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mircea_popescu: orcs have nfi how any man tools work, do they ?!
a111: Logged on 2018-10-19 09:36 Mocky: ie year one do this, year 2 do this...
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-19#1863986 << ahahahaha they think cowork is uni lab! roflmao. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they did not read/understand colon-ial history.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-19 09:33 Mocky: but there's exactly no one here who would use a coworks. you either came here for a job, or your dad can get you a job
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-19#1863981 << one idea is, most of these4 people prolly have a gf, who is possibly attempting to "live independently". talk to whatever aspirational class girlies do there ? "real estate agent" is it in latam ; maybe "expensive shop 5th avenue of doha" ? thjat was ~it in bucharest. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Or in Uruguay's case non-prison genocide because they ate the wrong fellow
asciilifeform: esp. odd considering that orig spanish had 0 problem with gulag for the aboriginal extras
mircea_popescu: i'm saying they missed the convenient doping in the mental dielectric to allow the sparking of "this! what we do is THIS!"
asciilifeform can picture this
mircea_popescu: huge north-south difference in earth. a little like -- will find more bug residue on car windshield than back-facing spoilers.
asciilifeform: gulagistan wasn't exactly rich in surface minerals, either, most of the digs were fairly deep
mircea_popescu: not that they did drill that much. but then again neither did stalin, at first.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: All the copper's in Chile on the other side of the mountains
mircea_popescu: but yes, totally -- go to college, on entrance test basis, 100% free, luxurios accomodations even. however at the end of it, the bottom half straight to kolyma.
asciilifeform: anybody ever so much as bothered to drill an' see ?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-28 14:27 mircea_popescu: there is no, strictly speaking, reason that iron MUST be provided on the surface of a planet just like the earth. it ~could~, very well, have simply gone through a place poor in planetoids and ended up entirely iron free on the surface. but it did not.
mircea_popescu: yeah. problem is stalin got lucky (in the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-28#1759568 sense ) and siberia was "rich". pampas -- no such thing. so they didn't have the stepping stone, for it to occur to them, what to do with lefty students. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Not from this stock
BingoBoingo: 10x the warm bodies, no thanks
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i think the problem was they permitted buenos aires agglomeration << The more time I spend here the more horrifying the idea of a Buenos Aires is.
mircea_popescu: i think the problem was they permitted buenos aires agglomeration
BingoBoingo: The dictatorship in Uruguay legalized cannabis in the 1970's to neuter the hippies and by the 1980's they lost at the ballot box.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ar is still historical puzzler to me -- they sprayed and sprayed, and no end of roaches; what was the issue, notenuff spray ?
BingoBoingo: Fucking Uruguay's put themselves up for referendum! And let themselves lose!
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so sad all the 70s dictatorships failed. argentina'd have been a way better place if the junta shot 10x more students and beat ~all of them.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, Uruguay has one jailbreak story. Back in the dictatorship years a bunch of Commie scum (~150 NPCs) locked up in the future Punta Carretas Shopping tunneled their way out.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: trad in ru also
mircea_popescu: somehow managed to maintain bizarre taboos, such as "not using same dishes/flatware" across sexual orientation.
mircea_popescu: anyway, what the dudes did have was a very strangely nordic, respectful and ellaborate ritual dealing with homosexuality.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ro jail wasn't ever that full.
mircea_popescu: ie, guy who was gonna steal a cookie was gonna steal a cookie ; that in the one case where he stole it he saw some guy stealing from a jar in miami so "he was emboldened by the sight" is entirely uncausative. he'd have stolen it because a spider climbed the wall and similarily "inspired" his dumb ass.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: by all accts, typical escape in su proper was during conveyance . prisons had well developed systems of stoolies, capos, cells packed like sardine can, not much lock fiddling there.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 19:52 asciilifeform: because unlearns faster than learns.
mircea_popescu: i'd say http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687624 ; but then again the suspicion in my mind is that this is the sort of thing thatd happen anyway. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it's funny how the worst traits of pantsuitism export easiest.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And it is inept in a way that is alienating the labor folk who "support" them
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so they went to all this trouble to vote themselves a ~1mn annuity ?
mircea_popescu: especially if elite talent's stuck there boring with it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform competency rather than connectivity is discussed.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: capital-B thief ? or lower case
BingoBoingo: And in still other local news, the Tranny reparations bill passed. Trannys born before 1975 with documentation showing "persecution under the dictatorship" (i.e. commie scum) will be getting 11.000 pesos monthly. The estimates are 150-180 of these tranny reparations will be made, and I am guessing everyone receiving them will be an FA party member.
