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Framedragger: (quite certain i was called "that hippie" in german by some (wannabe) upperclass old germans; i have 0 regrets)
Framedragger: (then again, when i boarded a 1st class train to berlin in the morning after ~6h overnight crawl with no time to change clothes, i was seen as a wildman (unkempt beard at the time, too), scared some old german ladies. "megafun" for certain definitions lol)
mircea_popescu: paris in may though... i guess if i were a girl i'd be trying to suck up to you right about now.
mircea_popescu: lmao this guy. i think the lord globetrotter may have been more apt.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-30#1650298 << ty, i'm still thinking about it. am in paris, so not much computer time. it's a perfect subj to pen and paper at cafes, while drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: she was in women in cages and whatnot, i'm sure tarantino jacked it to her loads.
mircea_popescu: (oh btw -- it's MELANIE (for reasons, the dark one, see disgrace also) not natalie. nfi what i was thinking)
mircea_popescu: what he's saying reduces to "the bitcoin nodes run non standard code which keeps two mempools - one to tell you, a different one to use for their own, not transparent reasons". this is exactly what i was saying also, but restated in such a way to give some appearance of footing to the usual tardstalk "oh, guise, you can't know for sure" nonsense.
Framedragger: if still curious, looks like http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-03#1420979 , i'll reread later actually ☝︎
mircea_popescu: not that i have any doubt one examples may be forthcoming for the indefinite future.
mircea_popescu: if you find the link, i'll re-read.
Framedragger: i do not agree with this latter judgement, while understanding that "not agreeing with facts" is an instance of "being natalie"
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i will give one example. about a year ago, there was a discussion with sturles about mempool and the whole zero fee tx clusterfuck. at some point later on, you said that (can't find quote, paraphrasing) on scrutiny, sturles' account broke apart. whereas i read it as "discussion was ongoing, then mp changed topic".
Framedragger: i actually vaguely remember. is that also where guy shoots girl towards the end because she was being bitchy? :D
Framedragger: (nice quoted bit, too, i see the relation, i don't agree that bitbet can be modelled as "just opinions", but w/e)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i don't believe i have
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-03#1651261 << i'm not disagreeing, but am lol'ing at the fact that the "other side" would probably say the exact same thing. "delusionary worldview" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the point is that this nonsensical construct where "oh, we'll avoid having our balloon worldview pricked by not doing anything -- hey, this guy is doing something, how come he can't give less of a shit about all the pricks we fear ?!?!" is wholly psychogenic. i get that the man-child abomination really truly fears the imaginary pricks he perceives to exist. but it can't be allowed to stand, this notion, that his nonsense is s
asciilifeform: and lol , mircea_popescu's lament is ~exactly asciilifeform's ~yearly 'when i stop writing trb fixes, they stop getting written'...
mircea_popescu: and they will continue to, for the indefinite future, hide behind "oh, i can't say fuckgoats and THAT is why my brain doesn't work -- it's my principles!!1"
mod6: mircea_popescu: yah, will report back after i try some diff envs. etc. thx!
mircea_popescu: can't say i can argue with his "not even human".
mod6: i'll keep working on it, might be an env related thing.
mod6: i can't honestly get it to compile though.
mod6: but chalking it up to I don't know what I'm doing quite yet.
mod6: im starting to get into ada things... but i have a lot of problems with `gnatmake`, not sure exactly why.
mod6: i'm pretty excited about tmsr~ / trb/trbi things upcoming.
ben_vulpes: well the asparagus and chicken seems to have smoothed everything out, so i guess i can't even really complain about present circumstances!
ben_vulpes: there i found something to complain about
ben_vulpes: pretty damn well, i gotta say
mircea_popescu: the mockery itself was not bad, notwithstanding the sad situation of the dorks somewhat in the vein of you know, that fat annoying kid with a hot older sister. "why should i wash, have you seen the boobs on Jane ?!?!"
mircea_popescu: i expect asciilifeform and no one else would well enjoy it.
Framedragger: not at all, i guess i'm just used to cold and person-less banking (which i actually enjoy tyvm), but yeah i see
Framedragger: yeah, quite. hah, i see
Framedragger: i wonder how exact those revenue figures are, if it's a "simplified corp" (and not publicly traded it seems), but yeah guess so
Framedragger: whoops sorry, thought i'd stab in dark as that info was on wiki in that order. morning star prolly just copypasted from it. or vice versa, hard to tell these days
mircea_popescu: i was actually reading teh morning star but ok.
