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BingoBoingo working on a piece covering republican research and doctrine on censorship resistance as of 2018 to throw on the blognotebook, to inform Pizarro marketing.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: thing was never usg.adopted, was 90% of its orig appeal
asciilifeform: 'oh posting intermediate calcs Would Be Wrong (tm), some scum could find out that we're fulla shit', or is there some other plausible hypothesis here..?
asciilifeform: so then i go an' reread the paper, and whole thing is in this style. 'oh i picked the sboxes based on shuffling des's and rejecting the variants that keep bits in position toomuch' but where IS this scratch work posted?? apparently nowhere.. )
asciilifeform: what's the win from the not-really-hash 'key schedule' thing?
asciilifeform: ( anyone who considers 528byte an excessive key, can use e.g. keccak as expanded, instead of the 1970s strange , neh )
asciilifeform: for that matter, why not let user give the full 528bytes (132 x 32b) of key material, why this whitening is hardwired in.
asciilifeform: iirc diana_coman asked a similar q, but cant currently turn up the thrd
asciilifeform: i still dun grasp why the fuck the author used this adhocism, with 1way propagation, rather than an actual hash (and 'because all other blockciphers did' is not an answer.. )
asciilifeform: ( was about to ask 'so does it actually use the other 4 32b words..' then it clicked )
asciilifeform: or hrm, nm, i'm thick, after all
asciilifeform: observe, in the key scheduler,
deedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=68 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR Log Summary - 10/23/2018
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have a serious wtf re serpent, and neither the s.mg/classic ada, nor the orig paper, has helped me to make sense of it, and i'm suspecting that i'm thick... so here it is:
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 03:06 mircea_popescu: eh. the quality of police work has so terribly degraded in the past half century, if anyone does ANY PLANNING AT ALL it's a murder that'll never get solved.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-28 17:37 asciilifeform: the checkpoint queues are ~100% theatrical, when they want some d00d 'by name', typically pick him up at the check-in desk, long before he gets to the queue
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-28#1866904 << cuz all the "picking up" left available is by name only ; http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795382 extends, extends. ☝︎☝︎
BingoBoingo: You can WoT evaluate people. Hard to do that to a toilet full of cops.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I do have difficulty with that as well. Anyways people, no platforms.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i have difficulty picturing the derps actually ponying up the coin to cover the not-insignificant cost of housing their rezistenta prin cultura idjitmagnet. but whoknows.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, if Gab somes knocking, I will try to get a price for them. Considering they were hosted on MS Azure for a long time, it is hard to tell if they can fit at any price or if their all comers deal makes them dependent on cheap Fort Mead bandwidth
asciilifeform: i suspect that they can no longer afford the 'luxury' of pepsi.
BingoBoingo: Nah, they have to pick one of the two per Coke/Pepsi theorem
asciilifeform: all that remains is for ibm to merge with microshit-oogle
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, except for manufactering, because Obama said you can't do that in US-istan. Hence Lenovo getting IBMThink and Global Foundries getting all of IBM's fab work
asciilifeform: reminiscent of banks in the '08 times
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Weev and Anglin are still scraping by as best as they can https://dailystormer.name/rabbi-at-tree-of-life-cut-a-jew-babys-penis-off-in-2013/
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 17:18 weevlos: trinque: we are a media publication. our power and capital comes from the number of visitors we have to the site. we aim to transform through culture. if normal people cannot visit our site we are not accomplishing our goal
asciilifeform wishes the derps a smooth trip into the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756992 rubbish bin ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( on rare occasions -- in airplane just prior to take-off, it makes for convenient ad-hoc jail )
asciilifeform: the checkpoint queues are ~100% theatrical, when they want some d00d 'by name', typically pick him up at the check-in desk, long before he gets to the queue ☟︎
asciilifeform: or could go on, but there's too many of these and they aint particularly interesting to catalogue
asciilifeform: or, say, woman's purse, nobody ever searches, they poke inside with a ceremonial stick.
