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asciilifeform: Mocky: unixism per se had ~nuffin to do with it. incut away a degree of freedom. unnecessary degrees of freedom are fundamentally harmful in re simplicity/sanity.
Mocky: so long as you can assume one tru packet size, you can get some ada benefits + extra simplicity, that you don't get otherwise, no?
Mocky: it's a simplifying assumption that pays off with smooth transition between program and unix, when it holds. a tactical cut
asciilifeform: Mocky: y'understand what preallocated means. it means fixed, at compile time, here.
Mocky: ok so does the hardcoding need to be in-package for the preallocated buffers?
asciilifeform: all buffers preallocated on stack , to the fixed size.
asciilifeform: all received packets are either valid (i.e. the one troo size) or invalid (if not).
asciilifeform: i pissed on unix idjicy, none of my routines return sizes or read/write variant lengths. all packets presumed to be hardcoded size.
asciilifeform: Mocky: didja read the libudp coad ?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 20:48 diana_coman: asciilifeform, hmm, there is certainly a case for same size precisely because way simpler code
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1862167 >> I don't see how it would necessarily be any simpler aside from one `if` statement. And there's nothing to stop listening on separate ports and getting all benefits asciilifeform mentions with different sizes ☝︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 23:51 asciilifeform: trinque: i dun suppose you have a cured binary-types ? ( cured, but presently fails to run when i strip away the asdfism so i can work it into my tree bodily )
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1862196 << nope, haven't wrestled that pig ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 23:49 trinque: asciilifeform: it's !Qlater
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 20:48 diana_coman: asciilifeform, hmm, there is certainly a case for same size precisely because way simpler code
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1862167 << nah, they're different divisors. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1862164 << yes ; cuz all 1470s go to one process and all 1472s go to a different one. eventually as a scalability thing could even go to diff box altogether. there's not so muchrelation between the two types. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 07:14 hanbot: anyway the idea is to have an exhaustive list of news outlets with their contact email made, after which i'll have her mail that blurb; i expect something like a week's turnaround, and will report when it's done.
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1861765 << Ok hanbot, this sounds great! ☝︎
mod6: Hi there, just catching up on the l0gz
asciilifeform: it's come to where i can't look at heathen coad for an hour without turning up an intractable barfology.
asciilifeform: trinque: i dun suppose you have a cured binary-types ? ( cured, but presently fails to run when i strip away the asdfism so i can work it into my tree bodily ) ☟︎
trinque: lol well lobbes I tried :p
asciilifeform: !Qlater tell phf wouldja happen to have a frozen nonretarded version of bordeaux-threads somewhere ? the one i have, is utterly sad, squats nickname 'bt' which prevents binary-types from working...
a111: Logged on 2015-12-24 18:35 asciilifeform: 'if two trains meet one another on a track, neither shall move until the other has passed.' (supposedly from a 1880s american state law)
asciilifeform: hilariously, bug (if can call it that) reported as early as 2008, and... 0 published fix to either lib
asciilifeform: it's like two-legged stool.
asciilifeform: grr for fuck's sake what use is a bot that dun go half the time
asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf wouldja happen to have a frozen nonretarded version of bordeaux-threads somewhere ? the one i have, is utterly sad, squats nickname 'bt' which prevents binary-types from working... ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( i.e. you dun have to 'check what it is' on top of existing logic, e.g. if port 9000 it goes to serpent, if 9001 -- to rsa , and each respective process validates per the existing rulez )
asciilifeform: if you distinguish by port, the os will throw them into the correct process 'for phree'. but sure
diana_coman: strictly from an implementation perspective I'd certainly prefer to have only ONE size of message to deal with - even if it means potentially that one has to check wtf it is; still, I'll wait for mircea_popescu to weigh in on this
asciilifeform: i.e. simply run the acct one with 'nice 19 ...'
asciilifeform: having 2 processes (and if desired later, 2 boxes) to process the 2 types, will make priority queue simpler also.
diana_coman: the port/separate is not an issue at all; at any rate rsa will be processed separately by design (and with lower priority) - but all this part is of no direct concern here
asciilifeform: ( to nitpick painfully -- ~frags~ dun carry port; but you ain't fragging no moar, so this is not an issue )
asciilifeform: all udp packet carry port, it's settable to whatever you want just like the rest of the packet.
