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phf: asciilifeform: clim fwiw predates micro exodus. was, like common lisp, an attempt by the three vendors to make
a unified gui foundation. you can still see scarring in genera where they started transitioning to clim apps from their flavors
mircea_popescu: ie,
a dozen people "worked" in the us sense for 18 months.
mircea_popescu: right. and if it were an actual man-year of work it'd be
a wonder.
mircea_popescu: mit never had
a thousand man-years of work, in its entire history to date, counting all the departments.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the question of "why the fuck would anyone even bother with
a mit '''license''' we'll leave for some other time".
mircea_popescu: seems
a lot of retarded one-man-ism that gave the world 5k "airplane inventors" and just as many canvas-made planes that didn't work worth
a shit.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-09 21:17 mircea_popescu: why exactly did everyone in the golden lisp era feel such
a burning need to compete with each other anyway ?
mircea_popescu: "celebrating "Palm Sunday",
a feast marking their holy tradesman's triumphant return to Jerusalem days before the holy tradesman was martyred by combined Italian and Jewish police violence." << epic.
mircea_popescu: "The attacker was able to turn the sirens back on 15 times in
a 90 minute period" lmao
mircea_popescu: why exactly did everyone in the golden lisp era feel such
a burning need to compete with each other anyway ?
☟︎ phf: mcclim always reminds me of how rms was planning on competing with symbolics by reimplementing everything they had on top of gnu platform. that was the goal. only
a handful people who actually worked with
a genera realize how "special" the result of rms's work was.
☟︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 16:04 phf: i met fare at one of international lisp conference's and i thought he was kind of off, but the kind of work he did on asdf3 precisely corresponds to his personal and writing styles. sort of like
a dirty kid that you have to constantly remind to like fucking go wash yourself dude, omg
mircea_popescu: trinque incidentally the best solution probably is to do
a sweep tx now and again (once
a year or such ?) to aggregate all the inputs into one single output
mircea_popescu: yes trinque ; but if
a transaction is under arbitrary amount, it is arbitrarily "Dust" and can not be spent.
mircea_popescu: i have
a good idea what you're running into : your balance is made up of "dust". can't send it.
trinque: ^ PSA: I'm looking at some kind of trb wallet bug which is reporting suffient balance, but insufficient when trying to send
a tx
Framedragger: (as the corpus of text expands, it becomes something like
a fractal derrida and is heavier to manage in mind, at least in my mind)
Framedragger: i'm just teasing; i will consider setting up
a topics-index page; something which is less formal than tickets; and
a way to easily add new items by citing log line ranges. (old idea i know)
mircea_popescu: no, i'm aware what the problems are. just, absent
a written form, im stuck going through the matter question&answer style.
a111: Logged on 2015-10-09 01:20 asciilifeform: the chore that everybody here has been putting off into indefinite future - that of ~actually distributing one's entire modulus~ - is
a necessary thing.
BenBE: It's
a sad state related to hardware that we have.
BenBE: Any other FPGA should basically do: Original design was
a CPLD. So you'd grab one FPGA you /can/ audit the toolchain for and compile the design for that FPGA. It's not too much code.
mircea_popescu: i don't know how you can audit
a xilinx chip. but if you did, asciilifeform would definitely be interested in hearing.
mircea_popescu: did you do
a mapping of temperature -> entropy or anything like that ?
BenBE: mircea_popescu: I think there's
a difference between suspecting someone of malice and proving it. Cf. Occam's razor.
BenBE: Didn't know that particular project, but have
a true RNG based on the WhirlyGig design at warmcat
mircea_popescu: BenBE do you also know the FUCKGOATS, so as not to ever again use
a "prng" for as long as you live ?
BenBE: OT: I know the guy who recently broke the GnuPG PRNG. He has been working on
a project with me for some time
Framedragger: (well it's also technically weak by using
a 160 bit hash, etc) :p
BenBE: It is when you can't handle the vast amount of data it involves (and yes, I know that vast is an understatement here). Alone building
a database to manage all the raw data for my KeyInfoDB/Kompromat project is ~500GB (compressed) keys. Automating stuff for grabbing these at their source for import is
a chalenge of its own.
mircea_popescu: for
a moment there it read as "i don't like $newguy, he might do something stupid." which is silly, let him do the stupid first, not like him after. wtf preemptive dislike.
BenBE: Suggstiong: you have all the keys available that make up those dumps. What about using
a batch job (once per day) creating
a large .pgp file people can download. That's both static and gives people all the information (create UIDs for the extra stuff if necessary)
BenBE: asciilifeform: 1) No, can use it without (just need to do stuff on the command line then) 2) not
a feature you need to use. There's
a CLI clint you can audit and use.
Framedragger: eh it's like facebook, i have
a shitty facebook acct, too
mircea_popescu: need
a better method than downloading the whole list of shit you already know every time.
mircea_popescu: tmsr relies on
a rsa-based wot implementation. for instance
a111: Logged on 2017-04-09 13:48 BenBE: I'm the maintainer of the GeSHi syntax highlighter for PHP, which is used in e.g. Wikipedia for source highlighting of articles. Also working on several crypto-related projects like my own TLS/SSL test,
a collection of publicly-known set of compromised keys, an OpenSource management software for handling X.509 certificate issuance for
a certificate authority.
shinohai may make
a compilation of "Who is your daddy" replies one day ...
jhvh1: That's
a lot of words to not tell me who your daddy is.
