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asciilifeform: trinque: funnily enough, i spend a good chunk of my waking hours 'not ignoring' microshit's output, i earn bread by juggling microshitiana (dealing with, from various directions, malware)
trinque: gotta be able to admit one's political bias plainly, or it warps like so. "microshit is evil therefore I will ignore their output" is not the same as "factually they never once built a thing"
mircea_popescu: i'm not saying "x is y because bitcoin" i'm saying "x is y and btw, check out bitcoin lulz."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform give an example of this original technology and i'll just say "no pcdos" at it.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu wants to inhabit a mental universe where 'there is no such thing as original technology' and xerox parc circa 1970s is exactly same thing as microshit today -- i can't possibly stop him.
mircea_popescu: i suppose we can add 3, "once 1 and 2 are on the table, take refuge in contradictory schemes". there is no such thing as original technology. for something to be a technology it must be unoriginal. original shit is called literature.
asciilifeform: i stand by the statement: nothing which is original in microshitistan, is any good; and any which is good in microshitistan, is not the least bit original.
asciilifeform: i'd genuinely like to know what mircea_popescu takes issue with in this thread
mircea_popescu: not a matter of "oh, mp has allergies" ; not a matter of "check me out, i invented rhetorics and also i'm so smooth ima strawman all over! fat16!11" ; not a matter of anything else, there's no way out of it.
asciilifeform: what useful piece can i cut out, and use outside of microshitistan ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-20#1629499 << as i understand 'innovative' is a barf trigger word for mircea_popescu , but i don't know of a more appropriate word. if q is re 'what useful things did you lift from microshit', and someone suggests 'fat16', i can only answer 'it was not innovation, did not originate from the loins of microshit.' ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i think the only place where you can properly speaking rent a house is ~europe
asciilifeform: understand, i shop in a market where the availability is ~0.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: HOUSES have ~100% occupation, where i live.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sometimes they showed up almost immediately ! as in, next day i call and 'oops sorry it was already snapped'
mircea_popescu: i dunno there exista a place inthis world with 90% occupation. maybe beijing.
asciilifeform: but also, as i learned experimentally, one that doesn't create 'work' for the owner. for instance, i went to a great many folx who were letting out houses, and they wouldn't hear of 'install dishwasher', even when offered 100% of the (not especially frightening) cost of this mod.
mircea_popescu: i've yet to meet someone who lets as a living, even if part time, who wouldn't kill for a good tenant.
asciilifeform: i wasn't at their negotiation table, have nfi how it went.
mircea_popescu: i dun see the problem, i do this with some regularity. get the landlord to eat > then your actual residual post amortisation you're golden.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-20#1629306 << i know a d00d who paid with own money to renovate... flat he was living in. five figs (usd) even. ☝︎
asciilifeform: Framedragger: 99+% of the malware samples i have ever laid hands on, were complete snoar
Framedragger: i mean, towards NT kernel. boy i should recline now
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: directx is simply a fruit of collusion with the gpu vendors, i see nothing innovative about it
asciilifeform: ( i don't recall, in my entire working life, cribbing a useful, solid piece of technical knowhow from microshit. )
a111: Logged on 2017-03-20 01:04 Framedragger: sure. my internal alfatron says "may as well test for tape backup storage system viability" though; surely it's inefficient to test *all* things in a domain that one is not optimistic to begin with. but i see your rationale of course
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-20#1629271 << i actually like tapes, and wish that they were readily available today in useful sizes ☝︎
asciilifeform: last i recall, nobody had.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-20 01:03 mircea_popescu: i don't recall being as pissed off with fat32 at any point throughout the 90s as i've regularly been hence.
asciilifeform: i'd enjoy reading honest benchmarks for 1st time in lfie
mircea_popescu: you might well be right. i still wanna see them. there is no possibility to waste time by looking around.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-20 00:42 mod6: So I'll be getting into the thick of that very soon. Lot to do to get trb-i going.
