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a111: Logged on 2017-04-05 14:32 Framedragger: that's
a great stance of course, but i do believe that this disqualifies all but, i don't know, to speculate, "30" publications SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-05#1637792 << this for the record is quite false. there's
a lot of research published, up until when the "our democracy" imbeciles saw themselves in the position of "running things" and they came up with the current pseudo-academic nonsense. i suppose "bologna system" +-
a decade or two.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: not
a matter of some grandstanding oughts here. very cold calculation, it just dun pay. ymmv.
mircea_popescu: "oh, we said we were
a replication -- just, not of the right thing!" , typical americana "this will hold until someone looks at it". from the legal system to everywhere else, country's chock full of that hopeful nonsense.
Framedragger: last note mircea_popescu, paper in question does acknowledge the fact that as regards rsa factorisation, their attempt is
a *replication* (unless i misread). but yes, should be beaten for not mentioning phuctor.
mircea_popescu: so it's not like i'm discussing "isolated incident". there's
a very well established pattern of dishonest behaviour. not just at princeton, either.
mircea_popescu: and since we're discussion princeton : i wasn't going to say anything (which is why i didn't back then), but when some guy found metallic H ( see
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-17#1628809 ) princeton idiots came with
a replicating experiment and have been trying to replace the original author with themselves ever since. which is just about as shameful.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: Framedragger this great stance happens to have been held for many years, sucyh as for instance when in 2010 diana_coman didn't sleep
a weekend to liberate the ro min of edu's data.
diana_coman: and the fact that there is
a lot of null published doesn't make it less null
Framedragger: that's
a great stance of course, but i do believe that this disqualifies all but, i don't know, to speculate, "30" publications SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME
☟︎ mircea_popescu: Framedragger this is
a ridiculous stance. not published = not existing
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: not emotional; in fact i will go further and claim that *your* evaluation stems from
a bit of butthurt (which is human, of course.)
mircea_popescu: Framedragger so it doesn't fail it in your book. what of it. i brought
a whore to my grandma's dinner once, it didn't disqualify her in my book. that's what books are for.
mircea_popescu: and yes people take umbrage with very little bullshit, which is not unreasonable, because
a) very little bullshit is never alone (we know this, because unlike the dicklets involved, we HAvE EXPERIENCE in the fucking field) and b) it doesn't take much to throw everything off, bullshit compounds while truth decays.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i am quite content with their bibliography section. they did not include phuctor (but included the other studies before and after phuctor), and that is
a failure on their part. they can be informed and will even perhaps address this point. that does not fail *the whole paper* in my books, however.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger so if it does not make that statement, it imports, like any research paper EVER, the following "the authors have conducted
a full review of extant literature relevant to their topic, and swear that the following list is complete and correct :"
☟︎ Framedragger: "#trilema dislikes
a random irrelevant paper for not having mentioned phuctor; the rest of the discussion is about how academia used to be better."
mircea_popescu: the only problem with this is that it's essentially fraudulent : princeton goes about to old people pretending it's
a college, but in reality it's
a diploma mill like any other. EXACTLY in the vein of how argentina goes about europe pretending it's
a country an' trying to borrow money, when irl it's less of
a country than my model train set.
diana_coman:
a bit like "it's not plagiarising since this is what academia is now"
Framedragger: i mean,
a large part of the paper is exposition. rsa, dht (relevant to how onion services work), etc.; so, it's not *interesting*. but it's not in any particular way shitty. i wouldn't have read it otherwise and certainly do not see it as very valuable.
diana_coman: on
a side note, the only truly lulzy part in there is the footnote on page 1 "All four authors contributed substantially and share first authorship. The names are ordered alphabetically"
mircea_popescu: what
a difference
a decade makes to academic standards i swear.
Framedragger: wasn't
a rhetorical question. but i certainly do not wish to waste tmsr's cpu cycles, so no need to answer, either
mircea_popescu: Framedragger no you didn't see it because i had
a discussion over coffee before taking the pics with
a girl, so this matters now.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'll include the why in
a formal proceeding. let them FIRST clean up their act
Framedragger: if they ignore then - i'll donate to bitcoin foundation
a bit for generating noise.
Framedragger: well, why don't i (unless someone else already planned to do it first?) write to those folks on that ML, informing of phuctor, to see their response? maybe futile at this point and useless, but at least
a more constructive reaction.
Framedragger: granted, phuctor gets crawled *more* / *
a lot* (i presume, from what you had been telling). so i understand the incredulity of "you haven't heard?!!"
mircea_popescu: Framedragger the "originate the idea" hogwash is ridiculouys. next you'\re going to bring defenses in copyright cases based on "grimm brothers didn't invent the alphabet so therefore ineptitude is
a ok!!1"
Framedragger: possible weaknesses of rsa keys and the idea to run
a "your relay key is weak" service as part of tor metrics infrastructure (tor metrics itself is an old project, ca. 2011)
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : try and find WHERE you register
a complaint with teh fucking shitshow that pretends to be
a university.