asciilifeform: you wouldn't have to change anyffing else in about it, can pad the unused 2 bytes with rng.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 16:25 mircea_popescu: ok, so this back of a digital envelope seems to suggest we want : 1. fixed size 1470 byte rsa packets, made to work with 3920-bit rsa (of which i presume the useful message size to be 1872 bit, diana_coman plox to confirm maffs ?). such a packet has then 1696 bits spare for e and bullshit.
diana_coman: this was the orig discussion re sizes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-02#1857354 ☝︎
asciilifeform: plus would let you put the new acct thing, potentially, on separate box, in fyootoor
diana_coman: asciilifeform, hmm, there is certainly a case for same size precisely because way simpler code ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: would get much simpler coad (i.e. my orig. fixed frame) vs the extended one with moar moving parts. ☟︎
asciilifeform: cuz if it's simply to distinguish the rsa from the symmetricolade without wasting a bit in the payload, could simply listen on 2 ports...
deedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2018/10/13/results-of-testing-udp-take-2/ << Ossasepia - Results of Testing UDP - Take 2
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 16:46 mircea_popescu: trinque she has a point, that table needs a unique on the fp column. deedbot can't accept registeration of keys it's already seen.
mircea_popescu: me shall nao off to walk. todledoo!
trinque: yep, I don't think so either. rater won't know where his rating went
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 18:36 mircea_popescu: in other words, jesus god this is lovely -- whenever the girls meet the house's suddenly fulla giggles an' laughter.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1862137 -> this triggered image of labyrinth, lol; "that's just what the Minotaur said - when sated" ☝︎
trinque: probably the diana_coman / Mocky case indicates drop
diana_coman: trinque, please drop the diana_away
trinque: I figure now's a good time to purge the unrated. for the few with ratings on both, I can merge to the nick with earliest rating, or drop.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 16:46 mircea_popescu: trinque she has a point, that table needs a unique on the fp column. deedbot can't accept registeration of keys it's already seen.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859809 << reviewed the db, 15 keys double-regged, of which 5 have been rated only on one nick, and 4 on both (adamgibbins / whoop, MTW / rainrawr, sina / herbijudlestoids, diana_away / Mocky), rest of the keys have no ratings. ☝︎
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I know, hence ox; ("at most calves" if BingoBoingo considers that they really are just boys)
mircea_popescu: in the immortal words of FU (felix unger), "you have to MAKE gravy, it doesn't just come!"
diana_coman: kind of doubt even that; cows on one side really makes for oxes or at most calves on the other, nothing more
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Right, there's a small herd of boys
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, there are no men to start with, in the situation you describe
BingoBoingo: Well, more shock and awe about the bedshitting
mircea_popescu: in other words, jesus god this is lovely -- whenever the girls meet the house's suddenly fulla giggles an' laughter. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: There's a whole epidemic of this in England, fat pasty cows breaking drinkwear and maiming men interested in human shaped women
BingoBoingo: When they get black out drunk in the way basic anglophone bitches get, yes
Mocky: stabbing not needed if boy can be cowwed. what, mayogendered gonna start taking the more strenuous route now?
BingoBoingo: Maybe? I could imagine one of the maygendered stabbing on of the boys for looking at the plentiful fields of ass.
BingoBoingo wonders what would have happened if the same visa run occurred during January bikini season
BingoBoingo: I mean they went to the mall with the pasty moo cows and came back with the same moo cows and not a single one of the fine specimens fo feminimity that populates the mall
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile they boys were just... broken
BingoBoingo: They'd get blackout drunk, shit the bed, and generally horrify the latinos unaccustomed to Madonna culture
BingoBoingo: And the hostage boys were so browbeaten they couldn't consider the local girls lest they become rapists
mircea_popescu remembers the days he could eye-weight a herd of fillies for loading in cattle trucks ; he could get within 1% of true weight just by watching them stand ; at the time a 7 ton truck took ten to eleven dozen young whores.