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, was ~always~ the case. during soviet times, i recall older guy saying to (friend) who worked at jail, "god fucking help you if an actual thief ever ends up in there".
mircea_popescu: i'd say sqft of prison floor is actually slightly more deranged than sqft of starbucks
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly naively, i pictured that the clink is the 1 place that regularly frictions against actual-human folx. but whoknows, after N gens of reddit, this.
mircea_popescu: or to use yest's terminology, after years of being maintained and populated by intelligent people, carcel central suddenly ran into a smart guy.
mircea_popescu: then runs into actual human, suddenly the whole thing's closer to a drawing than anyone realised.
mircea_popescu: ioned tend to apply. "did that fix things ?" "i did what was in the book" "but did it work ?" "what do you want from me! what i do is just a gig! it's not my life!!!".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not necessarily that it happened ; but you gotta understand the interaction between massively multiplayer ineptitude and internalized castration. prison sits there for years at a stretch without encountering an actual human being, 100% redditards spinning in their own internalized mental narratives, incapable of finding way out of paper bag. slowly decays, under imaginary maintenance, the sort that the aforement
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'll believe the hollywood escape is possible. All most of the kids here eat is hollywood.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-19 09:30 Mocky: well not so 'guilded' for the bottom two classes, but at least they can leave now if they want
asciilifeform: and hey, prior to that , who was it, luciano ? who had proper carpeted flat, writing desk, whores, in cell
mircea_popescu: who was that guy that had a number of children with the assortment of strippers hired to "guard" him back in the zone ?
asciilifeform suspects instead orc escape, chum bribed guard , walked through open door
a111: Logged on 2017-03-17 14:22 asciilifeform: recall the anecdote re w. shockley's 'genius spermbank' calling feynman ? him: 'whatcha bothering ~me~ for, talk to my father'
mircea_popescu has exactly 0 intention of entertaining the "but i am your son!" bs in any case. everyone's someone's son, and http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-17#1628787 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: much like EVEN NOW the cost of disease still fails to exceed the benefit from sexuate reproduction, i suspect the same applies there : any other drawbacks a social system may have, the fact it dun force you to put woman's children in your wot is still enough to bring it above water.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-19 09:29 Mocky: but Qataris don't mix with the help, except the partying 20 somethings that don't want to work (reportedly) and they don't seem to be in their parents wot
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-19#1863976 << this is very much the one great gain of multi-female household. you don't have to put the spawn in wot. imo worth weight in gold. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: she'd work winters in the (at the time) super-hottest-spot-on-earth, some expensive & pointless UAE resort development.
mircea_popescu talking to "party girl" at some point (ukr chick, too) about it : "don't you find it intolerable ?" "well... i think of it as a perpetual costume party in the street."
Mocky: that seems to be the report from housekeepers. bored qataris with nothing to do but shisha, sex and kfc
BingoBoingo: Hence the walls.
mircea_popescu: Mocky egypt is same way, except then in private it's topless party w/e.
Mocky: if there are local girls who dont' look exactly like this at all times in public, I havent seen: http://www.milenio.com/tendencias/Mujeres-Arabia-Saudita_MILIMA20160119_0193_8.jpg
BingoBoingo: It seems pretty clear the 20 foot concrete fences are for privacy under the pretext of security
BingoBoingo: Anyway, fishing locals by social class is a thing.
mircea_popescu: "must be in right time at right place" sorta deal ; otherwise LOTS of people (and a LOT more than care to admit) spent 60s in california looking for the party.
mircea_popescu: Mocky it's possible they may have a prequal system, if not necessarily what BingoBoingo describes.