phf: jeez, i like how they are not even trying. a bootstrap template one pager and a link to "bitcointalk thread" ☟︎
trinque: I'll be impressed when the "I'm just a dude" trope goes away.
shinohai: I had to fill in during your absence BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: <doppler> I've seen that you ask it quite often << Are you sure it was him you saw asking?
ben_vulpes: and with this bit of how the other half lives, i bid ye adieu: http://68.media.tumblr.com/2b2348d8f69c7d1dd8d1ba6b96358cf4/tumblr_omzwq2XTZI1vg6t4ko1_1280.jpg
a111: Logged on 2017-03-16 17:25 asciilifeform: iirc ben_vulpes set up a similar experiment ( lan miner ) a month or so ago, but i dun recall what came of it
mircea_popescu: moreover fuck the "it's going to take". you want me to own an item i can't price to market ? hurr.
ben_vulpes: funny, veen and i were just running through this
mircea_popescu: i don't think there's a case in history where the shareholders got their money's worth.
trinque: I've heard Ive talking (with misty eye almost) about how the relationship with Jobs was "hard"
ben_vulpes: i'm plain unaware of what he says
mircea_popescu: "well... the other guy died" aaaand this is my problem how! i bought jobs stock not fucking wtf this is.
ben_vulpes: nevertheless, i have good money that says these machines will be plentiful and cheap until they are utter unobtainium.
ben_vulpes: i'm sure stan has all sorts of shade to throw
ben_vulpes: anyways, upstack, i have had a very ahem productive weekend
mircea_popescu: i suppose the light attracts delishius snacks.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : there's this matte window to the side of my chicken. and there's a gecko who now lives there. but i mean totally, its his window.
ben_vulpes: i mean there's a whole trumpet flare and clouds parting and everything sure
mircea_popescu: i understand you though. they're so boneheadedly retarded they're offensive to the very concepts.
Framedragger: well i'm sold
Framedragger: you basically deal with a continuous array; plus the option to be careful to read/write at sector boundaries for i/o efficiency.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, who's to say a simple move to 64 bits doesn't resolve the problem altogether. but anyway, i'm more making a point than proposing a technical solution.
Framedragger: afraid i didn't catch this particular drift, sir
Framedragger: sure. my internal alfatron says "may as well test for tape backup storage system viability" though; surely it's inefficient to test *all* things in a domain that one is not optimistic to begin with. but i see your rationale of course ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i don't recall being as pissed off with fat32 at any point throughout the 90s as i've regularly been hence. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: no, i know. but if we end up patching dumbass systems, we should consider the whole field of dumbass systems. not just the ones that falsely promise to work and then fail to work ; but also the ones which honestly admit their limits.
mod6: The role was put on hold since I wrote `t', and 'tb0t', but might come back up again at a later date.
mod6: so a very exciting time, as far as I'm concerned.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> also, we are not at wall : we saw ext4 ; did not see ext2 ; did not see reiserfs. << for sure. i think we're just getting started baselining these prototypes.
Framedragger: (yeah mircea_popescu afraid i won't have time re. those other two till quite a bit later)
mod6: i started working on it very briefly ... maybe 7-10 days in like ... december. but haven't touched it since.
mod6: so that might help. i might write some sort of API also where project admins can interact with their projects without having to use IRC.
mod6: yeah, there was this intial idea of a 'stenographer'.. and I think that's what drove me to just make the ticket system.
mod6: it's meant to be project cutomizeable per project... with like the ticket codes, etc. i'm building out the database now... and it's going well, just slowly.
Framedragger: (btw since there's so much different stuff happening i was considering doing something like http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-13#1481401 (and possibly using log.mkj.lt's multi-line-citation feature to 'capture' different notes/projects) but obviously expanding the ticketing system in a consistent, proper way is the way to go) ☝︎
mod6: there are project admins, and project users... etc. i should add the ability for rich or chained notes.