asciilifeform: there is, for instance, an Official cap on benjies, iirc 10k. but nobody ever counted'em in any usg airport i've been to, for so long as they fit in wallet
mircea_popescu: "wait, what do you mean we're just another spammer vying for your attention with all the others ?!?! but we don't tape papers to trees, we tape them to luggage insides!!! GOTTA COUNT FOR SOMETHING!"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they not simply 'say same thing', it's a form letter, not even rubber stamped but initial'd by some monkey
mircea_popescu: course, pointing out to them they all say the same thing... also throws wheels into gears or how did it went. as eminently evinced by http://trilema.com/2014/interacting-with-fiat-institutions-a-guide/#selection-331.0-331.255 and such
mircea_popescu: "oh, this piece of paper ? VERY!!!! different from what buskers/joefish/.whatever hand out. THIS ONE HANDED OUT BY BLUE USG!!! BIGGEST THING IN IMPORTANCE!"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a little tricky to ~boot~ from rsa dump, with bare hands, tho
mircea_popescu: well yes, but security theatre is specifically there to give some spam fliers the appearance of a loftiness they do not merit.
asciilifeform: e.g. the outer seals of the trunks with the 1u's, were popped, and the pieces helpfully taped to a 'this crate inspected for the motherland' receipt inside ( inner seals intact, lol )
mircea_popescu: more power to 'em. i always carried rsa'd dumps.
asciilifeform: 1 factor is that usa is mega-travel hub, so extensive derping with erry suitcase is impractical ( queue is slow enuff from the bush-era 'bright idea' of inspecting shoes ). reportedly in e.g. israel they try to do the 'copy erry disk' thing, there it is at least roughly practical in re traffic volume
mircea_popescu: see alf, your eternal "IT IS JUST A TRICK" works both ways lmao.
mircea_popescu: no, no, it's still for the plutonium-sarin.
asciilifeform: 'wtf, where is the plutonium in this suitcase, all derp has is buncha 1u's'
mircea_popescu: hey, let them grow tits come over.
asciilifeform: the concept of 'terror cell' that has 1-800 pnoje also, i suspect, throws the gears out of alignment. 'but where is the seekrit inner one, where they mix sarin', i expect, is the eternal itch.
mircea_popescu: women, right ? built themselves the femstate, magically don't understand why a) it dun work and b) nobody likes them still.
asciilifeform: from what i can tell, their entire concept of 'terror suspect' is a hardcoded enumeration of largely accidental/stylistic features, e.g. 'bearded camel fucker', 'weev', 'loud activist'
mircea_popescu: cuz the correlate of "french secret services accidentally sms terror suspect" is necessarily SOME KIND OF LIST. cuz that's how you build an empire, you make lists.
asciilifeform: ( tho theoretically even these get occasional sonderbehandlung 'pour encourager les autres' )
asciilifeform: ( i was speaking of the lul where they give you a subscription that opens the no-customs door on the way back ~into~ reich )
mircea_popescu: this is the other one. just about the only way to get on it is to be a potential "embarassment" in the sense of, "we X are following this guy, why are you Y letting him know".
asciilifeform subscribed, worx, to date, a+++
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily enuff, dun even need to be kronprinz, you pay fiddibux or i fughet how much it was
mircea_popescu: (yes, there is a do-not-disturb list, also, where they put people mostly for the above stated reason (it "wouldn't be fair" to put the inca elite on it, CORRUPTION!!!). as evidenced in these very logs, the process is just as trivially hackable as any other piece of imperial software -- asciilifeform gets the benefit of being a kronprinz without having as much as met this AllMother (and while bemoaning the whole time the unfai
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cuz they figure "you'll lead them to the terror cell" or some such nonsense.
deedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=67 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR Log Summary - 10/22/2018
asciilifeform: ( speaking here of proverbial, rather than the actual one, for some reason the actual border has ~0 interest in asciilifeform's cargo , to date, was almost disappointing. . 100x moar poking' and prodding' in orcistans this far, for asciilifeform )
asciilifeform: 'sure look at this box' 'go ahead, feel free to anally insert this card'
asciilifeform: btw i'll add, nobody with half a brain would cross idjit ameri-border with device + card. 1 or the other at a time.