Framedragger: not mailing list, but in person in munich, paris, etc. (granted, "taking my word for it" is not exactly
a great argument.)
mircea_popescu: Framedragger what was discussed "in
a mailing list long ago"
mircea_popescu: ima file
a complaint with the princeton plagiarism police.
mircea_popescu: (somebody plox send to asn@torproject.org claudiar@princeton.edu laurar@csa.princeton.edu an' pwinter@cs.princeton.edu
a notice saying "you forgot to quote phuctor, you dorks".)
mircea_popescu: there's by now
a list of about 3-4 of these, all of them similarily sufficient on own strength.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-25 20:19 mircea_popescu: idiot example #1 : peter todd & prb idiots came up with "
a way to do things", which does not in fact work.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: point me to
a 'somewhere', if you'd be so kind
ben_vulpes: eg produce some data
a user can use on an entirely separate box to make and sign txns for rebroadcast however
ben_vulpes: hey how about this for
a "txouts for later use in baking transactions" serialization format: textfile <tx_hash>, with contents <value block_height output_index>
lobbes smells
a tmsr archive server in the future
☟︎ CompanionCube is
a uktard but doesn't particularly like it. There's not exactly much to like at the moment.
mircea_popescu: if anyone had asked the uktards anything it'd even make
a difference what they thought.
CompanionCube: ' The Cable.co.uk poll of 2,000 UK adults – the first of its kind since the Westminster attack – found that 66% believe the ability of intelligence agencies to intercept messages between terrorist plotters is more valuable than the digital privacy of the population as
a whole.' 'More than half (51%) said they would feel safer if WhatsApp and other messaging services were unencrypted because message sent
BingoBoingo: In Qntra submitter guidance: If writing on fake news, Jeff Bezos has owned WaPo long enough to be namedropped as
a Fake News Tycoon
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes | in other ICE news, i got the drift slut sideways
a few nights ago! << nice! i'm guessing this was on pavement but have you tried gravel drifting ? (it's
a ton of fun and the lowest speed way to practise left-foot-braking)
ben_vulpes: stern glares, and
a mark under her name on the whiteboard
pete_dushenski: some cars (ferrari) have paddles mounted to the column so they're fixed regardless of wheel position. most others have the paddles fixed to the steering wheel proper and so they all move in unison. it's sort of
a different strokes debate.
ben_vulpes: in other ICE news, i got the drift slut sideways
a few nights ago!
shinohai: There is
a Mexican lady here that makes best damned queso blanco I've ever had. I've already stocked up on like 3 wheels of it.
mircea_popescu: mp takes the item home, and over
a dish of oyster mushrooms lightly sauteed opens up the TRIPLE WRAPPED!!111 thing.
shinohai: Nice ben_vulpes I like
a classic
ben_vulpes: oh goddamn it this last one is buried in
a megatonne of html horseshit
shinohai: "What sort of meat does
a priest eat on Friday?"
mircea_popescu: 50yo whore is in
a ditch somewhere, and her teeth in another ditch somewhere els.e
mircea_popescu: think in terms of that cartoon re final cs class at stanford : "and you are the idiots who didn't get hired in 2nd or 3rd year". same deal, whoring is
a fine plan for cut-above-rest 16yo. by the time she's 30 she's either married or too rich to care.
☟︎ shinohai: I suppose there was
a shortage of youger, more nubile slaves in that particular region of Latin America.
mircea_popescu: we'll leave the "who takes on 50yo new slave" as
a question for the ages.
ben_vulpes: shinohai: the interesting thing from my pov is that he had
a stable connection forever
shinohai: Yeah he was
a Senior Software Engineer for the Alphabet agency xD
mircea_popescu: pretty obvious alphabet co. maintains
a whole department of "usg cover provisioning"
mircea_popescu: this guy is fucking talented, it's almost like reading summaries produced by expert sluts! god. he's saving me
a lot fo work!
mircea_popescu: "The Muskonauts post their latest launch on Youtube. Hackernews thinks their kids will give
a shit whether Elon recycled rockets. The hilarity of Hackernews expectations of the near future is not outweighed by the repetition of the typical Hackernews output on space travel: space is not worth exploring, yes it is, nobody will use this, yes they will, and then six thousand pages of bad economic theory."
mircea_popescu: Maximum Hackernews is achieved as the sentence "I am too stupid to understand the context of academic research" is expressed as "now if you implemented this as
a web app, i'd be sharing it with everybody"
shinohai: If it was
a real girl they'd have to settle for someone like covertress I imagine.
mircea_popescu: ke aimless poorly-managed floundering. IRCv3 continues to be
a retarded pile of solutions to the wrong problems."
mircea_popescu: "Google continues the war against their own users. The XMPP Memorial Society trades barbs about whose fault it is that
a misdesigned overengineered shitshow of
a protocol failed to gain traction amongst non-erlang enthusiasts. Every single messaging platform in current existence is held up as Obviously The Future. Hackernews tries to figure out what Google's master plan is, and why Google is working so hard to make it look li
ben_vulpes: pushing
a particularly stubborn turd out
shinohai: Looks like
a half woman/ half grub emerging from
a pond full of shit
mircea_popescu: (old and therefore stupid cunt figured she's too good to go in the mud bare cunt, so she took
a dress.)
mircea_popescu: if anyone does, see if the n-gate dude wants to do
a qntra weekly ? he sounds just about right.