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mthreat: once Iset up
the cron, yeah something like
that :) Maybe
twice a day, whatever.
mircea_popescu: mthreat
the linking is particularly useful
tho. is
the crawl inefficient ?
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mthreat: <mircea_popescu> btw mthreat wouldja be interested in filling in
the logs for
the first missing year, and generate a drop-in blob kakobrekla can put into his log
thing
too ? << I got asciilifeform's ba-turd file. But I'm not sure what format kako wants. search.b-a gets all of its info from log.b-a by crawling, since I link
to it in
the search results.
mircea_popescu: ha! now
this may be a good formalisation of
the vc problem. birdy whispers in my ear : "all
those guys
trying for financial dominance without intellectual dominance ? ya,
that'll work..."
mircea_popescu: i
think
the deal is kako gets
the praise for
the logs,
benkay: particularly good reading
today, mircea_popescu,
ty
to yourself and asciilifeform
benkay: log challenge doesn't grow less with
the ability
to parse it quickly - now all
the
time saved reading quickly and ignoring
the noise goes into reading
the
things herein linked.
benkay: Man differs more from man,
than man from beast."
benkay: If such
there be, yet grant me
this at least: [220]
benkay: And, with
the rabble world,
their laws obey.
benkay: "Adore
those shrines of virtue, homage pay,
mircea_popescu: just,
their world isn't really
THE world. but
then again who knows
this ever.
mircea_popescu: in a sense
their intuition is quite correct :
the world is in fact ending.
mircea_popescu: by now im quite
thankful for
this entire global warming scam. it saves me so much reading.
mircea_popescu: same article above, with
the bad model for evaluating bots.
mircea_popescu: lol derp goes right into how "they've won
the scientific debate on climate change"
benkay: First
they're enjoyed, and
then kicked out of doors."
benkay: "For wits are
treated just like common whores:
mircea_popescu: i'm not a professor because i find fucking and beating a few selected girls at a
time a lot more effectual
than merely speaking
to an entire gaggle, who also cling
to naive misrepresentations as of
their "rights" and "freedoms".
mircea_popescu: (for
the esl folk, a flap is an affectionate
term for a prepubescent prostitute, also used for uppity, vivacious girls in general, as a
testament
to
the
traditional positive social view on
tween prostitution)
mircea_popescu: that perhaps
they were,
twenty years prior, back in
their flap days
mircea_popescu: it's almost as if being a scientist consisted entirely of beating
the cheap boarding houses and asylums
to select out of
the pox ridden old hags "the paragons of beauty"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the part i find
the lulziest about
these recent academic papers on google page rank is just how utterly broken it is in
the field, defeated by hundreds if not
thousands of different approaches implemented by scores more different agencies.
mircea_popescu: probably publishable as a paper if you can be bothered
to run in
that
threadmill
mircea_popescu: (which approach probably would improve
the original paper a lot
too, just re-do it but not counting
totals, merely counting cases of backstabbing)
mircea_popescu: punkman also,
the bs "nice" has
to be
thrown out, it's meaningless. just count who starts wars.
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mircea_popescu: which is, if
this switch can either kill me or kill
the world,
throwing it is even odds.
dignork: mircea_popescu: what kind of data do you want
to use, current WoT is
tiny
mircea_popescu: and by what's missing, i mean ego.
the bots must consider
themselves equally important
to
the whole world.
mircea_popescu: by crap i mean, i suspect
the academic used WAY
TO FEW bots. use 100s of each
type, and do millions of rounds, for goof statistics. similar
things.
mircea_popescu: punkman i would be very interested
to see what happens if someone were
to
take
the guy;'s idea, clean all
the crap off it, and
then add what's missing.
mircea_popescu: and so you can't have any sort of "conservative morality" predicated on anything in
the set of ("women not being sluts", "god fearing", "wealth and power by age rather
than with and connection")
mircea_popescu: i know for one i would never marry in other way
than
through making some old fart pay for it
thus, were i living in 1814
mircea_popescu: and in principle,
to make
the point whole, for all
those who wish
the "good old days" were
to return :
they can not.