mircea_popescu: all this will result in so much yadda, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: "color their bits", the 2019 version of 1970s "grab 'em by the pussy."
mircea_popescu: "make every bag a diplomatic bag" sorta thing.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the ~usecase is where dorks think they have a right to look into your bags because you are crossing a "border".
asciilifeform: specifically it, no. but, say, using in a room where windows without blackout tape , possible use case.
mircea_popescu: this is so not the usercase...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: idea being that one could enter pw even with other folx ( in e.g. restaurant ) looking on.
asciilifeform: ( usg's locks work this way, one of their few sane techs, 1980s vintage. thing starts each new char at random init value, too, so peeker dun see anyffin useful from the side )
mircea_popescu: takes too long. just type a pw, what.
mircea_popescu: can it take normal kbd then ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is true.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i considered it, yrs ago, but imho it has serious minuses in the field
mircea_popescu: item could have a certain artful oldschool-cool air about it, if the key was dips.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i was thinking dips
asciilifeform: ( iirc the prescribed key-wipe mechanism was a brick of dynamite, and the crew decided it wanted to live a bit moar )
asciilifeform: it's why usg lost its precious keyz when bestkorea took famous ship 'pueblo'
asciilifeform: ( you also wanna be able to unkey a box at a second's notice, and that aint happening with parallel key-as-switches, either )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if it's for cipher keys -- imho terrible idea to have ~all~ the key bits as physical switched in parallel, third party has no biznis being able to see the key simply by getting a peek at a keyed box with eyes
asciilifeform: actually scrach that, it's a terrible illustration. but i dun have a good one handy.
asciilifeform: ( the classic pdp-8, that is )
asciilifeform: i'll point out that nobody ever booted from '32x8 block' tho, if you recall folx booted from 8 (or 9 or whatever your byte bitness) + 'forward' button, word-at-a-time
asciilifeform: or are we talking spring-loaded thingies for reading punched card, or wat.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what sorta switches are you thinking of ? if it's ye olde DIPs, nobody cancelled'em, they're maybe a dime for a block of 8, and look today exactly as you remember then from yer 286
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here's a q : how feasible/costly would it be to have an array of tiny switches ? say 32x8 ?
asciilifeform: in today's variation, 'hey i found a dead mermaid' 'um, this is a bloated dolphin carcass' '...'
asciilifeform: sorta like the usual 'hey i found nessie' 'wouldja like to borrow my diving gear and thermal cam?' 'mmm nessie is invisible to thermal cam and what's a diving mask' '...'
asciilifeform: it went to where all cheap psyops lulz go when they die.
asciilifeform: observe that the gag vanished without a trace.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-27 18:32 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, don't you remember this thing ? some dood went off deep end, that there's a cvasi-magical virus in his usb stick. cca 2015 vintage logs
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-27#1866787 << for the record >> http://trilema.com/2013/badbios-aka-badlydonedamagecontrol/ ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: i saw |\n's snippet and thought 'loox familiar' and sure enuff it was in that 2017 piece.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: needs diddled bios + the crown jewels of intel/amd, to diddle microcode (intel's is rsa'd, amd's simply obscure/undoc'd) , and if yer diddling bios can make much simpler trap. but yes, would work
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not meritless, but not a weapon, toy store water gun, is the idea.
asciilifeform: theoretically the trigger for the ~actual~ boobytrap in x86 cpu would look very similar, yes
mircea_popescu: of course, microcode patches happen in the wild, so it's not entirely meritless.
asciilifeform: the given coad does nuffin on an off-the-shelf chip. it was an example meant to work with supplied microcode patch.
asciilifeform: |\n: if it was shown to you as 'omfg exploit!111', you've been duped.
|\n: well not really, i'm not too much 0day-aware kind of person as well