my head
they started at a 25cents
mircea_popescu: pankkake: is it down in USD
terms? << for "2nd ipo" definitely. seems just about even for original ipo
tho
jurov: what prevented OLPC
to ship with lisp? "o noes
trabant"
mircea_popescu: i
think he might have said nigger or something unsavoury like
that at some point
diametric: asciilifeform: surprisingly
the last 6 kickstarters i've done have all delivered
mike_c: srsly. he'd be unreadable without
their editing
jurov: yes it is inevitable if people who know better won't do anything for kids because
they want 100% architectural purity without compromises
mircea_popescu: mike_c: like hunter s.
thompson needs fucking BI
to improve his writing. << where would hts be w/o bi!!1
jurov: we have
things like kickstarter now, no need
to go
through incumbents
jurov: because you "oh noes
trabant" attitude
jurov: lisp machines
to date, were not done so.
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jurov: you did not say anything
to my price argument
jurov: i'm only withessing
te failure of your approach so far
jurov: not
the other way round
jurov: give kids
the
toys and
they will make it into silicone later
jurov: that's
the attitude i'm
taking about
benkay: jurov: my plan is
to give 'em emacs on a barebones bsd machine with an irc connection
to chat with me
kakobrekla: kinda same story with
thinking machines, darpa funding
there.
jurov: why can't you just change rpi into lisp machine instead of all
that complaining?
jurov: and
todays' kids learn computing on rpi and python, because whole setup is beneath lispers
jurov: westinghouse had
the presence of mind
to compete on price,
too
benkay: capital requirements got in
the way.