Framedragger: (i think lots of .fr co's are "simplified corporations"?)
a111: Logged on 2017-04-21 17:32 mircea_popescu: last i checked ovh did not own the dcs.
shinohai: I'm unsure why I even started using the place, besides knowing a person or two there. I always liked sdf better for my shell needs. They only recently started accepting Bitcoin for memberships so I need to renew again, for life this time.
Framedragger: ahh, i see! k
shinohai: jhvh1 almost didn't live there because they did python "upgrade" to 3 and removed 2.7 .... after much bitching and a few bitcents of admin greasing I got it back.
shinohai: No, I mean their *own* irc server (and the phree webspace) forces it. But you are welcome to run other services as you please.
Framedragger: shinohai: jhvh1 is also on hashbang, right? how does hashbang force ssl for *that* one, i wonder? by whitelisting irc ssl port only?
Framedragger: i 100% concede, why pretend and bloat. picture wasn't sure in my head before, "vps but uhh more light", maybe it's just unix users lol. damn.
Framedragger: oh aha, misunderstanding of term (i was the one to abuse it). for me "vps" meant any kind of stack-i-zation of this kind, not necessarily xen/etc.
trinque: what the hell does "now I have 300 kernels" in memory buy you but attack space
Framedragger: trinque: i'm not constructing a technological argument. i'm saying, actual cost would be dirt cheap, hence for customer it would be dirt cheap.
trinque: gonna have to explain to me wtf conflates "I get a weechat and shell" with "need massive shitstack of xen/kvm/strange"
Framedragger: same. (it's not like i'd quit $job if this is done anyway, so even by trinque's line of reasoning, won't go homeless in 6 months!1)
Framedragger: it's ~petty in terms of business/margin/etc., but as a tmsr service, it may be useful to have, for some people. can you see how vps (in this fashion) may remain part of world for at least i dunno several more years? apologies if this line of reasoning totes ruins your day.
Framedragger: you may not use it yourself because, barf, (1) "just get a real thing already", and (2) "i have more things to host, so why should i pay for this AND that, separately". but for someone who only needs bouncer and maybe-sometimes-ssh (writing small bot in vim, connecting it to irc, etc.), it makes sense to pay very-little for a very-little-thing.
Framedragger: trinque et al.: thanks for (as always) righting me. i have a shitty follow-up that is still bugging me. here it is, condensed: i think there is a service niche (again: i am in no way vested/involved as of now) for offering a shell with limited resources and (say) a bouncer (like hashbang.sh), for "dirt cheap".
Framedragger: there must be a more efficient means of doing that... but i guess it needs to sell them the story of "one with the universe" and ecology, too, due to self-deception
Framedragger: haha :D no. i guess there is that, too. it got even more expensive as of late, didn't it
ben_vulpes: oh perhaps you are asking if i meant burning man?
ben_vulpes: but shit damn some day i am going to get back behind the wheel of a unimog
ben_vulpes: lol i wish
mircea_popescu: i thought you drove some sporty thing
ben_vulpes: i already left, mircea_popescu.
ben_vulpes: no i'm leaving, you think i want anything from this shithole?
Framedragger: well, i don't have good track record here, so eh
trinque: so then broaden the category to "shit I read on hackernews"
Framedragger: yeah. ftr i do not survive or profit from vps. it can be useful sometimes (such as FOR INSTANCE for scanning the damn ipv4, overnight, and not paying for whole month, or for whole box.)
trinque: maybe your way of paying rent has no future. better plan ahead I guess
Framedragger: because it may be more than $32 if it's somewhere else but i MYSELF DEFEAT THIS POINT sorry damnit.
trinque: it'd be worthwhile to reflect on why "no really what I have to do to pay rent has a future"
mircea_popescu: i mean other than deliberately trying to be annoying.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger how do you go from " a grand total of 32 bezzlebucks" to "e i'm not convinced just *how* much actual +ev does a "non-nato" provider give" ?
trinque: Framedragger: the datapoint I gave is in re: "VPS is a thing" not "here host in usglandia"
Framedragger: sliding the point? sorry, no intention to do that. i see trinque's point, sure
Framedragger: i'd rather not host in the u.s., but at the same time i'm not convinced just *how* much actual +ev does a "non-nato" provider give
Framedragger: yeah i remember you mentioning the provider before, cool
Framedragger: nb, do you mind if i ask how much traffic (unless unmetered) you get and whether this is colo (in which case, appreciation costs, too)
trinque: I am currently paying some guy in the midwest a grand total of 32 bezzlebucks a month for two boxes that would trounce any VM
Framedragger: damn i forgot the secret sauce, i'll maintain deedbot's l1 mappings in mongo cluster
trinque: I'm just giving you shit.