BenBE: I'm the maintainer of the GeSHi syntax highlighter for PHP, which is used in e.g. Wikipedia for source highlighting of articles. Also working on several crypto-related projects like my own TLS/SSL test,
a collection of publicly-known set of compromised keys, an OpenSource management software for handling X.509 certificate issuance for
a certificate authority.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 14:17 asciilifeform: if i had insisted, phuctor would still be
a waited-for thing
mircea_popescu: that's kind-of the principal impedance mismatch tmsr gotta deal with : the natural membership is highly technically skilled, which in general comes out of
a tendency to focus and follow in depth. this means it selects for
a certain bias in task seleciton. however, due to tactical considerations, most of the useful work is exactly opposite.
mircea_popescu: and especially as
a small and high mommentum entity you DO NOT want to go chasing any "large investment upfront payout way later" deals. so much "low investment payout over time in exponential fahsion" holes still available.
Framedragger: you may be underestimating the scope of EC crypto in use on teh world. (then again, why should one care about
a broken world anyway, sure)
Framedragger: i don't personally think it's
a completely wasted effort if any backdoors in parameters are opened up to all, vs. just the owners.
mircea_popescu: seems if you were going after ecdsa you'd attack the curves not the keys. kind of
a wasted effort seeing how the curve authors already know the holes and why the fuck would i bother when blacklisting works so well. but anyway.
mircea_popescu: you're asking me to find the second-possible cause of death of
a corpse.
mircea_popescu: i thought it's
a 100% imperial racket, they use whatever faux crypto currently fashionable.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger phuctor being
a republic item it can only eat realities. how is it going to eat "evanghelical church" ? bitch, unwrap your branding, what is it ?
Framedragger: eh there was
a plan for phuctor to ingest these certs, too, i think?
shinohai: I need to dig deeper into that, last attempt at removing the <> resulted in breaking the whole damned thing because python is
a turd.
mircea_popescu: BenBE apparently x.509 is
a john smithism, "here's
a wrapper for reality i created because i'm from america and here we're retarded". what specifically do you mean, ecdsa ?
shinohai: Pills are like phone apps in America it seems. "Oh you have the sniffles? There's
a pill for that!"
BenBE: Getting the keys from the website is possible, but needing to scrape them is somewhat
a bad solution (for all sides). The project I'm currently working on is an information service where you can ask for
a public key or its fingerprint and the service will tell you some stuff about that key (type, where it was used before, has it been factored, is it sensibly sane, compromised and so on.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform linked
a dump at some point, check the logs. the principal parts are
a sks+trims (keybase, whatnot) dump that might be still available, though 2 years back in logs, and Framedragger 's ssh scan results, which he might share with you.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-09 02:34 danielpbarron: shinohai, no i would not. might be adult swim bidding it up as
a promo. On related note, wendy's fastfood chain is helping some highschool kid break world record retwats to promote their "chicken" nuggets. more than
a million bots obliged in one day. goal is 18 million
ben_vulpes: so if i have
a `std::map<ktype, std::vector<vtype>> stuffMap`, is it legal to say `stuffMap[k].push_back(newV)`
mircea_popescu: but, get this. i ask for tea, girl promises in approximate spanish (do youspeak english ? nope. french ? nope.) that she'l;l show me. comes over with
a bunch of early grey paper bags and cups of hot water.
mircea_popescu: actually... the "russian rock concert" was
a chick barely qualified to be the hottie in average senior hs class doing karaoke. her jeans were adorned with
a scarf underlining her completely virginal inability to use her hips, and moreover she had one motor glove on, so it's ok.
mircea_popescu: sooo... i went to this russian bath/blinyi house for
a... russian rock concer.
danielpbarron: shinohai, no i would not. might be adult swim bidding it up as
a promo. On related note, wendy's fastfood chain is helping some highschool kid break world record retwats to promote their "chicken" nuggets. more than
a million bots obliged in one day. goal is 18 million
☟︎ ben_vulpes: from the interesting-claims-department: "we show that our targeted stack-spraying approach allows attackers to reliably control more than 91% of the Linux kernel stack, which, in combination with uninitialized-use vulnerabilities, suffices for
a privilege escalation attack."
shinohai: Are you THAT BIG
a fan danielpbarron that you'd pay ~83 BTC for some sauce ?
jurov: however, i personally have no issues with ugliness. i hate most if it opaquely monopolizes event loop (like qt) and then networking is
a problem
phf: there's
a working purey xlib backend that uses very minimal decoration and server side font-rendering. i'm trying to figure out how to make it look like not-shit, without compromising the integrity
phf: jurov: kind of, in
a roundabout way. i gave up on mcclim and that whole crowd last time they were mentioned here, but i'm slowly reviving allegro's clim2
phf: couldn't find it, but he was basically correct. after jumping through
a lot of retarded hoops i got to run xquartz on
a retina mac at 1-to-1 pixel, and pretty much any of the type1 fonts at 230 or so look quite good
phf: i was trying to find tuomov's rant from 2007 or so (the guy behind Ion) where he basically said that anti-aliasing is
a kludge, and we won't even need it once the dpi is high enough
shinohai: To be fair I did buy several bricks of Bustelo with BTC once, but hardly
a cup.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: for my own education, if not too much trouble, when you have
a minute, could you paste
a few log lines from the webserver relating to the 1min wget'er?
Framedragger: wtf. i'll beat myself with
a crontab manual, then
Framedragger: that wasn't supposed to be once
a minute. sorry about that.