Framedragger: i guess having an easy way to add new projects (or have a 'misc' parent but maybe that's too dirty) would help in that it'd be easier to record stuff, including tasks not directly tied to trb or V
Framedragger: mod6: fwiw i agree completely. the key point here is (as you said) *noting it down* (including dead-ends). so yeah, afaict you're on the very right track here. i wonder, does the current system need complex massaging to be able to track things like that? i mean, you can add tickets, but i guess no way for them to have a *list* of notes (per ticket)
mod6: <+asciilifeform> to n00bs i often recommend to have an analogue scope also << are these just a bit easer to learn on than their digital counterparts?
mod6: So I'll be getting into the thick of that very soon. Lot to do to get trb-i going. ☟︎
mod6: I dont need a ticket for this, but man, I really gotta get into the swing of Ada.
mod6: There is some side project stuff too that I'd like to get organized and tickets entered for. For instance, you, Framedragger, did some work towards the filesystem idea. We aught to have a ticket for that and track the results.
mod6: I do want to outline more of the trb-i work in tickets, and do some clean-up/management of existing trb tickets.
mod6: Heh, I'm working on a major update to T, also. It's been a bit slow-going as that isn't obviously the most high priority item.
mircea_popescu: anyway, "disagreement-verbiage" so to call it is the stuff of life. i have tons of it with my slavegirls, and they're very literal chattel slaves, not as much as a stitch they own outright nor as much as a private fold in their heart. nevertheless...
doppler: Framedragger: cool, I'll take a look
Framedragger: yeah :) i obviously didn't have any meaningful connection with him before he died, and this was the first semi-personal thing that honestly made me sad
Framedragger: (re. scientific tree, grandfather had this notebook where he diddled lots of things. he was a kind of soviet accountant, and died when i was ~4. many years later when looking at notebook, i discover this 'game' across a great many pages of it. turns out... game of life - neat)
Framedragger: now that i think of it, same with my tree i think
doppler: I have one of those families where no tree member within reasonable reach has worked on anything even remotely scientific
doppler: so instead of making something up I thought I'd tell it to you straight
doppler: I've seen that you ask it quite often
shinohai: I think you are proobably tghe first person I have *ever seen give a direct response* to that question here.
doppler: I guess I'll imagine shinohai as having an arnold voice from now on, haha
doppler: well before my +v expires I'd like to say it was nice to meet you. catch you later.
doppler: oh yeah and of course I read asciilifeform's site too
Framedragger: i think that list was supposed to focus on technology-things, hence it being so partial. (but then, maybe one can see 'church' as a piece of technology, etc...)
a111: Logged on 2015-11-05 22:00 mircea_popescu: actually, this is probably long overdue and a major public service. so i ordered teh gals bring cognac and i shall proceed
Framedragger: doppler: i found this useful when trying to understand what are some of the things that people are doing here: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-11-05#1317685 (seven items) ☝︎
doppler: I have a lot of interests relating to computer technology and operating systems
doppler: mostly I want to learn more about where I am
doppler: just a dude; I read your website and sort of have a loose grasp of some of the community members here
Framedragger: (probably wasn't clear, i mean the photo, i've read the blog before. ..almost looks like it was shot on film or sth)
mircea_popescu: who the fuck seriously runs linux ? i wish to see this wonder.
ben_vulpes: aaand what feels like an eternity later, i have completed my first actual (minor) under-the-hood surgery on the corvette. alternator belt, which is behind the power steering, air conditioning, and "AIR" pump belts
asciilifeform: to n00bs i often recommend to have an analogue scope also
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-19#1629104 << if your scope samples at 1G/sec, and (cheapomatic) 8-bit ADC: that's a 1000MB/s. where do i buy a camera ssd that writes at this rate? ☝︎
mod6: ahh, ok. i wasn't even totally aware that you needed software along with the tool. i thought that the sample was just fed back to you on the little screen...