Framedragger: i thought there may be a demand for vps. multiple parties indicated such, including mircea_popescu.
mircea_popescu: i bet you right now there's thousands of depressed dudes in ugly tshirts scattered all over silicon valley who would call a hooker if only a) half hour weren't the shortest quanta available and b) they were petrified they've got no way to amuse a girl for a WHOLE half hour, even if she were slightly retarded.\
Framedragger: yeah i need to avoid them sheds.
Framedragger: well, i recall asciilifeform's "nearlyfreespeech" hosting provider which boasts are "very honest" resource cost scheme, something to the degree of seconds, with loyalty (depending on total resource usage) discounts being applied every second (or minute, too) :D but that can be a bit childish.
mircea_popescu: i guess. really why are you painting this bike shed ?
Framedragger: i was thinking, minute / hour / day (with discounts at each level), which is less coarse in terms of "jumps"
mircea_popescu: but sure, day works, hour works, i have nfi who would not be interested in a per hour deal because he wants per minute!!11
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i mean, when you're thinking of spinning up those mirrors, you (i now suppose) think in terms of months/weeks, not days or hours or minutes, hm. yeah, i see.
mircea_popescu: i guess.
Framedragger: re. per minute, i guess i should reach out to consult first eh - this was borne from a solipsistic "me as a customer" consideration: e.g. i want to test out some trb feature across multiple different instances, i need good i/o and memory; monthly costs would not be trivial (for the purpose at hand), so i wish to be charged on smaller timescales.
Framedragger: again, yes i understand, but really depends on application/purpose. being able to assign IPs from different c blocks is (eventually) desirable, but may be too steep in the beginning.
Framedragger: (or, becomes cost-effective if users commit to more extended periods of time; i suppose the thing would have to be flexible re. latter, anyway. i may want to spin something up for testing purposes just for the evening; or, i may want the thing for months+ (with expectation for a discount.))
Framedragger: but i can certainly understand the separate-machine constraint for mirroring etc.
Framedragger: well, for purposes other than mirroring (CDN'y purposes), it could be useful. e.g. when i had to spin up 13 vps instances at once, i only cared that they had separate (dedicated) resources and IPs
mircea_popescu: why would i want 2 instances on the same box/ip ?
Framedragger: (costs could almost-equalise at scale, but until then, it'd be more costly i would think.)
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-02#1650908 << i assume that here you meant "separate physically", even though the context was a discussion about vps? there could of course be a knob (separate instances, or separate instances on different boxen; the latter attracts a higher cost). ☝︎
mircea_popescu: lenovo did use it to persist, i recall the scandal.
a111: Logged on 2015-08-12 21:41 ascii_field: 'nstead, a file called "wpbbin.exe" was placed in C:\windows\system32 and executed. That turns out to be a method Microsoft introduced with Windows 8 to allow the BIOS to execute code on boot up (!?!) called "Windows Platform Binary Table (WPBT)". I can find almost NOTHING about this anywhere on the internet except a single document on Microsoft's website (link to the Google Cache since it's a .docx file) and in a random
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: well, while i of course agree in general, i don't agree in particular: i'd certainly find it useful to be able to supply a "curl phuctor stats every 24h, serve here" instruction. or, you know, "submit key", or "comments", or anything else of the sorts.
shinohai: I'd certainly be more likely to use irc shell from a tmsr Lord than rando docker service ran by SV weirdos
mircea_popescu: could I do something like !$mirror <url> 5 so as to get it to spin up 5 separate instances, load url, unpack it and serve ? ☟︎
Framedragger: i vaguely recall, yes. shinohai you use hashbang, right? fwiw vc's box.cock.li + scaleway (hourly billing) work for vps purposes (but no bitcoin for scaleway)