they have been defeated in
the field,
through being weak
to such
things.
mircea_popescu: women being a... consumable commodity, which once consumed has very strong incentives
to stick
mircea_popescu: and for
that matter,
this scam has a history older
than steam. entreprising young american fellows used
to canvass old world ads for girls looking
to marry,
then forward
the details
to old rich american
to pay for
thepassage
benkay: ;;later
tell bitcoinpete <bitcoinpete> at
the club i ran into some classmates from highschool.
the looks on
their faces were pretty golden // whence
the startle?
mircea_popescu: which is a degenerate form
taken by sybil attack in
the degenerate wot
that escrow is
mircea_popescu: dignork even if you
take
the banks out of it,
the escrow model is still weak
to distributed identity attacks
benkay: <mircea_popescu> sort-of like
the
teenage slut born
to wealth
that skips a lot of school, and gets herself knocked up. not only is she getting some candy
to "compensate" her for
the abortion, but she also gets
to blame her cocaine habit on
the bad boy
that "seduced" her. // my favorite is
the one who gets her own condo and a photo studio
to play with and raise her kid in
dignork: it is a general weak system problem - anyone knowing my bank account details (any freaking vendor i had business before) can create bad
transactions in my name, he might get some money, or not, I'll definitely get some headache
mircea_popescu: and by now yuour defense has reduced
to
trying
to implement a broken sort of wot anyway
mircea_popescu: that's
the most you get here, a sort of up and down and all around maybe.
dignork: then x won't be able
to open a
trading account with duplicate details
dignork: mircea_popescu: LBC can divert
this attack, by making e submit bank details
mircea_popescu: yes,
they have
to be clinically brain injured, as you say. guess what ?
they fucking are
mircea_popescu: now how many "escrows" on
the "market" have
the sense
to include a "Issued for use of X"
thus defeating
this mitm ?
mircea_popescu: dignork for
that matter, x can simply convey d's request for proof
to e
benkay: <ThickAsThieves> perfect contender for a bitcoin jesushood
then // bitcoin crucifixion
dignork: well, so e would be able
to fight it in court, but e doesn't want
to get into court in
the first place, so yeah, it has some merits
mircea_popescu: thus creating a one million btc headache for me and everyone else seriously comitted
to making btc
the end of western style government.
mircea_popescu: think of it,
this is a space where fucktarded "community members" aptly represented by
the "bitcoin foundation" and well catered for by
the power rangers a) gave half a million btc
to
trendon shavers and
then b) gave half a million btc
to silk road
mircea_popescu: both are
true
to sufficient degree for
the practical needs of
the swindle in question.
dignork: this is d assumed
to be an idiot, or x have non-trivial ability
to impersonate e
dignork: x will have
to show his escrow balance, otherwise d won't pay
mircea_popescu: escrow deals are easily defeated by
triangulation, which is why wot is still a
thing where escrow is a noob
toy.
mircea_popescu: x sends bank acct
to d, d pays
to account, s receives it, s says so
to e
mircea_popescu: you (D) want
to buy LTC. Seller (S) and scammer (X) and escrow (E) are
the other players.
dignork: ThickAsThieves:
the guy obviously doesn't know
that LBC
trades are going
through escrow, so he can only damage some ratings.
That is, unless buyers are clinical idiots, and release funds first.
thestringpuller: python for simulations...? sound like it'll be running a long
time...
mircea_popescu: to everyone other
than you?). << dpends if you're aiming
to lead or
to follow.
mircea_popescu: Even
though
the measures acquit
themselves well in
this particular
tournament, it’s admittedly easy
to construct scenarios where
the prescriptions of eigenjesus and eigenmoses alike violently diverge from most people’s moral intuitions. We’ve already
touched on a few such scenarios above (for example, are you really morally obligated
to lick
the boots of someone who kicks you, just because
that person is a saint
thestringpuller: lol everytime MPOE goes below 800000
there is a buying frenzy