BingoBoingo: The chubbsters were SO BITTER they weren't getting attention from anyone but their hostage boys
BingoBoingo still remembers the Irish/British/US college aged english teacher invasion of the hostel for a visa run
mircea_popescu: thereby uk still has ~30 followers tops.
mircea_popescu: i mean, as in the celebrated case of that caleb fucktard of http://trilema.com/2016/and-they-wont-fucking-yield/#selection-127.158-135.403 fame -- i guarantee you the 22 complaints are 90%+ of the femwatchers, which are 90%+ of the total watchers.
mircea_popescu: " after the watchdog received 22 complaints over her super slim appearance." << can you belive how few people still follow the "united kingdom" youtube account ?
BingoBoingo: Can't condition Rotterdam to not want Theresa May
mircea_popescu: i can see why they'd have to.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/10/brits-ban-tv-ad-for-showing-healthy-human-shaped-female-model/ << Qntra - Brits Ban TV Ad For Showing Healthy, Human Shaped, Female Model
a111: Logged on 2018-10-11 01:49 mircea_popescu: the punch line, being, i suppose -- guess the fellow's name.
mircea_popescu: (michael arlen, btw, to also provide in passing the answer to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-11#1860585 : "Dikran Kouyoumdjian") ☝︎
trinque: "conquered cultures long to eat the bunghole, noose at 11"
mircea_popescu: who THE FUCK cares what the slavegirl thinks about the hand holding the whip ?!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hey there's a reason wai the armenians ate as much lead as they did
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform point being, the female perspective is somehow dominant in western discourse notwithstanding it is deeply irrelevant.
mircea_popescu: why his fathers ever left Hayastan; for it seems to me much better to be a murdered prince in Hayastan than a living vagabond in London."
mircea_popescu: anyway, author of above vomit is NOT anglo, but ~armenian~. in his own words, "while for an Armenian, who soon realises that his nationality is considered as something of a _faux pas_, there are none of these things, and he is entirely lost in the wilderness, for there is no solid background to his existence in another's country; and, as the days lengthen out and he grows tired of walking in the Green Park, he comes to wonder
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: reads like 'ohnoez, donkey ate the carrot, how will he walk nao' lament
mircea_popescu: y; and generally they compromise, and, physically and mentally, walk about in their shirts."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: meanwhile i read the paste, it's exactly the 'peasants' thread encapsulated.
mircea_popescu: love, but only content. But they do not see that; they insist on spoiling love, breaking the vase with stupid, unconscious hands; and when it breaks they are surprised, and they say that love is a fickle thing and will stand no tests, and that women are the very devil. Always they spoil love; it comes and finds them helpless, puzzling whether to clothe themselves entirely in reserve or whether to be entirely naked in brutalit
mircea_popescu: ove breaks down all barriers between man and woman; that love is a vase of iron, unbreakable, and not, as it is, a vase of the most delicate and brittle pottery, to be broken to pieces by the least touch of a careless hand. They seem to think that the state of love stands at the end of a great striving; they do not realise that it is only the beginning, and that the striving must never cease, for without striving there is no
mircea_popescu: and delicacy, for there was always something coarse, some little note which jarred, some movement of the mind and body maladroit, in a man who is shown a woman's love. "When men love and are not loved," she said, "often they kept their grace and pride, and women are proud to be loved by such men--even faithfully for more than ten years; but when men are loved and are confident, then they seem to lose delicacy, to think that l
mircea_popescu: "We sat on chairs in the sun, and after we had been silent a long while, she began to do what women will never cease doing, so wise men say, as long as men say they love them, to define what the love of a man meant to a woman, and to explain the love of a man. She said that that man was wise who had said that love was like religion, and must be done well or not at all, but that she had never yet found in any man sincere love
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in materia obscura, permit me to befoul the logs with idiocy.
trinque: btw no insult meant to esthlos; we'll get an ebuild in there for his vtron as well, but he lacks a differ, and thus it's not a full v
asciilifeform: ( my old workhorse x60 is not a cuntoo, it is in fact my original deloused-gentoo platform on which i derived the poetteringism-exclusion, gcc<5, etc flags and related items )
trinque: can't wait to see a post on that either
asciilifeform: trinque: this will rock. and incidentally i'ma be baking that sunlight lappy next wk, and intend to set it up as a cuntoo box with whatever bleeding edge you come out with