Mocky: dozens of party boats that head out for afternoon / evening party / swimming in the bay. thumping music in harbor at night
a111: Logged on 2018-10-19 15:34 deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/10/tech-press-touting-latest-google-fritz-chip/ << Qntra - Tech "Press" Touting Latest Google Fritz Chip
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-19#1864068 << for extra lulz, BingoBoingo : i regged an acct on their www and submitted comment, and (spoiler) 'Submitted and awaiting moderation...' for hrs nao ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Mocky: Well, do the locals go there? Take four of the girls you met and lounge around with the for a weekday evening. Good chance that might be how you meet locals.
Mocky: the big thing is the party boats in west bay, wooden boats you can seen in like half the public pics of Doha skyline.
Mocky: there are a bunch of beaches. some closes during turtle nesting season. spread around qatar. not sure how many close to Doha, but not like it's a big country
BingoBoingo: <Mocky> the downtown area wraps the bay and is maybe 10 blocks deep. I guess you could call this 'a ring'. the rest of the city is basically concentric circles of rings b - f (actual street names) between which are neighborhoods of predominantly residential villas but with huge retail areas interspersed. << The rings sounds rather like 1900's-1950's Montevideo
BingoBoingo: Mocky: I take it there is a beach?
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/10/tech-press-touting-latest-google-fritz-chip/ << Qntra - Tech "Press" Touting Latest Google Fritz Chip ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and then when i say there's a lot of supernumerary bodies...
mircea_popescu: "so... what do you do ?" "uhm i dunno man... we just live here. it's just a gig, it's not our life. wanna toke ?"
a111: Logged on 2018-10-19 09:26 Mocky: week two has been wheel spinning so far like most of week 1. I've had in person conversations with 30+ people in the last week about business and finding a local business sponsor. None of these people are locals, none of them knows a local in business, or even an expat in business, or had any idea what they would do if needed to find.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-19#1863972 << ahahaha. this is pretty rich. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-19 09:10 Mocky: for example, there are 12 malls in Doha. if you stood on top of one, could see others.
mircea_popescu: it's a sad testament to the age of "enlightment" that we went from 1600s manor house to 1800s brownstone tenement and now to 2000s tallwall. dark ages ftw.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-19 08:25 Mocky: in the 'burbs there are sort of ticky tack housing communities where a couple dozen villas will share one big wall, with guard on duty at the gate.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-19#1863959 << what you're describing is pretty much where the current world's going. ~same here, ~same in moscow, whatever. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: In other news: The Peruana, Gloria, has passed her examinations and will be getting licensed in the profession of vaccination.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-19 00:43 amberglint: here's the crack for Macsyma: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/TRpId/?raw=true
a111: Logged on 2018-10-19 00:41 amberglint: thankfully someone shared the crack with me, which I pasted here: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/91Gll/?raw=true
asciilifeform: makes sense tho, if errybody is either a baron or cheapo gastarbeiter , deportation worx
Mocky: gotta pass a medical exam that says if you'd survive. can keep shirt on. reportedly brusing not bleeding
Mocky: fewer lashes for theft etc. I know the corporal punishment sentences are handed down, but not always implemented. I don't know the ratio of commuting to jail time / deportation
Mocky: finger / hand / arm chopping ... not a thing anymore here
Mocky: for the man only
Mocky: it's still on the books, 40 lashes for sex outside marriage for a muslim. i think they did it as recently as a few years ago
Mocky: I don't know about public or not. as part of sharia law it applies only to muslims. they have secular law for non muslims.
Mocky: flogging is still a thing here
Mocky: quite rigid structure, few if any cracks to fall into. Foreigner is tourist, sponsored worker, or businessman. plenty of idle locals, but idle rich in nature, if not substance
asciilifeform: ( while on subj, what's the punishment system like ? can attend a good beheading, arm-chopping ? )
asciilifeform: well not just any idlers, but folx not fitting into the structure. bums, pickpockets, the typical bipedal ferals of 'civilization' ☟︎